Psychologists Off the Clock

In today's world, society is more polarized than ever before. With people taking positions on issues related to identity, diversity, and justice, engaging in these conversations can seem like a daunting task. Yet, this is precisely what we need to do if we want to build a more just and equitable society. In this regard, our latest episode where Jill Stoddard interviews author David Glasgow is a must-listen. Glasgow's book, "Say the Right Thing: How to Talk About Identity, Diversity, and Justice" provides valuable insights on how to approach these sensitive topics in a way that fosters understanding, empathy, and positive change.The discussion delves into the controversial "cancel culture" and the need to show compassion and understanding towards those who make mistakes. Additionally, he emphasizes the importance of embracing a growth mindset and illustrates strategies to overcome conversational traps and navigate disagreements respectively. Take advantage of this opportunity to learn how to engage in challenging and compassionate conversations. Listen to the episode now!Listen and Learn:  How David’s background as a lawyer and personal struggle with belonging influenced his interest and career in social justice, equality, and inclusion. What makes conversations surrounding identity so difficult and why do we shy away from having them in today’s society? Why we should welcome the democratization of discomfort in social conversations.  Cancel culture - why we should use this as an opportunity for growth, not villainization.  How to respond to conversational traps.   What privilege is and is not? Why misunderstandings arise in identity conversations.  How to ‘right-size’ feedback in relation to privilege or bias.  Tips for respectfully disagreeing.  How to apologize effectively using the Four R’s.  Is cultural sensitivity helping or hindering the conversation around diversity and identity? Resources:  Learn more about David’s work as a diversity and inclusion specialist by visiting his website: https://www.david-glasgow.com/ Get your copy of Say the Right Thing: How to Talk about Identity, Diversity, and Justice at our bookshop: bookshop.org/a/30734/9781982181383 The Meltzer Center for Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging: law.nyu.edu/centers/belonging Follow David on Twitter (@dvglasgow)  Find out more about Deconstructing Karen referenced in the intro of this episode: deconstructingkaren.com Thanks for the Feedback: The Science and Art of Receiving Feedback Well  The Apology About David Glasgow David Glasgow is the executive director of the Meltzer Center for Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging and an adjunct professor at NYU School of Law. He has written for a range of publications including the Harvard Business Review, HuffPost, and Slate, and served as an Associate Director of the Public Interest Law Center at NYU School of Law. Please visit him at david-glasgow.com. Related Episodes:  76. Gender and Sexual Minorities with Aisling Leonard-Curtin and Matthew Skinta 96. Effective Conversations About Diversity with Anatasia Kim and Alicia del Prado 163. The Likeability Trap with Alicia Menendez 169. Microaggressions, Mental Health Disparities, and Racial Trauma with Monnica Williams 176. Fair Play with Eve Rodsky 185. Good Guys: Allies in the Workplace with Brad Johnson and David Smith 273. A More Just Future with Dolly Chugh 290. Shared Sisterhood: Collective Action for Racial and Gender Equity at Work with Tina Opie and Beth Livingston Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Join host Debbie Sorensen and former co-host and guest Diana Hill as they discuss the power of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and introduce their new resource: The ACT Daily Card Deck. Through personal anecdotes and examples, they emphasize the importance of living in the present moment and taking committed action that aligns with personal values. They also touch on the concepts of self-doubt, impermanence, and the role of emotions in our lives. With their creative exercises, like visiting their younger selves and the watering seeds exercise, they help listeners break down complex therapeutic concepts into everyday language that is easy to understand. Discover practical tools for leading a more fulfilling life that bridge the gap between theory and action. Listen now and learn how you too can benefit from ACT and become the master of your mind.Listen and Learn:  Diana and Debbie update us on what they’ve been up to and why they are joining forces for this special episode. The importance of making ACT more accessible in our daily lives.  Debbie and Diana demonstrate the six processes of ACT through examples of skills from their new ACT Daily Card Deck - from choosing thoughts, controlling your emotions, and the power of impermanence, to taking committed, value-based action, compassion, perspective taking, and mastering the art of being present. Resources:  Order your ACT Daily Card Deck: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781648481239 Go to drdianahill.com or her channels on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube (@drdianahill) to learn more Visit Debbie’s website http://www.drdebbiesorensen.com/ for more information and resources  Follow Debbie on Twitter (@debbiesorensen) or Instagram (@drdebbiesorensen) About Diana and Debbie Diana Hill, PhD is a clinical psychologist, international trainer and sought-out speaker on Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and compassion. Host of the podcast Your Life in Process and co-author of ACT Daily Journal, Diana works with organizations and individuals to develop psychological flexibility so that they can take wise action toward fulfilling and impactful lives. Integrating her over 20 years of meditation experience with yoga and psychological training, Diana blogs for Psychology Today, and guest teaches at InsightLA, Blue Spirit Costa Rica, PESI, Praxis Continuing Education, Yoga Soup and Insight Timer Meditation. Diana practices what she preaches in her daily life as a mom of two boys and bee guardian. Dr. Debbie Sorensen is a clinical psychologist with a private therapy practice in Denver. She specializes in providing individual Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) for adults experiencing burnout, chronic stress, and anxiety. Debbie has a Ph.D. in Psychology from Harvard University, and a bachelor’s degree from the University of Colorado, Boulder. She is a co-author of the book ACT Daily Journal: Get Unstuck and Live Fully with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and a co-founder and co-host the popular psychology podcast Psychologists Off The Clock. She speaks and gives workshops nationally and internationally to mental health providers, schools, and organizations. She loves living in her home state of Colorado and enjoying the Rocky Mountains with her husband, two daughters, and dog. Related Episodes:  77. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy with Jill Stoddard 195. ACT Daily with Diana Hill and Debbie Sorensen 237. Farewell to Diana Hill: Appreciations, Regrets, and Hopes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Let's raise a glass to Debbie, Jill, and Yael as they reach a milestone of 300 episodes on the fabulous Psychologists Off The Clock podcast! Can you believe it? Six-plus years of incredible conversations, phenomenal guests, mind-blowing ideas, and moments have uplifted us all.As they share their reflections on this journey, we get a glimpse of how POTC has transformed their understanding and application of psychology, impacted their lives, and connected them with listeners from all corners of the world. And can we stop to appreciate the wisdom, dedication, and passion they bring to this amazingly valuable show?We are so grateful to be part of this incredible community, and we know Debbie, Jill, and Yael share the same gratitude for all of us listeners who have supported them along the way.Listen and Learn:  Yael, Debbie, and Jill marvel at the profound impact the podcast has had on their personal and professional lives  The early beginnings of POTC From guests to co-hosts, Jill and Yael share their story Debbie, Jill, and Yael rave about their adoration for the POTC Book Club  Stories of positive changes POTC has brought to both listeners and co-hosts A look back at some of the most memorable and meaningful episodes The time Debbie invited Michelle Obama to the podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to this exciting bonus episode where POTC co-host Yael Schonbrun joins the incredible Child Psychologist, Cara Goodwin, for an empowering conversation exploring the artful science of working parenthood on Cara’s podcast, The Parenting Translator.Discover how to use parenting science to guide healthy choices and transform guilt into a powerful tool that aligns with your core values. You'll also gain insights into developing self-compassion and cultivating a growth mindset. Get ready to be inspired to take your parenting journey to the next level. Don't miss this incredible opportunity to learn and grow!Listen and Learn:  The concept of work-family enrichment The different pathways in which your competing roles as a working parent can feed each other How an exotic dancer’s experience negotiating with her own children helped her deal with her clients at work Is it possible to achieve the perfect work-family balance? Yael's tips for managing guilt as a working parent Intentional activities that can improve your life as a working parent Does working parenthood get easier as your children grow older? Resources:  To learn more about Yael, visit her website: http://yaelschonbrun.com/about/ Visit the Parenting Translator website: https://parentingtranslator.org Tune in to the Parenting Translator Podcast: https://parentingtranslator.org/podcast Follow Yael on Instagram @yaelschonbrun and Twitter @dryaelschonbrun Follow Cara on Instagram @parentingtranslator About Cara GoodwinCara Goodwin, is the founder of Parenting Translator, a mother to three young children, and a licensed psychologist with a PhD in child clinical psychology. Before she had her second child, she spent her days doing research in child psychology and neuroscience, assessing children for developmental problems, doing therapy with children of all ages, and training parents on how to use the most recent scientific findings to help their children.After taking some time off to be with my own children, she became desperate for an intellectual outlet so, on the brink of the COVID-19 pandemic and pregnant with a third child, she decided to start an Instagram account (@parentingtranslator) and website (www.parentingtranslator.com) with the purpose of taking recent scientific research and translating it into information that parents can use in their everyday lives. That IG account has taken off, with considerably over 100K followers, a newsletter, a podcast, and she’s also the author of a kids book titled, What to Do When You Feel Like Hitting: A No Hitting Book for Toddlers.Related Episodes: 87. Cribsheet with Emily Oster 245. Family Firm with Emily Oster 275. Work, Parent, Thrive with Yael Schonbrun Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Over the past few decades, the workplace has undergone tremendous changes. With the rise of technology and globalization, companies operate in a more complex and interconnected world. This has created new challenges for leaders, who must now navigate a wide range of cultural, technological, and economic factors to succeed.We are privileged to have Chris Shipley as our guest on this episode. As a Technology Analyst and Future of Work Strategist, she has honed her expertise in developing effective leadership strategies in today's rapidly evolving and unprecedented workplace. Her recent book, The Empathy Advantage: Leading the Empowered Workforce, provides valuable guidance for leaders at all levels. From how to cultivate empathy and emotional intelligence, build trust, and lead a diverse, and multi-generational workforce. Whether you're an entry-level manager or a seasoned executive, her insights are invaluable for anyone looking to improve their leadership skills. We're delighted to have her share her wisdom with us, and we're confident that you'll be left feeling empowered, inspired, and resilient. Listen and Learn:  Some of the significant shifts we're seeing in the workplace The relationship between psychology and leadership Why driving performance rather than productivity builds more economic value The psychological importance of autonomy and flexibility in the workplace  How to keep employees engaged and sustain retention in our 'new normal’ The unique challenges younger generations face when entering the workforce What can be done to help different generations work together better  The qualities of an empathic leader The changes needed to build a quality team Resources:  Learn more about Chris by visiting her website: https://www.cshipley.com/ Order your copy of The Empathy Advantage: Leading the Empowered Workforce: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781394155514 Follow Chris on Twitter and Instagram About Chris ShipleyChris Shipley has documented, influenced, and predicted the impact of technology on business and society for more than 30 years. As a journalist, she covered the tech industry for leading publishing companies. As an analyst, she identified innovative startups and gave them a stage to launch their market-making products. As a catalyst, she has advised hundreds of early-stage companies on positioning, business modeling, and innovation practices.Today, Chris focuses her work on the human and organizational challenges in the face of technology-and economically-driven disruption.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dysfunctional family relationships can be complicated and extremely challenging to navigate, but it's essential to remember that we have the power to change the narrative. Whether you’re dealing with overbearing or abusive parents, toxic siblings, or any other form of unhealthy behavior, it can be difficult to know how to break free from these patterns and create more positive connections.This is where our guest Nedra Tawwab, a renowned therapist, New York Times bestselling author, and relationship expert, comes in. We are thrilled to welcome Nedra back to Psychologist's Off the Clock to discuss her latest book, Drama Free. A Guide to Managing Unhealthy Family Relationships.With her relatable and practical guide, Nedra provides valuable tips on identifying and managing unhealthy family relationships that may be causing distress and turmoil in your life.Her expertise will empower you to take control of your life, move away from toxic behavior, and build stronger, healthier connections. Remember that you have the strength and resilience to overcome any obstacles. Don't let your past define your future!Listen and Learn:  Nedra introduces us to what unhealthy patterns of a dysfunctional family can look like  How to identify dysfunctional patterns within your own family  How childhood dysfunction can impact people and their adult relationships Why trust issues commonly result from dysfunctional family relationships The importance of boundary setting, especially for those who come from dysfunctional environments The line between enabling versus helping The most common obstacles to making changes within dysfunctional relationships Strategies for boundary setting Nedra’s advice for people handling the guilt and the grief that comes with change within a family system  How to handle pushback when dealing with unhealthy patterns of behavior  Resources:  Visit Nedra’s website: https://www.nedratawwab.com Order your copy of Nedra’s book Drama Free: A Guide to Managing Unhealthy Family Relationships: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780593539279 Learn more about Group Therapy practice Kaleidoscope Counseling: https://www.kaleidoscopecounselingpllc.com/ Follow Nedra on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter - @nedratawwab About Nedra Glover Tawwab Nedra Glover Tawwab, MSW, LCSW, is a New York Times best-selling author, licensed therapist, and sought-after relationship expert. She has practiced relationship therapy for 15 years and is the founder and owner of the group therapy practice, Kaleidoscope Counseling. Every day she helps people create healthy relationships by teaching them how to implement boundaries. Her philosophy is that a lack of boundaries and assertiveness underlie most relationship issues, and her gift is helping people create healthy relationships with themselves and others. Nedra earned her undergraduate and graduate degrees from Wayne State University in Detroit, MI. She has additional certifications in working with families and couples and in perinatal mood and anxiety disorders, plus advanced training for counseling adults who've experienced childhood emotional neglect. Nedra has appeared as an expert on Red Table Talk, The Breakfast Club, Good Morning America, and CBS Morning Show to name a few. Her work has been highlighted in The New York Times, The Guardian, and Vice and has appeared on numerous podcasts, including Good Life Project, Sofia with an F, and Therapy For Black Girls. She runs a popular Instagram account where she shares practices, tools, and reflections for mental health and hosts weekly Q&As. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

If you find yourself struggling to connect with the adolescents in your life, don't worry, you're not alone! The truth is, building relationships with teens and young adults can be challenging, but with the right mindset and approach, anything is possible.Get ready to be inspired by our guest, Emily Kline, a Harvard-trained clinical psychologist who has written a practical and research-backed guide called "The School of Hard Talks: How to Have Real Conversations with Your (Almost Grown) Kids". Whether you're a parent, teacher, mentor, or just someone who wants to connect better with the younger generation, this book is a must-read for improving communication and building stronger relationships with young people. So, let's dive in and explore some of the key insights and tips that Emily has to offer.Listen and Learn:  The guiding principles of motivational interviewing for adolescents  How is motivational interviewing helpful What we know about expressed emotion and how it can empower parents Why adolescents are often more willing to follow the advice and direction of supportive parents than those who demand obedience Emily breaks down the foundational skills needed for hard conversations with young adults using clinical scenarios Resources:  Visit Emily’s Website: www.dremilykline.com Order your copy of The School of Hard Talks: How to Have Real Conversations with Your (Almost Grown) Kids: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781632174703 Follow Emily on Instagram and TikTok @learnaboutmilo Psychology Today Blog:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-school-of-hard-talks A Minor Revolution: How Prioritizing Kids Benefits Us All by Adam Benforado: https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-minor-revolution-how-prioritizing-kids-benefits-us-all-adam-benforado/18501375?ean=9781984823045 Influence is Your Superpower by Zoe Chace: https://bookshop.org/p/books/influence-is-your-superpower-the-science-of-winning-hearts-sparking-change-and-making-good-things-happen-zoe-chance/16987804?ean=9781984854339 About Emily Kline:Emily Kline is a clinical psychologist and writer who has held faculty positions in psychiatry at Boston University and at Harvard Medical School. She created a simple motivational interviewing curriculum for family caregivers and The School of Hard Talks Online free e-course, and her book, The School of Hard Talks: How to Have Real Conversations with You Almost Grown Kids is now available. Emily lives with her husband and children who graciously beta-test her experiments in family communication and a dog who can’t be reasoned with at all.Related Episodes: Episode 66. Helping People Change Using Motivational Interviewing with Nadine Mastroleo Episode 78. The Self-Driven Child with William Stixrud Episode 135. Power of Empathy and Motivational Interviewing with Stephen Rollnick Episode 205. Thrivers with Michele Borba Episode 255. Influence is Your Superpower with Zoe Chance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When it comes to money and love, the two are inextricably linked. Whether it's choosing where to settle down, starting a family, or taking that new job opportunity, our financial situation and our relationships always come into play.Thankfully, with the expert guidance of our guest Abby Davisson who co-authored the brilliant resource, "Money and Love: An Intelligent Roadmap for Life's Biggest Decisions" we can navigate these tricky waters with grace, ease, and confidence. Using Abby’s 5Cs framework, she offers guidance on how to strike a harmonious balance between love and money. With research-based insights and real-life examples, we learn how to holistically make value-driven decisions that are both financially sound and emotionally fulfilling. So let's dive in and discover the easy and practical steps to make strategic decisions that yield better results, without having to compromise your professional or personal life. Listen and Learn: How money and love are so intimately intertwined and why this was the catalyst for the book Abby co-authored with Myra Strober  The 5Cs framework for big making decisions that involve money and love What is mimetic desire and why you should be aware of this  The importance of identifying your core values in helping you to align your decisions with those values Examples of when it is a good idea to get input on decisions you are making and when is it not  How to fairly decide who does what in a relationship using the 5Cs as a guide  Resources: Visit Abby’s website for more information: https://www.abbydavisson.com Purchase Abby’s book, "Money and Love: An Intelligent Roadmap for Life's Biggest Decisions": https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780063117518 About Abby Davisson Abby Davisson is a social innovation leader and career development expert. Most recently, she spent nine years at global retailer Gap Inc., where she served as president of the Gap Foundation and co-founded the company’s employee resource group for parents. You can find more information on her book “Money and Love: An Intelligent Roadmap for Life’s Biggest Decisions” at https://www.moneylovebook.com. Press information is available at https://www.moneylovebook.com/press-kit.Related Episodes:  142. FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) with Patrick McGinnis 176. Fair Play with Eve Rodsky 206. Fair Play Part 2 with Eve Rodsky 217. Redefining Rich with Shannon Hayes 238. Values During Times of Transition (with Us) 249. How to Be Single & Happy with Jenny Taitz 291. Finding Freedom from Regret with Robert Leah Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When it comes to self-help, it's important to be cautious of information that seems too good to be true. Especially, in today's world of digital wellness influencers where there is a lot of misinformation out there that could cause you more harm than good. Subsequently, it's essential to thoroughly research products and services before making any decisions or commitments. To raise awareness about this issue, we (Debbie, Jill, and Yael) got together to co-host an episode dedicated to this very important conversation. We also invited Pooja Lakshmin, a board-certified psychiatrist and author of the book ‘Real Self-Care: A Transformative Program for Redefining Wellness’ to discuss the nuances of pseudoscience and what it means to practice real self-care. Expect evidence-based self-care methods, in addition to tips on how to do your due diligence as a consumer. Listen and Learn: What led Pooja to make some pretty drastic decisions in her own quest for self-care The differentiators between faux self-care and real self-care The idea of using ‘pauses’ when making decisions and boundary setting  Pseudoscience and the challenges it poses to the field of psychology Examples of scientists behaving badly  Red flags for identifying faux self-care Suggestibility: we can be easily influenced in ways that are problematic Resources: Guest Learn more about Pooja and her work as a psychiatrist, author, founder, and speaker: https://www.poojalakshmin.com Order your copy of Real Self-Care: A Transformative Program for Redefining Wellness (Crystals, Cleanses, and Bubble Baths Not Included): https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780593489727 ArticlesControversy Over Ego Depletion/Decision-FatigueBooks Quick Fix: Why Fad Psychology Can’t Cure Our Social Ills by Jesse Singal Gospel of Wellness: Gyms, Gurus, Goops, and the False Promise of Self-Care by Rina Raphael American Detox: The Myth of Wellness and How We Can Truly Heal by Kerri Kelly  Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don’t Know by Adam Grant Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion by Paul Bloom Podcasts Maintenance Phase  Conspirituality The Daily: Women Have Been Misled About Menopause About Pooja LakshminPooja Lakshmin is a psychiatrist, New York Times contributor, an assistant professor at George Washington University, and a leading voice at the intersection of mental health and gender with a focus on helping individuals escape the tyranny of self-care. In 2020, she founded Gemma, a physician-led women’s mental health platform centering on impact and equity. She also maintains a private practice where she treats women struggling with burnout and perfectionism, as well as clinical conditions like depression and anxiety. Her new book which we are here to discuss, Real Self-Care: A Transformative Program for Redefining Wellness (Crystals, Cleanses, and Bubble Baths not Included) is out now.Related Episodes: 65. Self-Care, Kindness, and Living Well with Kelly Wilson 105. The Self-Care Prescription with Robyn Gobin 113. Self-Compassion for Parents with Susan Pollak 201. Fierce Compassion with Kristin Neff 262. Hope and Values in Dark Times with Us Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Let's talk about the magic that is improvisation, or what us cool kids call "improv." It's an art form that's all about unleashing your creativity and performing without a script or plan. Sure, you may have heard of it as a side-splitting comedy act, but improv goes a lot deeper than that. From acting to business to mental health, improv skills can be applied in various areas of life. Enter Kelly Leonard, the VP of Creative Strategy, Innovation, and Business Development at the infamous Second City in Chicago. Kelly, who over the decades has produced hundreds of original revues with comedians such as Stephen Colbert, Tina Fey, and Seth Meyers (to name a few) has a unique understanding of behavioral science through the lens of improv.  Regaling us with lessons and stories from his career and book, ‘Yes And’, we learn how to utilize improv to help us adapt, empathize, communicate, trust, and collaborate better. We are reminded that saying ‘yes’ to new ideas and experiences sparks creativity and can lead to beneficial outcomes. From deepening our relationships with others by practicing active listening and learning to accept and appreciate new ideas, regardless of their origin. It also teaches us to think on our feet and work together to create innovative solutions to problems.Listen and Learn:  How Stephen Colbert came to write a blurb for Kelly’s book, Yes, and: How Improvisation Reverses No, But Thinking and Improves Creativity and Collaboration Why so many successful comedy performers have an improv background  How improv skills can help us to empathize, communicate and collaborate The idea of the ‘Yes And’ exercise  Why Kelly prefers to use the word ensemble vs. team  Improv's positive impact on caregiver burden and depression An introduction to the ‘I Am Somebody Who’ exercise Why adopting a Yes And mentality helps create a psychologically safe environment How improv can be applied in therapy  If improv were an animal, what animal would it be?  What’s next for Kelly’s work in science and the arts  Resources:  Learn more about Kelly: https://www.secondcity.com/people/kelly-leonard+ Get your copy of Yes, And: How Improvisation Reverses No, But Thinking and Improves Creativity and Collaboration: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780062248541 Check out The Second City website: https://www.secondcity.com/ Listen to Kelly’s podcast, Getting to Yes And: https://www.secondcityworks.com/podcast About Kelly Leonard Kelly Leonard is the Executive Director of Learning and Applied Improvisation at Second City Works. His book, “Yes, And: Lessons from The Second City” was released to critical acclaim in 2015 by HarperCollins and was praised by Michael Lewis in Vanity Fair who called it “...an excellent guide to the lessons that have bubbled up in Second City’s improv workshops.” Kelly is a popular speaker on the power of improvisation to transform people’s lives. He has presented at The Aspen Ideas Festival, The Code Conference,TEDx Broadway, Chicago Ideas Festival, The Stanford Graduate School of Business and for companies such as Coca Cola, Microsoft, Twitter, Memorial Sloan Kettering and DDB Worldwide. Kelly co-created an initiative with the Center for Decision Research at the Booth School at the University of Chicago, The Second Science Project, that looks at behavioral science through the lens of improvisation. He also hosts the podcast, “Getting to Yes, And,” for Second City Works and WGN radio that features interviews with academics, authors and leaders such as Brene Brown, Adam Grant, Michael Lewis, Lindy West, Ash Carter and Amy Edmondson.For over twenty years, Kelly oversaw Second City’s live theatrical divisions where he helped generate original productions with such talent as Tina Fey, Stephen Colbert, Amy Poehler, Seth Meyers, Steve Carell, Keegan Michael Key, Amy Sedaris, Adam McKay and others. In 2019, Arts Alliance Illinois awarded Kelly and his wife Anne Libera with their Creative Voice Award.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.