

Subscription Stories: True Tales from the Trenches
Robbie Kellman Baxter
Subscription models are crazy powerful. Savvy small companies can easily deploy them to knock huge Goliaths off kilter. We’ve seen it in entertainment, software, hardware, news, retail, hospitality—the list goes on. In her podcast series, Robbie Kellman Baxter interviews the leaders of this revolution about how they’re using subscription pricing and membership models to redefine the biggest industries and generate predictable recurring revenue along the way.
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Jul 23, 2025 • 40min
Launching and Scaling Subscriptions as a Solopreneur with Mike Morrison of Membership Geeks
Many of my guests on the podcast have built and skilled large membership and subscription businesses with big teams of specialists and sophisticated software to support their efforts.
But what if the team is just you?
Mike Morrison, launched the Membership Geeks Podcast 9 years ago to help solopreneurs build online membership businesses. You can drive a meaningful subscription without a team and totally online, and that's what Mike teaches at his Membership Academy.
In our conversation, we talk about how the membership economy has evolved since we first met 9 years ago, some of the elements that make one membership more successful than another, and what it takes to scale when you're working alone.
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Jul 9, 2025 • 40min
Subscription Intrapreneurship with Bosch BlueMovement’s E-Lin Tan
What do you do when powerful tailwinds change to headwinds as you're growing your business?Many Membership Economy businesses have struggled to keep up momentum in the past few years as the golden era of growth has evolved to a bottom line era.
Today's guest, E-Lin Tan, took the helm at BlueMovement offering subscriptions to Bosch Appliances in Europe during the bottom line era.
In our conversation, we discussed how they balance circularity and sustainability with profitability.
Listen to learn how they've built support across the organization, developed the right culture, and continued to evolve the offering to respond to changing customer needs.
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Jun 25, 2025 • 32min
Is the Future of Subscriptions Circular? A Conversation with Patrick Hypscher of Circularity.fm
Patrick Hypscher, a consultant and the voice behind Circularity.fm, dives into the intersection of sustainability and subscription models. He shares insights on circular economies and the advantages of Product-as-a-Service (PaaS). Discover why Europe leads the charge in this field and how companies can achieve both success and ethical responsibility. Patrick also tackles the complexities of transitioning to subscription models, revealing hidden challenges and the unexpected rebound effect in consumer behavior.

Jun 4, 2025 • 33min
How Zumba Balances Instructor and Consumer Subscriptions with Yael Dornbusch, Zumba’s Chief Subscription Officer
Zumba is a phenomenon. Since its founding in 2001, the addictive fitness dance program with a Latin beat has taken the world by storm.
As of 2022, the company claimed 15 million people taking Zumba classes weekly at 200,000 locations in over 180 countries. At its core is the Zumba Instructor Network, a monthly membership program created to give instructors ongoing support and tools for success. It includes an unlimited, never-expiring teaching license, as well as monthly music and choreography marketing tools and access to the community.
Today's guest, Yael Dornbusch is the Chief Subscription Officer at Zumba, responsible for managing what she calls a prosumer subscription.
In our conversation, she explains why Zumba built their first subscription around instructors rather than students, why they launched a second subscription specifically for students, and the principles they use to balance the needs of these two constituencies.
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May 21, 2025 • 33min
The One Medical Story with Dr. Joseph Michelli, the Author of All Business is Personal: One Medical’s Human-Centered, Technology-Powered Approach to Customer Engagement
If you've ever had to wait for your doctor first in the waiting room and then in the examining room, or struggled to get an appointment or had trouble getting a prescription filled while on the road, you know why primary care in the United States is in such desperate need of disruption.
One Medical has been transforming primary care through the power of membership and customer centricity since 2007. In 2023, One Medical was acquired by Amazon for nearly $4 billion. Dr. Joseph Michelli has written a well-researched book on One Medical's journey and what enabled such rapid growth and such strong customer engagement. The book is called “All Business is Personal: One Medical Human-Centered, Technology-Powered Approach to Customer Engagement.”
In today's conversation, Joseph and I talk about how the company reimagined every step of the patient journey, One Medical's three key success drivers, and what the future of healthcare might hold.
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May 7, 2025 • 40min
Building Evergreen Companies with Dave Whorton, Founder of the Tugboat Institute and Author of Another Way: Building Companies that Last…and Last…and Last
Something I've noticed over the years is that there's a natural membership economy mindset among many family-owned businesses and organizations, not on the venture-backed IPO acquisition path. Companies that aren't on a tight timeline to an exit have the ability to invest in long-term, trusted relationships with customers and with employees.
After a career as both a founder of multiple successful companies and a venture investor with Kleiner Perkins, Dave Whorton decided he wanted to work specifically with what he came to call Evergreen leaders, the ones who combined sound business principles, extraordinary purpose, and a desire to share their success with their employees.
His Tugboat Institute researches these organizations to identify best practices, and then he brings together these leaders to teach and support one another. Now, he's written a book, “Another Way: Building Companies That Last…and Last…and Last”. It's a playbook for entrepreneurs seeking an alternate path to success.
In my conversation with Dave, we discussed how venture capital has changed the face of entrepreneurship, what it means for founders, the 7Ps that are the guiding principles of Evergreen companies, and the two key constituencies that matter most to your organization's long-term success.
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Mar 5, 2025 • 41min
A Behind-The-Scenes Look at Adobe’s Journey to Subscriptions with Mark Garrett, the CFO Who Architected That Transformation
In today's episode, we're exploring one of the most ambitious and successful business model transformations in modern corporate history, the shift of Adobe from a traditional software company selling packaged products to a thriving subscription powerhouse. And who better to walk us through this journey than Mark Garrett, Adobe's former chief financial officer and the architect behind this transition?
When Adobe first announced its move to a subscription-based model in 2011, there was plenty of skepticism. Analysts questioned the financial impact, customers worried about cost increases, and internal teams faced the daunting task of restructuring their entire go-to-market strategy. Mark and his team remained steadfast, not just in their belief that subscriptions would create more predictable revenue, but also that they would allow Adobe to serve customers better with continuous innovation and improved accessibility.
Since those early days, Adobe's market cap has skyrocketed from around 16 billion before the transition to well over 200 billion, proving just how powerful a well-executed subscription strategy can be.
In this conversation, Mark shares the behind-the-scenes story of how Adobe made the leap as a public company, maintaining exceptional financial performance while also enhancing customer satisfaction. We'll discuss the key strategies behind their transition, the biggest challenges they faced both internally and externally, and what other companies can learn from Adobe's playbook. If you've ever wondered how to execute a high-stakes business model transformation, how to balance Wall Street expectations with long-term customer loyalty, or how to design a subscription offering that truly delivers ongoing value, this episode is for you.
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Feb 19, 2025 • 40min
How to Build a Strong Subscription Business While Maintaining a Compelling Free Tier with Chess.com CRO Adam Mayer
Adam Mayer, SVP of Monetization at Chess.com, shares his wealth of knowledge on building a successful subscription model without losing the charm of a compelling free tier. He discusses the delicate balance between providing free value and converting users to paid subscribers. Adam also reflects on his unique journey from entertainment to chess, shedding light on the importance of community engagement and strategic innovation in the subscription landscape. Tune in for insights on fostering long-term loyalty and thriving in a competitive market!

Feb 5, 2025 • 40min
Controversial Topics in Subscription Pricing with Mather CEO Matt Lindsay
Matt Lindsay, founding partner of Mather Economics and a subscription pricing whiz, dives into the complexities of subscription pricing. He discusses the tightrope of balancing revenue and customer satisfaction. Key topics include the impact of introductory offers, strategies for effective price increases, and handling subscriber cancellations. Lindsay also emphasizes the importance of transparency in pricing and the role of consumer behavior in subscription dynamics. His insights offer invaluable guidance for anyone navigating the tricky waters of subscription models.

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Jan 22, 2025 • 40min
2025 Trends in Subscription Businesses with Recurly CEO Joe Rohrlich
In this discussion, Joe Rohrlich, CEO of Recurly and a leader in subscription management, shares his expertise on the future of subscription businesses leading to 2025. He highlights crucial trends like the shift toward membership models and the strategies successful companies use to build lasting relationships with customers. Joe delves into the importance of data-driven decisions for optimizing revenue recovery and adapting to evolving consumer preferences, while also emphasizing agility and technology in scaling businesses.