The Rainmaking Podcast

Scott Love
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Sep 12, 2024 • 27min

TRP 214: Selling in a Post-Trust World with Larry Levine

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Larry Levine, author of Selling in a Post-Trust World, about how professionals can build authentic relationships and establish trust in an increasingly skeptical marketplace. Larry explains that trust is the currency of sales and business development, yet many professionals struggle to earn it due to broken promises, inconsistent follow-through, and transactional approaches. He introduces a structured formula for building trust, emphasizing that successful rainmakers prioritize authenticity, meaningful value, and disciplined habits to create long-term client relationships.Key topics include the four pillars of the trust formula: Authentic Relationships (AR), Meaningful Value (MV), Inspirational Experiences (IE), and Disciplined Habits (DH). Larry discusses how professionals can build deeper relationships by understanding client goals, adding unique business insights, and showing consistency over time. He also shares how creating inspirational client experiences—not just delivering services—helps differentiate professionals in competitive industries. Additionally, Larry provides powerful questions professionals can ask clients to uncover deeper needs and build long-term loyalty. This episode delivers practical, high-impact strategies for professionals looking to improve trust, deepen client engagement, and elevate their rainmaking approach.Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/----------------------------------------Larry Levine is an author, podcast host, and speaker for organizations who wish to grow their sales revenue. You can listen to his podcast https://www.sellingfromtheheartpodcast.com/ and connect with him on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larrylevine1992/----------------------------------------This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/Links:https://sellinginaposttrustworld.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Sep 5, 2024 • 30min

TRP 213: The Anatomy of a Rainmaking Organization with Jacob Parks

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Jacob Parks, business strategist and author of Never Say Sell, about the anatomy of a rainmaking organization and how firms can build a culture of business development excellence. Jacob explains that while many professional service firms rely on a few standout rainmakers, the most successful organizations embed business development into their structure, incentives, and culture. He emphasizes that firms should shift from focusing on individual sales stars to creating a scalable system where every partner and leader contributes to growth.Key topics include the biggest institutional barriers to rainmaking success, such as misaligned incentives, lack of cross-selling between partners, and underutilized technology tools like CRM systems. Jacob shares strategies for breaking down silos within firms, improving collaboration between practice areas, and leveraging AI and automation to streamline business development. He also discusses the importance of training new partners in sales and networking skills, how to use rainmaker panels to transfer knowledge, and why measuring and incentivizing business development contributions can drive firm-wide success. This episode provides practical insights for firm leaders looking to improve collaboration, increase revenue, and create a sustainable rainmaking culture.Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/----------------------------------------President of Strategy for PIE, Jacob Parks is the author of Never Say Sell, a guide to how professional firms expand their business with key clients. His expertise includes partner remuneration and incentive plans, account planning, trigger of engagement, and how to expand a brand to include new service offerings, new industries, or new geographies. He has led client teams for McKinsey, Accenture, and KPMG among others. He leads The PIE Professional Services CMO and CGO network and is a graduate of Gonzaga’s MBA program, having previously taught undergraduate business students.----------------------------------------This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/Links:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-parks/https://www.profitableideas.com/about/meet-our-team/jacob-parks/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Sep 1, 2024 • 35min

TRP 212: Give to Grow with Mo Bunnell

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Mo Bunnell, author of Give to Grow, about how investing in relationships is the key to long-term business success. Mo explains that successful rainmakers don’t just focus on closing deals—they prioritize helping others, building trust, and creating genuine connections. He shares insights from his research on high-performing business developers, emphasizing that the top rainmakers are not just a little better—they are often 10 times more successful than the average professional because they consistently take action and focus on adding value to others.Key topics include the five biggest mental barriers that hold professionals back—such as fear of rejection, perfectionism, and feeling too busy—and how to overcome them by shifting mindset and taking consistent action. Mo introduces the “It’s always your move” principle, which encourages professionals to proactively add value and maintain client relationships rather than waiting for opportunities to come to them. He also shares the four gifts of relationship-building: attention, understanding, wisdom, and clarity, explaining how professionals can apply these principles in business development to strengthen trust and increase referrals. This episode provides a practical roadmap for professionals looking to enhance their networking, business development, and client engagement strategies.Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/----------------------------------------Mo Bunnell helps complex organizations grow by scaling business development skills across their organizations and creating a growth-oriented culture. He is the author of Give to Grow, The Snowball System, the host of the podcast Real Relationships Real Revenue, and the founder of Bunnell Idea Group (BIG), who has trained tens of thousands of professionals. BIG’s clients have used Mo and his team’s GrowBIG® training to give their experts a system for growth that creates deep relationships, gives a comprehensive business development framework, and dare we say, is fun to use. Mo started his career as an expert himself, passing all the actuarial exams to earn their highest designation: Fellow of the Society of Actuaries. Today, Mo enjoys working with hundreds of clients including some of the largest, most prestigious service-based organizations. Mo and his wife of over 30 years, Becky, enjoy spending time with their friends and two adult daughters. Outside of work he enjoys working out, backpacking, and playing ultimate frisbee at the national and world levels. Becky and Mo live in Atlanta Georgia with their four horses, two cats, dog, bird and miniature donkey, Louie Hamilton.Mo Bunnell offered seats to his seminar to the first five who request them. You can email Scott Love about this and he will forward your request to Mo Bunnell's team.  scott@attorneysearchgroup.com----------------------------------------This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/Links:https://www.linkedin.com/in/mobunnell/https://bunnellideagroup.comhttps://bunnellideagroup.com/givetogrow/www.givetogrow.info Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Aug 22, 2024 • 25min

TRP 211: Well Being for Rainmakers with Kathy Richardson

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Kathy Richardson, legal recruiter and well-being advocate, about the importance of mental, emotional, and physical well-being for rainmakers. Kathy shares insights from her experience working with lawyers and professionals who face intense pressure to perform, explaining that success in business development is directly tied to personal well-being. She emphasizes that professionals often neglect their health—mentally, emotionally, physically, financially, and even spiritually—while chasing career success, leading to burnout, dissatisfaction, and decreased effectiveness.Key topics include how well-being affects business performance, the dangers of "grind culture" and overwork, and the signs professionals should watch for that indicate their well-being is suffering—such as dreading Monday mornings or feeling constantly drained. Kathy shares practical self-care strategies, including daily meditation, mindful work environments, and maintaining strong social connections to create balance. She also discusses how professionals can align their career choices with their personal happiness and how firms can support inclusion, belonging, and well-being initiatives. Additionally, Kathy introduces her lawyer wellness retreats, which combine yoga, meditation, and career coaching to help professionals reset and refocus. This episode provides actionable steps for professionals looking to protect their well-being while excelling in business development.Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/----------------------------------------Kathryn Holt Richardson is an award-winning legal recruiter and Founder of HR Legal Search, a national search firm based in Austin recognized by Texas Lawyer as a Texas Best Legal Recruiting Firm since 2011. Kathy specializes in placing law firm partners and groups. She also supports office openings and mergers. She has successfully placed hundreds of lawyers across the country including NYC, DC, LA, Chicago and the Bay area. She is also successfully retained by companies to find in-house talent at every level including General Counsel.----------------------------------------This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathryn-holt-richardson-6111a62/https://www.hrlegalsearch.com/about/kathryn-richardson/https://www.hrlegalsearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Fall2021-Featured-Article-Kathy-Richardson.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Aug 15, 2024 • 16min

TRP 210: Scott Love On Time Management

In this solo episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love shares essential strategies for time management and vision-setting to help professionals maximize productivity and stay aligned with their long-term goals. Scott emphasizes that time cannot be managed—only our habits, focus, and decisions can be controlled. He explains that the key to high performance is clarity of purpose, building strong habits, and eliminating distractions that pull professionals away from their most important work. Through personal experiences and proven techniques, Scott provides a framework for taking ownership of one’s time and career trajectory.Key topics include the importance of defining core values and professional vision, how to establish daily rituals that drive consistent performance, and the power of tracking time to identify and eliminate inefficiencies. Scott shares practical exercises, such as writing down a clear career vision, using daily habit tracking to optimize productivity, and asking the crucial question: “Is this bringing me closer to or further away from my goals?” He also discusses overcoming hesitation in business development, the psychological benefits of setting closing rituals to disconnect from work, and how small habit changes can create exponential improvements in personal and professional growth. This episode provides actionable steps for professionals looking to improve focus, enhance efficiency, and create a long-term success strategy.Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/----------------------------------------Scott Love is a legal recruiter who recruits private equity attorneys for global law firms and facilitates law firm mergers. He also is an author and speaker on client development.----------------------------------------This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Aug 8, 2024 • 30min

TRP 209: Lifetime Value of a Client with Jim Packard

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Jim Packard, client development expert and co-author of The Consistency Chain, about the lifetime value of a client and how professionals can nurture relationships for long-term success. Jim shares insights from decades of experience in business development, emphasizing that most professionals focus too much on acquiring new clients rather than strengthening existing relationships. He explains that consistent, meaningful contact with clients is key to retention and referrals, as failing to nurture relationships leads to lost business.Key topics include why businesses should reverse the typical 80/20 rule—spending more time nurturing existing clients rather than chasing new ones, how every month without client contact results in a 10% loss of influence, and the importance of staying top-of-mind through thoughtful, consistent engagement. Jim shares practical strategies for client retention, such as sending personalized greeting cards, making check-in calls, and leveraging small, thoughtful gifts to maintain strong relationships. He also discusses common pitfalls professionals face, such as taking client loyalty for granted and failing to express appreciation. This episode provides actionable steps for professionals looking to maximize client lifetime value, strengthen their network, and increase referrals through consistent engagement.Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/----------------------------------------Jim Packard is the poster child for a life of consistent action. Whether it was being the top-producing paper boy or turning a $500 investment into a $17 million-a-year business, he excelled every day, all day for years. Married for more than four decades, father of two highly successful sons, Jim's consistency extended to his personal life as well. Recognized for his work in the community, he was Jaycees' Man of the Year for both his city and his state.After selling his business to a Fortune 500 company and taking "early retirement", Jim just increased his entrepreneurial interests. He shepherded inventions through development and appeared on QVC over 25 times. Through that venue alone, he sold over a million dollars of a single product. In the area of network marketing, he was a distributor of the year in two different companies, led thousands of distributors and customers, and was always a top 10 money earner.----------------------------------------This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/Links:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-packard-b6435535/ConsistencyChain.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Aug 1, 2024 • 22min

TRP 208: Principle-centered Rainmaking with Chris Batz

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Chris Batz, legal recruiter and host of The Future is Bright podcast, about principle-centered rainmaking and the mindset shifts required to achieve lasting business development success. Chris shares insights from his career in legal recruiting, emphasizing that long-term success in rainmaking isn’t about quick wins—it’s about patience, self-awareness, and strategic relationship-building. He explains that rainmakers must focus on compounding their efforts over time, rather than expecting immediate results, and that true success comes from a mindset of continuous learning, resilience, and generosity.Key topics include the power of patience in business development, how to measure success beyond financial goals, and the role of self-awareness in professional growth. Chris shares his philosophy on lifetime client value, emphasizing that professionals should focus on long-term relationships rather than short-term gains. He also discusses overcoming fear in business, explaining that stepping outside one’s comfort zone and embracing challenges leads to exponential growth. Additionally, he highlights the importance of personal development habits, such as exercise, sleep, and reflection, in sustaining high performance. This episode provides a powerful roadmap for professionals looking to cultivate the right mindset, stay the course, and build meaningful, long-lasting client relationships.Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/----------------------------------------Chris Batz is a business development professional & entrepreneur in the executive search industry with a background in public accounting and a mind for big picture strategic thinking & marketing. He is a connector and catalyst for client’s goals.----------------------------------------This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/Links:https://chrisbatz.com/podcast/https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbatz/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Jul 25, 2024 • 13min

TRP 207: Five Pitfalls to Avoid in Rainmaking with Scott Love

In this solo episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love shares the five biggest pitfalls that hold business developers back and how professionals can avoid them to achieve greater success. Drawing from his experience recruiting rainmakers and interviewing over 200 business development experts, Scott explains that the key to winning more business isn’t just about effort—it’s about having the right strategy, mindset, and consistency. He provides a roadmap for professionals looking to refine their approach, stand out in a competitive marketplace, and build stronger client relationships.Key topics include the five most common pitfalls in business development: 1) Not effectively communicating their value proposition, where professionals fail to articulate what makes them distinct and valuable; 2) Not paying attention to industry trends, leading to missed opportunities for innovation; 3) Not taking consistent action on new business opportunities, which causes stagnation in client acquisition; 4) Not developing thought leadership, resulting in weaker credibility and fewer inbound leads; and 5) Not asking for referrals, leaving business growth to chance rather than strategy. Scott also discusses how professionals can build momentum in their client development efforts, create a more defined niche, and implement simple systems to attract high-value opportunities. This episode delivers practical, actionable strategies for professionals looking to refine their rainmaking approach and consistently bring in new business.Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/----------------------------------------Scott Love is a legal recruiter who recruits private equity attorneys for global law firms and facilitates law firm mergers. He also is an author and speaker on client development.----------------------------------------This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Jul 18, 2024 • 26min

TRP 206: How Pursuing Profits Hurts Your Leadership and Influence with Michael Goss

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Michael Goss, business executive and leadership coach, about how prioritizing profits over purpose can hurt leadership and influence. Michael explains that while profits are essential for any business, they should never be the sole focus—instead, professionals should concentrate on service, relationships, and long-term value creation. He highlights that true influence in business comes from genuine leadership, integrity, and a commitment to helping others succeed, rather than simply closing deals or maximizing short-term gains.Key topics include how shifting from a transactional to a relational approach builds lasting influence, the importance of developing trust and credibility in client interactions, and how leaders can inspire teams by aligning work with a deeper purpose. Michael shares insights on how leaders can reframe success by focusing on impact rather than just revenue, and how professionals can enhance their decision-making by being more attuned to client needs rather than solely chasing the sale. He also discusses the risks of short-term thinking in leadership, the role of authenticity in professional growth, and how influence is built through consistent value delivery, not just authority. This episode provides a powerful perspective on leadership, influence, and business growth that challenges conventional sales wisdom.Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/----------------------------------------Michael Goss is a dynamic and accomplished businessman, a devoted father of four teenagers, and the husband of an incredible woman. With an impressive track record of building and selling multiple seven-figure businesses across diverse industries—including medical, nutritional, marketing, and manufacturing—Michael’s entrepreneurial journey is nothing short of remarkable. His ventures have not only thrived locally but have also had a global footprint, with offices in Europe, Africa, Asia, and the Americas. Collectively, his companies have generated over $300 million in sales.Beyond his own business achievements, Michael is passionate about empowering others to create and scale their own successful enterprises. He specializes in guiding individuals to launch businesses that not only generate significant profits but also enhance their personal lives. Michael’s approach integrates strengthening marital intimacy, raising exceptional children, maintaining a vibrant and healthy lifestyle, and preserving personal identity throughout the entrepreneurial journey.Michael's mentoring focuses on helping people discover their passion, determine their purpose, and tap into their inner power. He firmly believes that it's possible to achieve success in business without compromising on family, health, or personal fulfillment. Michael’s expertise and guidance provide a roadmap to having it all, and he is dedicated to showing others how to attain this fulfillment and prosperity in their own lives.----------------------------------------This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/Links:Site: infiniteCEO.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Infinite_CEOInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/infinite_ceoLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/infiniteceo/Email: mgoss@infiniteceo.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Jul 11, 2024 • 23min

TRP 205: How to Build Credibility with Jessica Yarbrough

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Jessica Yarbrough, business strategist and growth expert, about how professionals can build credibility and scale their business. Jessica explains that credibility is the foundation of business success, and the most effective way to establish it is by teaching and sharing expertise. She emphasizes that professionals must position themselves as industry authorities by educating their audience through videos, articles, podcasts, and speaking engagements. Rather than simply promoting services, experts should focus on showing how their solutions work to build trust with potential clients.Key topics include overcoming self-doubt when sharing expertise, how to effectively structure teaching content without overcomplicating it, and why social proof is a game-changer in business development. Jessica explains how to leverage testimonials, case studies, and success stories to establish authority and credibility. She also shares insights on identifying urgent pain points in a target audience, pricing services based on value, and avoiding the mistake of undercharging due to self-limiting beliefs. Additionally, she discusses the importance of mindset in scaling a business, including how confidence, strategic decision-making, and consistency play a role in long-term success. This episode provides actionable strategies for professionals looking to increase credibility, attract high-value clients, and grow their businesses efficiently.Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/----------------------------------------7 Figure Consultant Case Study: How We Scaled a Management Consultant to 7 Figures in a Year https://expertaccelerator.mykajabi.com/cs-maureen-oLadder of Influence: The Secrets to influencing others to buy from you and scale your authority to grow a 7 figure + coaching or consulting business https://jessicayarbrough.com/influence----------------------------------------This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/Links:Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicayarbrough-bizconsultant/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jessicayarbroughWebsite: https://jessicayarbrough.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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