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Ever wonder where the internet stops and IRL begins? Close All Tabs breaks down how digital culture shapes our world through thoughtful insights and irreverent humor. From internet trends to AI slop to the politics of memes, Close All Tabs covers it all.How will AI change our jobs and lives? Is the government watching what I post? Is there life beyond TikTok? Host Morgan Sung pulls from experts, the audience, and history to add context to the trends and depth to the memes. And she’ll wrestle with as many browser tabs as it takes to explain the cultural moment we’re all collectively living.Morgan Sung is a tech journalist whose work covers the range of absurdity and brilliance that is the internet. Her beat has evolved into an exploration of social platforms and how they shape real-world culture. She has written for TechCrunch, NBC News, Mashable, BuzzFeed News and more. We love listening to shows about technology and culture like Power User with Taylor Lorenz, ICYMI, Wow If True, Hard Fork, There Are No Girls On the Internet, Endless Thread, Uncanny Valley from Wired, It’s Been a Minute, and You’re Wrong About. If you like them too, then trust us–you’ll like Close All Tabs.
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Aug 6, 2025 • 33min
Is Algospeak Coming for Us?
Join linguist Adam Aleksic, an etymology aficionado and author of Algospeak, as he delves into how social media is reshaping language. He discusses the rise of terms like 'unalive' created to bypass algorithm filters and how these euphemisms are blending into everyday life. Adam explores the 'euphemism treadmill' theory, revealing how language evolves alongside societal changes. With a fascinating look at the impact of algorithms on identity and communication, he highlights the intricate dance between technology and authentic discourse.

Jul 30, 2025 • 33min
Save or Scroll: ICE + Influencers, Data Hygiene on Grindr, and Labubu Desserts
Daysia Tolentino, founder of Yap Year and writer at Entertainment Weekly, joins Moises Mendez II from Out Magazine for a lively discussion. They dive into the intriguing case of influencers facing ICE calls and brainstorm the implications of Grindr's new age verification feature on user safety and privacy. The conversation shifts to a whimsical trend around Labubu matcha Dubai chocolate, exploring its consumer frenzy. Together, they dissect the complicated landscape of internet culture while pondering what content deserves our attention.

Jul 28, 2025 • 12min
Bonus: A Big Win for the Internet Archive
Brewster Kahle, founder and director of The Internet Archive, passionately discusses the organization’s recent achievement in becoming a federal depository library. He explores what this status means for public access to government documents amid ongoing legal challenges. Kahle emphasizes the significance of preserving information in the digital age and highlights the Archive's role in making vast amounts of knowledge accessible to everyone. He also addresses the ongoing criticism of the Archive and its practices, advocating for transparency in digital libraries.

Jul 23, 2025 • 32min
OGs of Tech: A Latino Engineer in Silicon Valley
In a field obsessed with the future, sometimes it’s worth looking back. OGs of Tech is a new occasional series from Close All Tabs that looks beyond the billionaires to spotlight the often-overlooked innovators who helped build the digital world we live in today.
One of these OGs is Felidoro Cueva, who grew up in a rural village in the Andes mountains of Peru, and immigrated to the US in 1964 — during the height of the Civil Rights Movement and the Vietnam War. He went on to become one of the first Latino engineers in Silicon Valley.
And he’s also our producer Maya Cueva’s dad. Maya takes us through Feli’s journey — from how counterculture experimentation influenced his fascination with technology to the discrimination he faced in a startup world where Latino representation was nearly nonexistent.
Guests:
Felidoro Cueva, a pioneering Latino engineer in Silicon Valley
Further reading:
Only The Moon/Solamente La Luna — directed by Maya Cueva and animated by Leah Nichols
Meshugganismo — Maya Cueva, Latino USA
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Credits:
This episode was reported and hosted by Morgan Sung. Our Producer is Maya Cueva. Chris Egusa is our Senior Editor. Jen Chien is KQED’s Director of Podcasts, and also helps edit the show. Sound design by Maya Cueva and Brendan Willard. Original music, including our theme song, by Chris Egusa. Additional music from APM. Mixing and mastering by Brendan Willard. Audience engagement support from Maha Sanad. Katie Sprenger is our Podcast Operations Manager. Ethan Toven-Lindsay is our Editor in Chief.
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Jul 16, 2025 • 35min
Teens Under the Influence (of Chatbots)
Young people are increasingly turning to AI “companion chatbots” to meet their emotional needs. But a new study shows that these chatbots, which are designed to mimic real social relationships, can carry serious risks. In this episode, Morgan and her sister put one chatbot's safety guardrails to the test — and get more than they bargained for. Then, KQED Silicon Valley senior editor Rachael Myrow explains why teens are especially vulnerable, what lawmakers are doing about it, and how parents can talk to their kids about AI.
Guests:
Rachael Myrow, senior editor, Silicon Valley News Desk at KQED
Further reading:
Kids Are Talking to AI Companion Chatbots. Stanford Researchers Say That’s a Bad Idea — Rachael Myrow, KQED
How to Talk With Your Kids About AI Companion Bots — Rachael Myrow, KQED
Social AI Companions — AI Risk Assessment Team, Commons Sense Media
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Want to give us feedback on the series? Shoot us an email at CloseAllTabs@KQED.org
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Credits:
This episode was reported and hosted by Morgan Sung. Our Producer is Maya Cueva. Chris Egusa is our Senior Editor. Jen Chien is KQED’s Director of Podcasts, and also helps edit the show. Sound design by Chris Egusa and Brendan Willard. Original music, including our theme song, by Chris Egusa. Additional music from APM. Mixing and mastering by Brendan Willard. Audience engagement support from Maha Sanad. Katie Sprenger is our Podcast Operations Manager. Ethan Toven-Lindsay is our Editor in Chief.
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Jul 2, 2025 • 35min
How the Furry Fandom Says Goodbye
Furries are often known for wearing full-body animal suits at conventions — but the characters they inhabit, called “fursonas,” are much more than costumes. They’re deeply personal expressions of identity and creativity. So when someone in the furry fandom dies, how does the community say goodbye? In this episode, Morgan explores a virtual memorial created by a furry named Changa Husky, where mourners gather in VR to remember those they’ve lost — and the fursonas they leave behind.
Editor's note: In this episode, we refer to some individuals only by their “fursona” names. We’ve chosen to use these names because members of the furry community are frequently subject to harassment, bullying, and doxxing, and many participants use online handles to maintain their safety and privacy.
Guests:
Changa Husky, furry Vtuber and video producer
Patch O’Furr, founder and writer, Dogpatch Press
Further reading:
Who runs the internet? Furries — Dylan Reeve, The Spinoff
Remembering Mark Merlino (1952-2024), a founder and soul of furry fandom — Patch O’Furr, Dogpatch Press
The Fandom: A Furry Documentary — Ash Coyote, YouTube
Read the transcript here
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Heads up — the Close All Tabs team is taking a break to touch grass, so we won’t have an episode next week. But we’ll be back with another deep dive, and many more tabs, in two weeks.
Credits:
This episode was reported and hosted by Morgan Sung. Our Producer is Maya Cueva. Chris Egusa is our Senior Editor. Jen Chien is KQED’s Director of Podcasts, and also helps edit the show. Sound design by Chris Egusa and Brendan Willard. Original music, including our theme song, by Chris Egusa. Additional music from APM. Mixing and mastering by Brendan Willard. Audience engagement support from Maha Sanad and Alana Walker. Katie Sprenger is our Podcast Operations Manager. Holly Kernan is our Chief Content Officer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 25, 2025 • 33min
Curls, Coils, and Pixels: Researchers Crack the Code on Black Hair Animation
The animation industry has long struggled to get Black hair right — from the infamous “Killmonger locs,” named after the Black Panther character and copied across video games, to the stiff, oversized afros of The Sims 4. As it turns out, hair animation tools were built almost exclusively with straight hair in mind. Two researchers, A.M. Darke and Theodore Kim, recently published a landmark paper about the physics of animating curly, coiled, and afro-textured hair. Morgan sits down with A.M. and Theodore as they discuss the surprising pushback they encountered in the animation industry, the findings of their paper, and the uphill battle they faced in getting this field of study recognized within academia.
Guests:
A.M. Darke, artist, game designer, and an associate professor of Performance, Play, & Design at UC Santa Cruz
Theodore Kim, Professor of Computer Science at Yale University
Further reading:
Lifted Curls: A Model for Tightly Coiled Hair Simulation - Alvin Shi, Haomiao Wu, A.M. Darke, and Theodore Kim
Curly-Cue: Geometric Methods for Highly Coiled Hair - Alvin Shi, Haomiao Wu, A.M. Darke, and Theodore Kim
The 'Killmonger Cut' Is Everywhere In Games, Here's Why the Industry Needs to Fix This — Trone Dowd, IGN
We’re Much Closer to A Disney Princess With Type 4 Hair — Essence Gant, Allure
Open Source Afro Hair Library - A.M. Darke
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Credits:
This episode was reported and hosted by Morgan Sung. Our Producer is Maya Cueva. Chris Egusa is our Senior Editor. This episode was edited by Chris Hambrick and Chris Egusa. Jen Chien is KQED’s Director of Podcasts, and also helps edit the show. Sound design by Maya Cueva, Chris Egusa and Brendan Willard. Original music by Chris Egusa, with additional music from APM. Mixing and mastering by Brendan Willard. Audience engagement support from Maha Sanad and Alana Walker. Katie Sprenger is our Podcast Operations Manager. Holly Kernan is our Chief Content Officer.
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Jun 18, 2025 • 35min
The Spotify Effect, Pt 2: Micro-Genre Madness
Spotify didn’t just change how we listen to music — it changed what a genre even is. In this episode, producer and rapper Quinn reflects on being thrust into the spotlight at age 15 as one of the breakout faces of Spotify’s meteoric Hyperpop playlist.. Then, music journalist Kieran Press-Reynolds breaks down how Spotify’s made-up micro-genres—like Goblincore, Anime Drill, and Bubblegrunge—are reshaping music discovery and putting pressure on artists to conform.
Guests:
Quinn, independent producer and rapper
Kieran Press-Reynolds, independent reporter covering music and internet culture
Further reading:
How to break free of Spotify's algorithm — Tiffany Ng, MIT Technology Review
The Lost Promises of Hyperpoptimism — Kieran Press-Reynolds, Pitchfork
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Credits:
This episode was reported and hosted by Morgan Sung. Our Producer is Maya Cueva. Chris Egusa is our Senior Editor. Additional editing by Jen Chien. Sound design by Chris Egusa and Brendan Willard. Theme and credits music by Chris Egusa, with additional music from APM. Mixing and mastering by Brendan Willard. Audience engagement support from Maha Sanad and Alana Walker. Katie Sprenger is our Podcast Operations Manager. Holly Kernan is our Chief Content Officer.
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Jun 11, 2025 • 26min
Elon's Great Crash-Out / Unmasked in LA
Elon Musk and President Trump breaking up? LA protesters clashing with law enforcement? Waymos on fire (again)? Things have been moving fast the last few days — and like you, our feeds are on overload. Today, we’re bringing you a quick reaction episode to catch you up on a couple stories we’ve covered before that are suddenly back in the news. Close All Tabs producer Maya Cueva joins Morgan to break it all down.
We’ve talked about a few of these stories before — if you want to go deeper, here are some past episodes to check out:
The Broligarchy Pt 1: Chronicles of the PayPal Mafia | KQED
The Surveillance Machine, Pt. 1: How We Got Here | KQED
Waymo Robotaxis - Uneasiness and Vandalism | KQED
Further reading:
A timeline of the twists and turns in the Trump-Musk relationship — Nnamdi Egwuonwu, NBC News
Immigration Protests Threaten to Boil Over in Los Angeles — E. Tammy Kim, The New Yorker
ICE raids tried to split LA apart, but might have made it stronger — Michael Lozano, LA Public Press
How Waymo got caught in the crossfire of Los Angeles ICE protests —
Joe Berkowitz, Fast Company
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Credits:
This episode was reported and hosted by Morgan Sung. Our Producer is Maya Cueva. Chris Egusa is our Senior Editor. Additional editing by Jen Chien. Sound design by Maya Cueva, Chris Egusa and Brendan Willard. Original music by Chris Egusa, with additional music from APM. Mixing and mastering by Brendan Willard. Audience engagement support from Maha Sanad and Alana Walker. Katie Sprenger is our Podcast Operations Manager. Holly Kernan is our Chief Content Officer.
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Jun 4, 2025 • 34min
The Spotify Effect, Pt 1: Ghosts in the Playlist
Liz Pelly, a music journalist and the author of *Mood Machine*, dives into the transformative power of Spotify as it evolves from a basic music library to a data-driven platform tailored to user moods. She discusses the rise of 'ghost artists' and the ethical concerns surrounding music authenticity. Pelly reveals how personalized playlists shift our relationship with music, leading to a potential loss of intimacy in listening. Plus, she creatively explores the mystery of whether she's being haunted by Sabrina Carpenter!