
BiggerPockets Money Podcast
For those who have money… or want more of it!Join Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench (from BiggerPockets.com) weekly for the BiggerPockets Money Podcast. Each week, financial experts Mindy and Scott interview unique and powerful thought leaders about how to earn more, keep more, spend smarter, and grow wealth.
Latest episodes

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Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 5min
The Proven Path to Financial Independence in Your 40s
Dave Fleischer, a teacher and host of the Financially Independent Teachers podcast, shares his inspiring journey to financial independence by age 39. He emphasizes that achieving wealth isn’t solely about income levels, but how strategically you manage your finances. Discover how living below your means and downsizing your lifestyle can serve as a 'cheat code' for building wealth. Dave also highlights the importance of financial education and making informed choices that align with your goals, proving that financial freedom is attainable for everyone.

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Jun 13, 2025 • 1h 2min
How to Access Retirement Funds Early Using the 72(t) Strategy
John Bowens, Director of Education at Equity Trust, shares his expertise on the 72(t) strategy for early retirement fund access. He breaks down the intricacies of Substantially Equal Periodic Payments (SEPP) and how to avoid hefty penalties for early withdrawals. Listeners learn critical compliance rules and the importance of investment strategy for utilizing retirement accounts effectively. John also discusses various distribution methods, including amortization and annuitization, and highlights the risks and planning needed for a successful retirement strategy.

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Jun 10, 2025 • 56min
Money with Katie: Breaking Free from the Middle-Class Money Trap
Katie Gatti Tassin, founder of Money with Katie and author of 'Rich Girl Nation', shares her journey of breaking free from the middle-class financial trap. She discusses her early financial awakening that helped her double her income and build a profitable business. The conversation emphasizes the importance of real-time spending tracking and challenges the so-called financial 'truths' that can hinder wealth. Katie offers actionable mindset shifts and strategies for financial independence, promoting empowerment and improved financial literacy for women.

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Jun 6, 2025 • 54min
4% Rule Creator Bill Bengen Reveals His NEW 5% Retirement Strategy
Bill Bengen, a financial advisor and the mastermind behind the 4% rule, joins the discussion with fresh insights for retirement planning. He reveals why his updated recommendation is now a 4.7% withdrawal rate, signaling greater financial flexibility for retirees. Bengen dives into the psychological barriers retirees face when spending, the role of real estate in a diversified portfolio, and strategies for both active and passive management. He emphasizes the importance of controlling expenses and finding purpose beyond money, reshaping traditional retirement strategies.

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Jun 3, 2025 • 55min
The Ultimate Guide to Asset Protection: LLCs, Insurance & Partnerships
In this engaging discussion, real estate attorney Bonnie Galam, who specializes in asset protection and estate planning, dives into the crucial topic of safeguarding investments. She reveals the two sides of asset protection, emphasizing proactive measures over reactive ones. Bonnie addresses whether LLCs are necessary for rentals and explains the importance of tailored insurance coverage. Listeners will gain insights on estate planning, the risks of equity partnerships, and how personal events can jeopardize properties, all while learning actionable steps for securing their portfolios.

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May 30, 2025 • 40min
The “Set It and Forget It” Path to FIRE by Your 40s
Meet two ambitious twins who achieved impressive six-figure net worths in their 20s, all while pursuing financial independence and early retirement. They share their 'set it and forget it' approach to investing, combining stocks and rental properties for a diversified income. Flexibility is key as they discuss adapting FIRE goals to life's changes and navigating market fluctuations with ease. Plus, they reveal how family values shaped their journey into real estate, and they offer insights for beginners eager to learn about building wealth.

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May 27, 2025 • 55min
Leaving His Job at 36 to Give Back, NOT Get Rich During FI
Ryan Brennan, founder of the FI Service Corps, shares his inspiring journey to achieve Coast FI by 36 and leave his corporate job for service work. He discusses the savvy money moves that propelled him to a seven-figure net worth and the emotional rewards of pursuing a purpose beyond wealth. Ryan highlights the essence of financial independence—using resources to give back to the community, including building homes for low-income families. His vision promotes a fulfilling life focused on altruism, community impact, and personal freedom.

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May 23, 2025 • 1h 2min
If No One Follows the 4% Rule, What IS the Right Withdrawal Rate?
In this engaging discussion, Karsten Jeske, aka "Big Ern," an early retiree and expert on safe withdrawal rates, challenges the widely accepted 4% rule for retirement. He shares insights on why even he doesn't follow it, suggesting a more comfortable withdrawal rate for early retirees. Karsten emphasizes the need for adaptability in withdrawal strategies amidst today's volatile markets, discusses diversifying portfolios with cash-flowing assets, and presents differing views on whether to pay off mortgages or invest. Essential advice for aspiring FIRE followers!

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May 20, 2025 • 47min
No, Taxes Won’t Derail Your FIRE: Here’s What You’ll Really Pay in Retirement
Mark Livingstone, an investor and data analyst, dives into how taxes in retirement are less daunting than most people believe. He reveals insights from his free tax spreadsheet that predict retirement tax burdens. The discussion highlights the differences between marginal and effective tax rates, showing that early retirees often pay less tax today than in previous decades. Mark also shares strategies to optimize withdrawal methods and explains the four income ‘levers’ for tax-friendly financial planning in the FIRE journey.

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May 16, 2025 • 43min
Scott Steps Down as CEO: A New Age for BiggerPockets Money
In this episode, Ale Ayestaran, the new CEO of BiggerPockets and former leader at one of the largest property management firms, shares insights on transitioning leadership and his inspiring career journey from Patagonia to tech. He discusses the evolving landscape of real estate, highlighting how technology is revolutionizing property management and investor experiences. Ale emphasizes the vital role of community support during these changes and the importance of AI in enhancing user interactions and investment strategies.