
Product Bakery – The Product Management, UX & Design Podcast
In this Show, Design Manager Alex Dapunt, and Product Coach Christian Strunk are bringing people from all product functions together to talk about the key to build successful products customers love. This involves everything from Product Management to Design as well as Development and Marketing, breaking down traditional silos around these functions and fostering an open dialogue between them. Tune in for weekly interviews, discussions, and best practices that help you understand the whole product process.
Latest episodes

Nov 15, 2021 • 15min
#76 Follow up: Asking stupid questions & playing dumb
Doing product management isn't easy. Even though, with gazillions of books that people have read, they can sometimes not execute the knowledge. In this episode, Christian and Alex took a deeper look at why that's the case.
Table of content:
00:30 - Why is product management so hard?
02:40 - Chicken & egg problem
03:30 - Collaboration & soft skills are essential
06:50 - Regular reminders
08:15 - Making a change as an individual
10:55 - Making compromises
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Nov 7, 2021 • 36min
#75 Asking powerful stupid questions - with Paul Ortchanian, CEO @Bainpublic
Asking great questions is a real-life superpower! Sometimes though, it's important to take a step back and ask (powerful) stupid questions, especially when you are new in a role as a product person.
In this episode, the Product Bakers talked to Paul about coaching CEOs to develop a product mindset. Despite that, they've talked about what product people can do to establish more product thinking.
Table of content:
00:30 - Episode Intro
01:50 - Intro Paul
04:45 - The ego of founders
10:50 - What founders need to hear
16:10 - Influential product management
22:35 - Asking dumb questions
32:35 - What founders & PMs can do to make a change
Follow Paul:
Linkedin: @paulortchanian
Bainpublic: https://www.bainpublic.com/
Reads:
Why the Product Manager Should Also Play Dumb
https://blog.bainpublic.com/post/why-the-product-manager-should-also-play-dumb
Why Empathy Is the Key to Success for Your Next Product Objective
https://blog.bainpublic.com/post/why-empathy-is-the-key-to-success-for-your-next-product-objective
You accomplish everything through others
https://blog.bainpublic.com/post/you-accomplish-everything-through-others
Product Management: Saying No Without Shutting Them Down
https://blog.bainpublic.com/post/product-management-saying-no-without-shutting-them-down
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Oct 25, 2021 • 20min
#74 Roadmaps: Share Them With Your Customers!
Public roadmaps became a hot topic in the past. Christian & Alex decided to speak about the benefits of sharing your roadmap with your customers and how to define it in a way that they will understand your future plans.
Table of content:
00:30 - Intro & chit chat
02:35 - Transparency is key
03:20 - The idea of "open startup"
05:50 - Customers love knowing your plans
07:15 - Using good terminology
11:25 - Getting feedback from your customers
13:30 - What you should not share publicly
16:00 - Don't be afraid to share your plans
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Oct 4, 2021 • 11min
#73 One year Product Bakery! 🥳 Let's do a retrospective 🧐
The Product Bakery podcast was started on the 10th of September 2020. After one year of podcasting and many interviews, Christian and Alex sat down to take a couple of looks back...
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Sep 26, 2021 • 35min
#72 Defining a Data-Driven Product Strategy - Konrad Heimpel, VP Product & Data @Getsafe
The whole insurance space is very slow. At least it used to be! Konrad Heipmel's mission @Getsafe is to disrupt the insurance market. As VP of Data & Product, he shared with the Product Bakers how they focus on data to build a product that fits the market needs and solves the customer pain points.
Table of content:
00:30 - Episode Intro
02:20 - Intro of Konrad & the insurance space
07:00 - The biggest challenges of the industry
10:40 - Working with product principles
13:45 - How to scale up domains & teams
16:15 - The relevance of data
18:15 - Establishing a data mindset & culture
21:10 - Data-driven product strategy
25:15 - Data as a foundation to form teams & squads
29:25 - Entrepreneurial decision vs. data-based decisions
Links & connect with Konrad:
Linkedin: @konradheimpel
PMF Survey: https://review.firstround.com/how-superhuman-built-an-engine-to-find-product-market-fit
Getsafe Jobs: https://www.hellogetsafe.com/career
Getsafe tech blog: https://medium.com/hellogetsafe
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Sep 16, 2021 • 20min
#71 Forming & working with task forces
Many companies and teams want to become faster and speed up projects. That's a topic Christian & Alex are regularly faced with. This time they spoke about the concept of project-specific teams (task forces) and how to form them as well as their pros & cons.
Table of content:
00:30 - Example: Redesigning an app
02:45 - The concept of a task force
05:10 - How to form a task force
08:00 - Good project management is key
12:40 - Outsourcing projects to agencies
16:35 - Estimating scope and delivery
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Sep 9, 2021 • 21min
#70 Remote product management & design
Alex and Christian did manage for a long time to meet and record in person again. Therefore, they picked up the topic of working remove vs. being onsite. How can and should teams decide what's best in terms of tooling and location? Tune in to learn more!
Table of content:
00:30 - Meeting in person
05:05 - What's best to be creative?
08:40 - 1:1s vs team meetings
12:25 - Industry and professions are relevant
17:25 - Cross-functional teams onsite vs. remote
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Aug 30, 2021 • 18min
#69 Staying in Touch With Your Stakeholders
Communication can be the hardest work sometimes. Due to the fact that a lot of companies moved to remote work, it's not getting easier. This time Christian and Alex picked up the whole topic of stakeholder management and what product people can do to bond and keep up alignment.
Table of content:
00:30 - Is communicating getting harder?
02:45 - Different people with different agendas
06:35 - Stakeholder awareness
09:40 - The first step to good stakeholder management
11:45 - Being proactive instead of passive
13:45 - Planning and preparing communication
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Aug 23, 2021 • 10min
#68 Taking Care of Your Work-Life Balance
Alex is close to going on vacation. Therefore, he and Christian caught up on the whole topic of work-life balance and discussed what it needs to maintain a healthy balance.
Table of content:
00:30 - Alex going on vacation
02:50 - The importance of work-life balance
05:25 - Working on vacation
07:00 - Taking care of your employees
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Aug 23, 2021 • 17min
#67 Breaking User Behavior Patterns
Sometimes, the products we use seem to become more complex than easier. The product bakers discussed why that happens and the reasons.
Table of content:
00:30 - iOS 15 and the safari URL bar
07:20 - Strategy & big picture vs. UX
09:30 - Designing against the customer
13:00 - The danger of copying trends
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