
Real Relationships Real Revenue - Audio Edition | Invest in Relationships to Build Your Business and Your Career
Are you leading important client relationships and also on the hook for growing them? The growth part can seem mysterious, but it doesn’t have to be!
Business development expert Mo Bunnell will take you inside the minds of some of the most interesting thought leaders in the world, applying their insights to growth skills. You’ll learn proven processes to implement modern techniques.
You’ll learn how to measure their impact. And, everything will be based in authenticity, always having the client’s best interest in mind. No shower required.
Latest episodes

Sep 24, 2022 • 41min
The Science of Positioning: How to Stand Out in the Mind Of Your Client
How do you position yourself uniquely so that you can win more often? In this episode of Real Relationships Real Revenue, I’m diving into the topic of positioning. I have found that this is very rarely taught but it’s a critical skill to make yourself unique in the mind of the buyer. I’m sharing tips for creating your three key messages, how to become more memorable, pro tips for communicating, and so much more so that you can truly stand out amongst the competition. Topics We Cover in This Episode: The law of positioning Why people don’t care about your accolades The three words to use when talking to a client Why three is the perfect number Why you need to include three reasons a client should work with you The research that supports this method Why 3s and 4s are more memorable The three levels at which you might talk about your positioning Why it’s up to you to determine how to add more value The five things you need to choose your three key messages The four reasons that clients choose someone else When to be bold in your positioning Using one to two words per message How exactly to word your three messages The benefits of using rhyming or alliteration It is up to you to figure out how you're clearly going to add more value than anybody else. Boil it down to three things, because that's more believable and memorable to your clients. Show how in this exact position, you are going to provide a unique value. Make sure your team is on board so everything is aligned and make sure you learn how to communicate effectively using the tips I shared today so that clients will choose you more often. If you do these things right and embed them in your habits, you can use them forever! Resources Mentioned: Read the Cryder research Read Dr. Suzanne Shu’s research Read the Rouder research about 3s Check out the positioning Wikipedia page Get the Al Ries and Jack Trout book on positioning Read the study about rhyming

Sep 23, 2022 • 13min
Three Ways to Communicate Effectively
The last few episodes have been all about positioning yourself uniquely in the mind of your client or decision-maker. You’ll want to use these methods and frameworks every time you are speaking with a client and especially when the stakes are high. You want them to see you as the only one who can give them what they are looking for. In this episode of Real Relationships Real Revenue, I’m sharing some pro tips on how exactly you can communicate these three messages more effectively. Topics We Cover in This Episode: Using one to two words per message How exactly to word your three messages The benefits of using rhyming or alliteration You're striving for simplicity, believability, the benefit to your client, and all these other things that we've been talking about in these episodes. The last thing I want is for you to do all of the work to come up with your unique positioning and then not communicate them effectively. If you do these things right and embed them in your habits, you can use them forever. If you want to learn more about the study of why rhyming is so effective, check it out here. It’s a super interesting study. Resources Mentioned: Read the study about rhyming

Sep 22, 2022 • 9min
The Five Key Elements to Come Up with Your Three Key Messages
In the last few episodes, we have talked all about the science of positioning. We talked about how to show your clear value and how to be more believable and memorable to clients when you’re sharing why they should work with you. In this episode of Real Relationships Real Revenue, we’re talking about how to get your team together to have a discussion on the five key elements to arrive at your three key messages. Topics We Cover in This Episode: The five things you need to choose your three key messages The four reasons that clients choose someone else When to be bold in your positioning This is a very important conversation and you want to have it at the very beginning of this process. If you do this, then throughout your communication, proposal, and any other formal or informal process when the stakes are high, you will have your three key messages ready to go which will set you apart. Your team will buy into this better if they’re the ones shaping it, so make sure to get everyone involved in the process. When you do it upfront, everything is aligned throughout the entire process. Make sure to check out the Wikipedia page on positioning. You can also grab the Al Ries and Jack Trout book on positioning if you want to go deeper and make sure to get the 20th-anniversary edition NOT the original because it has pictures and illustrations. Resources Mentioned: Check out the positioning Wikipedia page Get the Al Ries and Jack Trout book on positioning

Sep 21, 2022 • 6min
The Three Levels When It Comes to Positioning Yourself in a Memorable Way
In the last couple of episodes, we talked about the power of positioning. We covered how you can communicate value to your client and the importance of using three reasons to make it more believable. In this episode of Real Relationships Real Revenue, we are diving into how using three is more memorable as well. Topics We Cover in This Episode: Why 3s and 4s are more memorable The three levels that you might talk about your positioning Why it’s up to you to determine how to add more value It is up to you to figure out how you're clearly going to add more value than anybody else. Boil it down to three things, because that's more believable and memorable to your clients. Show how in this exact position, you are going to provide a unique value. Don’t just rely on simple marketing-driven differentiation. I want you to go up two notches to the “deal” level and help them understand how you are truly unique and how working with you will benefit them. Make sure to check out the research about why 3s are more memorable. Resources Mentioned: Read the Rouder research about 3s

Sep 20, 2022 • 5min
Communicating Your Value With the Power of Three
This week we are talking about positioning and how you can communicate your value in a way that’s memorable and clearly benefits the client, so you can start getting chosen more often. In this episode of Real Relationships Real Revenue, I’m diving into the Power of Three and why it matters when talking to clients. Topics We Cover in This Episode: Why three is the perfect number Why you need to include three reasons a client should work with you The research that supports this method Having too many reasons a client should work with you is too confusing; having too few reasons can be confusing as well. There is research that shows three is the perfect number of reasons you should include when talking to a potential client about why they should work with you. If you want to learn more about the research about this from Dr. Suzanne Shu, make sure to check it out here. This study is actually quite readable and the concept is incredibly powerful so I highly recommend that you dig in. Resources Mentioned: Read Dr. Suzanne Shu’s research: https://doi.org/10.1509/jm.11.0504

Sep 19, 2022 • 8min
How to Position Yourself Uniquely So You Can Win More Often
How do you position yourself uniquely so that you can win more often? In this episode of Real Relationships Real Revenue, I’m diving into the topic of positioning. I have found that this is very rarely taught but it’s a critical skill to make yourself unique in the mind of the buyer. Topics We Cover in This Episode: The law of positioning Why people don’t care about your accolades The three words to use when talking to a client People don’t care about your accolades, they care about how you are going to impact them. So try to avoid talking too much about yourself when speaking to clients. Simple messages win. You want to shape the decision criteria and convey your messages so that it shows a clear benefit to the client. This may seem nebulous, but I’m going to give you the process of how to accomplish this over the next couple of videos. Make sure to check out the Cryder research that I mentioned in this episode. This research is incredibly powerful and I think you’ll really enjoy it. Resources Mentioned: Read the Cryder research: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.obhdp.2012.08.002

Sep 17, 2022 • 39min
How to Utilize the Power of Storytelling to Become Unforgettable to Your Clients
Storytelling is an incredibly powerful tool for business growth. It’s even more important than most people realize. Studies show that when people create a story around facts, it drastically increases the ability of people to remember those facts. This week on Real Relationships Real Revenue, I’m sharing the elements that make up a compelling story and the most important types of stories that you need to have ready to go to really make an impact on your clients. Topics We Cover in This Episode: Why storytelling is important How stories help people remember what they’re told How stories connect people The power of using words that convey the five senses The importance of taking stories seriously What the Call is in a story Using a hero and a villain in your story When the hero accepts the Call How to use the Call when you talk to clients What needs to be included in the Conflict How to choose the elements to highlight in your conflict The most critical part of sharing the Conflict in your story The importance of cutting out the extra detail and only including what’s important to the recipient What to cover during the Conclusion Why stories fall flat without the Conclusion Why you should never skip over this part of your story Why you need to have an origin story The elements to include in your origin story Why you need to have a client success story How many client success stories you need How to perfect your stories Storytelling is an incredibly powerful way to get people to remember you and connect with you on a deeper level. When used in business, you can wow your clients by telling compelling stories that illustrate your expertise and experiences. By including the three essential elements of your story: the Call, the Conflict, and the Conclusion, you will deliver more powerful stories that people can’t help but remember. It’s so important that you don’t take these stories for granted. Take the time to figure them out. If you pay attention to the key stories and really tighten the screws, you will use them forever and your time spent will be well worth it. Resources Mentioned: Check out Dr. Bollinger’s study Listen to my conversation with Nancy about storytelling Learn more about Joseph Campbell Check out The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell and Bill Moyers Watch The Power of Myth videos with Joseph Campbell Listen to my origin story

Sep 16, 2022 • 9min
The Two Types of Stories You Need and How to Perfect Them
We have covered the three powerful elements of a story - the Call, the Conflict, and the Conclusion. In today’s episode of Real Relationships Real Revenue, we are going to learn about the most important types of stories that you’ll want to have memorized and ready to go so that you can share them whenever you need a compelling allusion. Topics We Cover in This Episode: Why you need to have an origin story The elements to include in your origin story Why you need to have a client success story How many client success stories you need How to perfect your stories It’s important that you really take the time to get these stories right. Your origin story should be only a few minutes but it should give a really compelling story about why you do what you do and how you came to have the expertise you have. You should have as many client success stories as you have offers. That way, no matter what offer you’re talking about, you have an engaging and compelling story ready to share with that client. It’s so important that you don’t take these stories for granted. Take the time to figure them out. If you pay attention to the key stories and really tighten the screws, you will use them forever and your time spent will be well worth it. Resources Mentioned: Listen to my origin story

Sep 15, 2022 • 7min
Why the Conclusion Is the Most Important Element of Storytelling
In the last couple of episodes, we covered the first two elements of storytelling - the Call and the Conflict - and why they are so important to your stories. In today’s episode of Real Relationships Real Revenue, I’m talking about the third and final element, the Conclusion. In my opinion, this is the most important piece of the puzzle… but so many people miss it. They all think it ends when the hero accomplishes the goal, but it doesn’t! The Conclusion is where you summarize the impact of what really happened. Topics We Cover in This Episode: What to cover during the Conclusion Why stories fall flat without the Conclusion Why you should never skip over this part of your story This part of the story is where you really stick the landing. By sharing everything that came out of the story, you really get to share the massive impact that you were able to achieve. You show the clients what is possible in these types of situations. Now that we have concluded covering the elements of a story and why they all matter, in the next video I’m going to be sharing some important types of stories that you want to have memorized and ready to go so that you can use them over and over again. Resources Mentioned: Watch The Power of Myth videos with Joseph Campbell

Sep 14, 2022 • 8min
Why the Conflict in Your Story Matters
This week on Real Relationships Real Revenue, we have been diving into the power and science of storytelling in business. There are three main elements to a great story and they are the Call, the Conflict, and the Conclusion. In the last episode, we talked about the Call, and in this episode, we are talking more about the Conflict and why it matters in your storytelling. Topics We Cover in This Episode: What needs to be included in the Conflict How to choose the elements to highlight in your conflict The most critical part of sharing the Conflict in your story The importance of cutting out the extra detail and only including what’s important to the recipient When explaining the Conflict to your client, you want to eliminate the extraneous detail and only highlight the elements of the story that are important to the client and show them how you can move their life forward. This is a critical part of telling a good story. A great conflict helps everyone achieve more than they ever thought possible. The setup is in the Call where everyone is reluctant, but the Conflict is where you can truly show how much is really possible when you work together. Up next, we are diving into the Conclusion. It’s extremely powerful but it is the most often missed element of storytelling and I can’t wait to share how you can use it in your storytelling. Resources Mentioned: Learn more about Joseph Campbell Check out The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell and Bill Moyers