
"Econ 102" with Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg
Economist and "Noahpinion" writer Noah Smith and investor Erik Torenberg make sense of what’s happening in the news, technology, business, and beyond, through the lens of economics. Econ 102 is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co
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Feb 14, 2025 • 1h 3min
How the Macro, Tariffs and DOGE will Impact your Bank Account | Noah Smith on How To Money
This week's guest, Noah Smith, is an economist and author of the Substack "Noahpinion," celebrated for making complex economic topics accessible. The conversation delves into the implications of tariffs and healthcare costs on personal finance. Noah discusses demographic challenges like the baby bust and offers insights on social security funding amidst declining birth rates. They also explore Argentina's economic turnaround under new leadership, blending humor with serious economic discourse.

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Feb 12, 2025 • 57min
Elon's Real Goal at DOGE & How to Fix the Debt
Dive into the intriguing debate on Elon's initiative to cut government waste through 'Doge', revealing its ideological underpinnings aimed at reducing 'woke' policies. The discussion sheds light on soaring interest costs, the challenges of measuring government efficiency, and the impact of austerity on the middle class. Explore the complexities of healthcare spending and the hidden costs of subsidies. The hosts also tackle the future of Social Security and the potential for cuts in healthcare, emphasizing the balance between fiscal responsibility and social programs.

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Feb 7, 2025 • 50min
Patrick Collison & Noah Smith: How Can the US Stay Ahead Technologically?
Join Patrick Collison, CEO of Stripe, a leader in online payment processing, as he and Noah Smith dive into American technological dominance. They discuss how the U.S. maintains its edge over global competitors through its diverse financing system and unified market, bolstered by immigration. The conversation takes a turn to Gen Z's mental health challenges and the role of humanoid robots in reshaping industries. Key policy recommendations emerge, advocating for innovative approaches to ensure continued economic and social progress.

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Feb 5, 2025 • 1h 5min
Understanding US-China Relations Right Now with Nathan Labenz
Nathan Labenz, an expert on U.S.-China relations and host of "The Cognitive Revolution," dissects the complexities of the current geopolitical climate. He highlights Xi Jinping's ambitious plans that threaten U.S. dominance and discusses the effectiveness of recent U.S. chip export controls. The conversation dives into military technology advancements and the potential ramifications of AI competition, particularly in relation to Taiwan. Labenz advocates for strategic deterrence and innovation to navigate these turbulent waters and promote global stability.

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Jan 31, 2025 • 1h 9min
Paul Krugman on Leaving NYT, America's Economy, and Trump
The conversation dives into Paul Krugman's shift from traditional journalism to independent writing, highlighting the freedom it offers. They explore how public perception of the economy is often skewed by political affiliations. The podcast also delves into the strategic importance of U.S. manufacturing for national security, especially in light of geopolitical tensions. Additionally, they reflect on America's political climate today versus past eras, emphasizing a growing sense of risk and the evolving dynamics of trade policy.

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Jan 29, 2025 • 1h 7min
Trump's Executive Orders, China's Economy, The Bull Case for the Middle East, and Europe's Decline
The conversation dives into the implications of Trump's executive orders on U.S. politics, raising concerns about economic instability and stagflation. The hosts explore Michael Pettis's insights on China's economy and the potential effects of tariffs. An optimistic outlook for the Middle East emerges, focusing on solar energy and agricultural advancements. Additionally, they discuss the socio-political challenges Europe faces with integration and cultural differences, drawing parallels to historical transformations.

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Jan 22, 2025 • 1h 12min
Noah Smith on Taiwan's Future, Nuclear Proliferation, and Trump 2.0 [ChinaTalk]
Lily Ottinger, managing editor and Taipei correspondent for ChinaTalk, chats with Noah Smith about urgent geopolitical matters. They delve into how Trump's potential second term could shift Asian dynamics, especially with tech sectors influencing policy. The conversation touches on nuclear arms, particularly Japan and South Korea's security needs, and Taiwan’s historical nuclear ambitions. They also analyze China's economic stagnation and the impact of debt deflation, offering insights into the island's defense strategies and future economic prospects.

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Jan 15, 2025 • 58min
A Debate with Scott Sumner: Industrial Policy, China, and National Security
In this engaging conversation, Scott Sumner, a renowned economist and former director at the Mercatus Center, dives into the shifting dynamics of U.S.-China relations and its impact on industrial policy. He critiques the retreat from neoliberalism towards more authoritarian approaches, especially in manufacturing green technology. The discussion also highlights China's role in global climate efforts, debates the effectiveness of tariffs, and underscores the essential link between manufacturing capabilities and national security amid rising geopolitical tensions.

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Jan 9, 2025 • 1h 2min
Canada After Trudeau, Immigration Debate, and China's Economy
Geopolitical tensions between the U.S. and China take center stage, with discussions about a potential invasion of Taiwan and the implications for Xi Jinping's leadership. Economic challenges in China, such as deflation and a real estate crisis, are analyzed, stressing the need for government intervention. The evolving landscape of U.S. politics, influenced by shifting demographics, is explored alongside critiques of Canada’s stagnant economy. Lastly, the significance of global protests in 2019 is highlighted, linking them to broader political and societal changes.

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Jan 2, 2025 • 1h 2min
Trump, Tariffs, and the New 80s: America's Next Cultural Reset
Delve into Silicon Valley's cultural sway as it shapes social dynamics and trends. The discussion navigates the decline of 'wokeness' and echoes past societal shifts. The complexities of U.S. tariffs on China reveal challenges for American manufacturing. Explore the intricate relationship between Trump and Musk, highlighting competing visions for the economy. Finally, the conversation touches on the CHIPS Act and the pressing need for effective austerity measures amidst evolving political landscapes.
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