
"Econ 102" with Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg
Economist and "Noahpinion" writer Noah Smith and investor Erik Torenberg make sense of what’s happening in the news, technology, business, and beyond, through the lens of economics. Econ 102 is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co
Latest episodes

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Jun 21, 2025 • 48min
What Replaces Twitter? With Noah Smith & Chris Best, CEO of Substack
Chris Best, CEO of Substack, joins to discuss the transformative role of AI in news media. He envisions Substack as a new breaking news hub amidst Twitter's decline. The conversation delves into the rise of independent voices and the impact of AI on content creation, including live blogging. Best addresses the evolving landscape of media platforms like TikTok and explores the geopolitical nuances of U.S.-China relations. He emphasizes the need for strong alliances to navigate global challenges while enhancing American competitiveness.

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Jun 12, 2025 • 46min
China, Tesla, and the Electric Tech Stack Revolution
The hosts dive into China's complex economic landscape, discussing its resilience amidst demographic challenges and declining real estate. They compare U.S. and Chinese technological advancements, particularly in drone manufacturing and battery tech. The conversation highlights the essential need for American industrial policy and education reform to retain global competitiveness. They also explore how political ideologies are converging on industrial strategies, setting the stage for a new era of innovation and collaboration.

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Jun 4, 2025 • 40min
Cost Disease, USAID Debate, and is Curtis Yarvin Trapped in 2020
Delve into the perplexing world of cost disease, where healthcare and education costs have been reshaped by slow growth and tech innovations. Discover how AI could reimagine education through personalized tutoring, as well as the ongoing debates surrounding student loans and pharmaceutical pricing. The hosts tackle the complexities of inflation metrics and the effectiveness of foreign aid, while also reflecting on the socio-political implications of Curtis Yarvin’s controversial thoughts and the broader need for progress amidst cultural shifts.

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May 28, 2025 • 1h 16min
Noah Smith & Matt Yglesias on the Electric Technology Crisis, China, and America's Future
Matt Yglesias, a prominent writer known for his insights on economics and politics, joins Noah Smith for a riveting discussion. They explore the transformative impact of electric technology on America’s future, from the evolution of batteries to the role of the Inflation Reduction Act. They analyze America's manufacturing challenges and contrast the U.S. and China's approaches to electric vehicles. Additionally, they dive into shifting demographics and the implications for national identity, combining personal anecdotes with reflections on political dynamics and policy challenges.

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May 23, 2025 • 1h 1min
India-Pakistan, Building Back Military Power, and Immigration
Explore the tensions between India and Pakistan, rooted in historical conflicts over Kashmir. Delve into the U.S. military's need for revitalization amid rising threats from China. Discover how AI and electrification are transforming industries and military strategies. The importance of skilled immigration in boosting innovation is emphasized, while critiques of current immigration policies highlight potential barriers. Wages and productivity trends are examined, revealing challenges and shifts in the American economy.

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May 15, 2025 • 54min
The Middle Class Myth, China's Future, and What Really Happened in 1971
Listeners dive into the myth of a declining American middle class, uncovering surprising wage growth during globalization. The discussion highlights the complexities of America's manufacturing landscape and challenges the narrative surrounding trade deficits. Key events from 1971, like the Bretton Woods collapse, are examined for their role in shaping economic dynamics and China's rise. Cautious notes on China's technological advancements contrast with urban planning challenges, while the podcast also addresses divergent political fears about innovation in the U.S.

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May 2, 2025 • 60min
You Can't Tariff Your Way to Greatness
Dive into the intriguing relationship between nostalgia and political ideologies in both the U.S. and China. The discussion reveals how collective historical narratives shape consumer cultures and industrial strategies. Tariffs take center stage as they analyze their disruptive impacts on economies and working-class individuals. Cultural nuances, such as the significance of saving face in negotiations, add depth to U.S.-China relations. Finally, the critique of tariffs raises questions about their effectiveness in re-industrializing America and promoting growth.

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Apr 24, 2025 • 43min
The Deindustrialization Paradox
Dive into a thought-provoking discussion that connects the eerie themes of 'Black Mirror' with the real-world implications of technology on society. Unpack the economic impacts of Trump’s tariff policies versus Biden’s growth strategies. Explore the rising influence of libertarianism in American politics and how social media shapes democratic engagement. The hosts blend humor with insightful analysis, shedding light on trade dynamics and ideological shifts that reflect the complexities of our modern era.

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Apr 18, 2025 • 57min
The Bond Market Rules Everything
The hosts dive into the chaotic trade policies of the Trump administration, criticizing their ineffectiveness. They explore how currency strength impacts consumer behavior and manufacturing, revealing its significance in global competitiveness. The discussion shifts to the complexities of borrowing in today's economy and the challenges faced by exporters due to tariffs. They emphasize the need for a collective strategy to counter China's manufacturing dominance and reflect on the unpredictable nature of economic leadership.

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Apr 14, 2025 • 58min
Tariff Mayhem and Capital Flight
Dive into the chaotic world of tariff policies and their unintended consequences. The discussion highlights misconceptions about trade deficits and their true impact on the economy. Delve into the complexities of capital flight and the shifting dynamics between business and politics. Explore the risks of a potential U.S. government default and its ramifications on inflation and financial stability. The hosts emphasize the importance of strategic trade collaborations over self-sufficiency to counter the dangers of de-industrialization.