

Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast
Glenn Hinds & Sebastian Kaplan
Hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, Talking To Change – A Motivational Interviewing podcast, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.
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Jun 30, 2020 • 58min
Ep 28 – Beyond MI: Helping Young People Change
For our next episode of Talking to Change, we go Beyond MI to explore how someone not directly in the MI world helps guide people through change. Michael Arterberry is a self-described Master Encourager and Dynamic Motivational Speaker. As a teenager, Michael was fortunate to receive guidance from positive adult role models who helped him overcome adversities and set high expectations for his future. Grateful for the role these mentors played in his own development, Michael decided to dedicate his professional life to helping people navigate the difficulties of life and launch their future into motion. For more than 25 years, he has been helping teens and adults to use what they have gone through as a catalyst for success rather than an obstacle for failure.
Michael received the 2010 USA Network’s Characters Unite Award for exceptional commitment to combating prejudice and discrimination while increasing tolerance and acceptance within the community. He is also the recipient of the 2014 100 Men of Color Award for leadership. In 2008, Michael founded Youth Voices Center, Inc. a non-profit with the mission of helping young people to become active, productive members of society by overcoming their obstacles, their history, stereotypes and even their own self-image and limiting beliefs.
Michael is the author of “Be Encouraged: 250 Days of Motivation and Encouragement”, a daily motivational book. Additional information about his struggles as a child and a debilitating spinal cord injury as an adult can be found in his wife’s book “God was Holding My Hand”.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
3:30 – Michael’s introduction: The donkey and the farmer
9:00 – Overcoming fear to create change
14:40 – Breaking cycles
23:00 – Becoming the “driver” of your life
33:30 – Michael’s program for adolescents in schools
39:30 – Empathy across cultures
54:45 – Shifting to a virtual world
58:14 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Facebook: Michael Arterberry
LinkedIn: Michael Arterberry
Website: https://www.michaelarterberry.com/
Website: https://www.youthvoicescenter.org/
Website: https://www.shakethedirtexperience.com/free-book
For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
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Jun 15, 2020 • 1h 5min
Ep 27 – Telehealth & MI
Telehealth & MI
For this episode we warmly welcomed Jordan Braciszewski, PHD, to the podcast. Jordan is a Research Scientist in the Center for Health Policy and Health Services Research at Henry Ford Health System in Detroit, MI, USA. He is also a licensed clinical psychologist and practicing clinician at Monarch Behavioral Health in the Detroit suburbs. Jordan has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers for over 10 years and often provides training, coding, and coaching services throughout Metro Detroit for a variety of organizations. As a researcher, Jordan studies the role technology can play in improving access to mental and physical health services. Often, he uses concepts and strategies from Motivational Interviewing (MI) within his technology-based approaches to improve patient engagement and success. In his role at Henry Ford, Jordan also provides MI training to medical residents, students, and staff across the health system. As a practicing psychologist, Jordan also uses MI with other empirically-supported approaches, like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, to work alongside clients to help them achieve their mental health and life goals, as he strongly believes collaboration between therapist and client is the best way to assure long-term success. Jordan lives in the Detroit suburbs with his wife and two children; he enjoys playing ice hockey, guitar, food, and exploring anything with his kids.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
1:35 – Jordan’s introduction and rationale for telehealth
7:30 – MI and Telehealth: Both ways of meeting a client where they are
9:00 – Jordan’s early MI story
13:30 – Transitioning to telehealth
16:00 – Utilizing tech in a study to support children leaving foster care
21:45 – Overcoming barriers to adopting telehealth
26:10 – Empirical support for telehealth
33:15 – Lack of notable client age-related barriers in telehealth
37:00 – More on barriers: Clinician reimbursement and client access
41:15 – Different types of “tele” and expansion of care options
49:00 – MI skills in telehealth
59:50 – Virtual schooling during the pandemic and other things on Jordan’s mind
1:04:57 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: jbracis1@hfhs.org
Twitter: @jmbrockphd
For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
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May 21, 2020 • 1h 11min
Ep 26 – Self-Determination Theory & MI
Ep. 26 – Self-Determination Theory & MI
We were thrilled to welcome Richard M. Ryan, Ph.D. onto the podcast for this exploration of Self-Determination Theory and its natural links with MI. Richard is a Professor at the Institute for Positive Psychology & Education at the Australian Catholic University and Research Professor in Psychology at the University of Rochester in New York. Richard is a clinical psychologist and co-developer of Self-Determination Theory, one of the leading theories of human motivation. Richard has published over 300 papers and books in the areas of human motivation, personality, and psychological well-being. Richard has been recognised as one of the eminent psychologists of the modern era, Post-World War II.
Richard has lectured in more than 80 universities worldwide, and consulted with numerous organisations, schools, clinics, and health-care initiatives. Recipient of distinguished career awards from multiple societies for his contributions to the field on motivation, personal meaning, and self and identity, he is also a Fellow of the American Psychological Association, the American Educational Research Association, and an Honorary Member of the German Psychological Society (DGP). He has held numerous editorial posts, including having been Editor-in-Chief of Motivation & Emotion. He has also been a James McKeen Cattell and Leverhulme Fellow, and a visiting scientist at the National Institute of Education in Singapore, the University of Bath, UK, and the Max Planck Institute, Berlin.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
2:15 – Richard’s introduction and origins of Self-Determination Theory (SDT)
6:20 – Intrinsic motivation and the importance of autonomy
8:30 – MI and SDT
12:30 – Change talk through the lens of SDT
18:30 – Shifting from internal pressure to autonomously oriented change
20:15 – The SDT continuum of motivation
23:30 – The context of mandated treatment
28:00 – Exploring sustain talk: “Embracing where they are”
33:00 – Three fundamental human needs: Autonomy, Relatedness, and Competence
40:30 – The risk of therapist ego involvement
42:10 – The ultimate therapeutic outcome: “The client’s autonomous choices”
44:45 – The paradox of outcome-driven practices across settings
50:00 – Internal or External? Not good or bad
53:20 – SDT in context of COVID19: Effective messaging and wilful compliance
55:45 – Independence/Freedom vs. Autonomy
1:00:00 – SDT and parenting
1:05:00 – Richard’s new role at the Institute of Positive Psychology
1:10:58 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Website: Center for Self-Determination Theory – https://selfdeterminationtheory.org/
For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
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May 13, 2020 • 1h 2min
Ep 25 – Physical Self-Care & Motivational Interviewing
Ep. 25 – Physical Self-Care & Motivational Interviewing
Glenn and Sebastian are excited to welcome Dr. Katie Brogan Hartlieb, PhD, RDN, (Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan) on the program to discuss physical self-care. Katie is a behaviour change specialist who has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers for over 10 years. She was recently named a Paediatric Obesity Subject Matter Expert by the Commission on Dietetic Registration. She is a part time Assistant Professor at Florida International University’s Herbert Wertheim College of Medicine, Miami, FL, where she teaches Motivational Interviewing (MI) to medical students and faculty, and part of the Functional Nutrition faculty at Parker University, Dallas, TX. Her federally and privately funded projects empower youth and families to achieve healthy lifestyles in the areas of nutrition, weight management, self-care, substance use, and HIV. Nationally, Dr. Hartlieb is a nutrition and communication consultant working with organisations like Kaiser Permanente, Michigan State University and the Great Lakes ATTC, providing training, coding, coaching and program development. She loves exploring health behaviour change with clients, learners, and organisations. Dr. Hartlieb lives in Petoskey, Michigan with her husband and two children, spending some of the winter working in Southeast Florida, so they get to enjoy ALL the seasons. She enjoys training for triathlons, experimenting in the kitchen, and connecting with nature.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
2:30 – Katie’s introduction
4:00 – Katie’s MI journey – Finding a “heart forward” way of working
6:50 – Why MI? Specificity around ways to listen, evoke, and respond
8:00 – Power differentials – Navigating in-home visits in Detroit, Michigan
15:45 – Physical self-care – Honing the instrument
19:20 – Slowing down and tuning in
24:50 – Striking a balance between body, mind, and spirit
32:40 – Listening to our cues
36:00 – Values – Caring for ourselves and others
39:00 – Supporting our kids’ self-care
43:30 – Modelling sustenance and hydration
49:45 – Cohesive self-care
58:40 – Connecting with local food sources
1:02:08 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: Kathryn.hartlieb@gmail.com
Website: https://hartliebnutrition.com/
For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Apr 6, 2020 • 1h 6min
Ep 24 – MI for Suicide Prevention
Ep 24 – MI for Suicide Prevention
For this episode of Talking to Change, ‘MI for Suicide Prevention‘, Glenn and Sebastian welcome Emma Braconier to the podcast. Emma is a social worker based in Sweden, who has worked both as a social care clinician and more recently at a strategic level planning and implementing developments across a range of social services programmes. Along with her quality development role within the child protection services Emma is also a member of the international Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and is a self-employed consultant focusing on providing MI training workshops and seminars nationally and internationally while also supporting the implementation and integration of Motivational Interviewing throughout Sweden.
Emma has volunteered for several years at Sweden’s largest suicide support-line, MIND, where she and other MI trainers also trained all the volunteers in MI with a focus on suicide prevention.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
2:00 – Emma’s introduction
4:30 – Emma’s early MI story
11:00 – Affirming the struggle
17:30 – Finding hope from the Swedish suicide statistics
25:00 – Daring to listen
41:30 – Relevant MI skills:
Eliciting “life talk”
Affirming actions
Double-sided reflections
Exploring values
58:45 – Emma enhancing her skills as trainer and parent
1:05:31 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: braconier@gmail.com
Facebook: Emma Braconier
Website: https://motiverandesamtal.weebly.com/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
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Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
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Mar 25, 2020 • 1h 1min
Ep 23 – Public Health Interventions & MI
Ep 23 – Public Health Interventions & MI
Given the challenging times to public health due to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are grateful to have Jane Groves on the podcast. Jane lives in the Scottish Highlands. She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2007. She is currently Chair of the UK & Ireland MINT Chapter, and the MINT committee Motivational Interviewing Across Cultures. She has worked as a public health and health improvement specialist in the National Health Service in Scotland and England for over 30 years, working in partnership with many different agencies and professionals both locally and nationally to change public health strategy, culture, and practice. Her work has covered areas such as health inequalities; community participation and co-production; using asset-based approaches; sexual health; child health; sexual health, and mental health. Now retired from the NHS, she provides training in many aspects of health improvement, including Motivational Interviewing; mental
health; principles and practice of health improvement, and brain-friendly learning and training design. She has developed and supported learning communities for trainers and for people working to improve the health of individuals, communities, and populations. She has championed a perspective which includes tackling the factors which cause health inequalities, such as discrimination, inequity, poverty, and powerlessness.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
4:00 – Jane’s introduction
8:00 – Social welfare responses to COVID-19
14:15 – A population health perspective: Individual behaviour AND social
determinants
17:15 – Understanding health disparities
21:45 – MI as a way to empower individuals
23:00 – Meaning and purpose as vehicles for behaviour change
27:00 – An example of a public health intervention – Breastfeeding
31:45 – Helping others as a way to help ourselves
34:45 – How MI can inform health care interventions
39:00 – Helping people own their own health care messaging
44:25 – The Rainbow Model of Health – Understanding the wider context
53:30 – Lessons to learn – Old and new
57:00 – Jane’s experience doing genealogy as a public health scientist
1:00:29 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: janegrovestraining@btinternet.com
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
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Mar 3, 2020 • 46min
Ep 22 – MI in Emergency Settings
Ep 22 – MI in Emergency Settings
We are pleased to welcome Ravi Maharajh, MA, EdS, LPC, ACS, for our next episode of Talking to Change, exploring MI in Emergency Settings. Ravi is currently the Director of Marketing and Communications for “a large community mental health system in New Jersey.” Ravi is a Licensed Professional Counsellor, having received an EdS in Marriage and Family Therapy and MA in Psychological Studies at Seton Hall University. He has been working with adults and children with severe and persistent mental illness for over 20 years. His clinical work has primarily been in a crisis/emergency setting, working for two New Jersey designated screening centres. He served as the Clinician Supervisor for Acute Psychiatric Services – Piscataway and Program Manager for the Center for Continuing Education before accepting his current role. He is an Approved Clinical Supervisor through the Center for Credentialing and Education, offering clinical supervision to candidates with their LAC and/or LPC.
In addition, Ravi has been a certified instructor for Non-Violent Crisis Intervention (CPI) from 2004-2019, training thousands of direct care staff throughout UBHC. Ravi is involved with the Trauma Informed Care & Workplace Violence Prevention committees at UBHC. He has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2016 and currently serves as the chair for the Inclusivity and Diversity Advisory Committee for MINT. He is a New Jersey certified mental health screener through the Division of Mental Health and Addiction Services. Ravi also conducts Biopsychosocial Needs Assessments through Perform Care, LLC, in New Jersey, for ages 4-21 years old. He has been working with children and families in their homes/community since 2004. In the past, Ravi has volunteered for the Piscataway Township Domestic Violence Crisis Intervention Team as an advocate and certified counsellor (2012-2019) and is a life member of the Fort Lee Volunteer Ambulance Corps, retired EMT-B (1997-2006).
0:00 – Opening/introduction
1:45 – Ravi’s introduction
6:30 – Ravi’s early MI story
10:00 – MI in brief interventions
14:50 – Finding your “authentic space” using MI skills
25:30 – Practitioner self-care
35:00 – Change talk in emergency settings
42:00 – Training for the Brooklyn half-marathon
46:29 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: ravimaharajh@gmail.com
Twitter: @RaviMaharajh
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
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Feb 17, 2020 • 1h 2min
Ep 21 – MI & Therapeutic Humour
Ep 21 MI & Therapeutic Humour
Next up we welcome Mallori DeSalle, MA, LMHC, NCC, CMHC, MATS, CPS, to discuss a topic not often viewed in conjunction with the application of MI. MI & Therapeutic Humour.
Mallori is a licensed mental health counselor, nationally certified counselor, medication-assisted treatment specialist and an internationally certified prevention specialist. Over the last 15 years working in mental health, substance abuse and prevention fields, she has worked with children, adolescents, adults, and families serving in a variety of roles including: community prevention coordinator, therapist, substance use educator and trainer.
Mallori has worked with healthcare, behavioral healthcare and community based organizations to implement substance use prevention interventions for the last decade. Since 2008, Mallori has been faculty in the Department of Applied Health Science in the School of Public Health at Indiana University, Bloomington. Within the university, Mallori serves Prevention Insights (a center at IUB) as the Director for SBIRT Implementation and Lead Motivational Interviewing (MI) Trainer. She is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and listed on the National Addiction Technology Transfer Center SBIRT Trainers’ Registry. Mallori provides training and technical support with MI, SBIRT and a variety of other substance use and mental health related areas to multidisciplinary audiences both nationally and internationally. Mallori currently is earning her certification as a humor professional through the Association for Applied and Therapeutic Humor (AATH). She is a member of the board of directors for AATH and serves as the conference chair for 2020.
Mallori DeSalle
0:00 – Opening/introduction
1:45 – Mallori’s introduction and early MI story
8:15 – Mallori’s humor story: Letting laughter be ok
12:30 – Searching for what you are good at
17:00 – What does humor mean?
20:00 – Use of humor in clinical contexts
29:00 – Laughter as catharsis, and protection
34:00 – Humor as a barrier; Responding with kindness and safety
40:00 – Humor in the context of training
52:00 – Mallori’s LAffirmations project
1:01:54 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: mdesalle@indiana.edu
Twitter: @malgaldesalle
Association for Applied and Therapeutic Humor: https://www.aath.org/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
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Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
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Jan 14, 2020 • 1h 18min
Ep 20 – MI when working with people with psychosis
Ep 20 MI when working with people with psychosis
We hope you enjoy our latest episode where we welcome Dr. Rory Allott to the program to explore using MI when working with people with a diagnosis of psychosis. Rory is a Clinical Psychologist working part-time in the National Health Service in an Early Intervention Service working with young people (14-35) and their families. Over the last 20 years he has worked in a wide range of settings including a Diabetes resource centre, drugs services and a wide range of mental health services. Rory was a therapist and researcher on the MIDAS trial (Barrowclough et al., 2010), the largest ever randomised controlled trial of a psychological intervention (MICBT) for people experiencing psychosis and misusing substances. He teaches about supervision and motivational interviewing on the Clinical Psychology Doctoral programmes at the Universities of Manchester and Liverpool. Primarily a practitioner but with a strong interest in research, Rory has an International reputation for innovation in training and has been invited to deliver several Plenary sessions on Motivational Interviewing. He has several international publications, book chapters and conference presentations on the integration of MI and cognitive behavioural therapy.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
1:45 – Rory’s introduction and early MI story
4:30 – Overview of Rory’s work with people with psychosis
9:20 – Empathy: Experiencing, learning, and expressing
18:45 – Noticing the need to shift in conversation: “The helicopter view”
27:20 – Carl Rogers’ influence on working with people with psychosis
33:45 – Risks in connection
38:45 – Acceptance for those with “tenaciously held beliefs”
45:00 – Professional well-being
50:00 – The power of a “kind face”
55:00 – A need for patience
59:40 – Offering choice in mandated situations
1:02:00 – Challenges from auditory hallucinations
1:08:45 – “Not being the worst…”
1:11:40 – Role of medication
1:17:43 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: rory.allott@gmail.com
Website: https://roryallott.com/
Short film produced by Rory and his colleagues:
#psychosisfilm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQxZCbZ97Vc
Paper mentioned during episode:
Moyers, T. B., & Miller, W. R. (2013). Is low therapist empathy toxic? Psychology of Addictive Behaviors, 27(3), 878–884. https://doi.org/10.1037/a0030274
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
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Dec 29, 2019 • 1h 2min
Ep 19 – The role of feedback in Motivational Interviewing
Ep 19 The role of feedback in Motivational Interviewing
We are excited to welcome Denise Walker to the podcast as she explores the use of feedback in Motivational Interviewing. Denise is a licensed clinical psychologist, Research Associate Professor at the University of Washington, and Director of the Innovative Programs Research Group.
A main area of her research expertise is on the development and evaluation of interventions for marijuana disorders for both adults and adolescents, utilizing brief interventions (Motivational Enhancement Therapy, MET), longer courses of treatment (MET+CBT), and more recently aftercare. She has been involved in the development and evaluation of the Teen Marijuana Check-Up (TMCU), a school-based intervention to elicit self-referral by heavy using adolescents. The TMCU has been the focus of five clinical trials and is identified as an “Evidence Based” intervention on the NREPP. Another focus of her work is on adapting the Check-Up model (a motivational enhancement therapy) to reach other high risk populations including active duty military with an alcohol disorder, active duty military with untreated PTSD, and domestic violence perpetrators.
0:00 – Opening/introductions
2:00 – Denise’s introduction and overview of her work
5:10 – Motivational Enhancement Therapy (MET) and the role of feedback
8:30 – Using normative data
14:10 – Use of MET for active duty members of military with PTSD
27:45 – Role of values in providing feedback
29:45 – The personalized feedback report
34:15 – Findings from the Teen Marijuana Check-up program
48:50 – An alternative to the “righting reflex”
53:45 – Findings from PTSD study
58:45 – Forthcoming research on use of MET for people who have experienced their first
episode of psychosis
1:02:25 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: ddwalker@uw.edu
Evidence-based practices resource center: https://www.samhsa.gov/ebp-resource-center (Formerly known as the National Registry of Evidence-Based Programs and Practices)
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
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