

Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast
Glenn Hinds & Sebastian Kaplan
Hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, Talking To Change – A Motivational Interviewing podcast, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.
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Aug 10, 2020 • 1h 2min
Ep 31 – MI in Borderline Personality Disorder interventions
We were excited to explore the use of MI in Borderline Personality Disorder interventions with Florence Chanut, MD,FRCPC (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians of Canada). Florence is an assistant professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Addiction of Université de Montréal, Québec, Canada. After her medical education at Université de Sherbrooke and her training in Psychiatry at Université de Montréal, she did a fellowship in Motivational Interviewing at the Addiction Research Program at McGill University, under the supervision of Drs Maurice Dongier and Thomas G. Brown. MI is at the core of her clinical, research and teaching interests. She is member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2004 after training with T. Moyers and S. Rollnick amongst others. Florence Chanut is a pioneer in the implementation of MI in addiction and psychiatric services in Québec (Canada). Since 2005, Florence’s clinical work is centered on severe personality disorders and addiction. She is currently head of the Personality Disorders Clinic and the Addiction consultation service for concurrent disorders at Hôpital en santé mentale Albert-Prévost, affiliated to Université of Montréal.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
3:37 – Florence’s introduction and MI background
11:47 – What is a personality disorder?
12:57 – What is Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD)?
16:00 – People with BPD “are the best teachers of MI”
20:52 – Both sides of BPD
23:27 – MI spirit when working with people with BPD
28:35 – Florence’s experiences using MI: Values, boundaries, and helpful re-frames
40:35 – Useful points of emphasis when using reflections: Matching intensity and using “containment”
52:27 – Addressing stigma towards people with BPD
58:20 – Compassion and self-compassion
1:01:48 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: chanut@umontreal.ca
Twitter: @chanutflorence
Facebook: florencechanut
For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
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Jul 25, 2020 • 50min
Ep 30 – MI and Social Work
For this episode, where we explore the integration of MI in Social Work practice, we welcomed Melinda (Mindy) Hohman, PhD, MSW, to the podcast. Mindy is Professor and Director Emeritus in the School of Social Work at San Diego State University.
Recently retired, she previously taught courses in social work practice, substance abuse treatment, and MI, both at the graduate and undergraduate level. Mindy’s research interests include substance abuse assessment and treatment services and the learning of MI. She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 1999, training community social workers, child welfare workers, probation officers, and addiction counselors, among others, across the United States and internationally. She has served as a MINT Trainer of Trainers. Mindy is the author of “Motivational Interviewing in Social Work Practice” (Guilford Press, 2015) as well as the forthcoming second edition due out in late 2020 or early 2021.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
2:20 – Peter’s introduction and MI background
8:30 – SW values and MI
12:30 – Working in child welfare settings
18:45 – Strategies for teaching MI
27:40 – SW reactance
30:00 – MI and burnout
35:00 – Context of SW education
41:20 – Mindy’s forthcoming book: “MI in Social Work Practice” (2nd edition)
46:00 – MI and contact tracing
50:24 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: mhohman@sdsu.edu
Twitter: @melindahohman
For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
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Sebastian Kaplan
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Jul 15, 2020 • 1h 3min
Ep 29 – MI in College and University Settings
We were thrilled to have Peter Rives on the podcast to discuss MI and his work with college and university students. Peter Rives holds a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, NC. Following undergrad, Peter completed three years of doctoral study in Social Psychology at the University of Delaware before embarking on 16 years of work in public behavioral health, specializing in behavior change, case management, care coordination, transitional care, and integrated care across a variety of settings. In 2013 Peter was named one of the Top 40 Business Leaders Under 40 by the Triad Business Journal and in 2014 he completed a Jim Bernstein Community Healthcare Fellowship. In 2016, Peter transitioned to his current role as the Assistant Director of Wellbeing in the Office of Wellbeing at Wake Forest University. In that role, Peter focuses on harm-reduction related to alcohol and other drugs in the university setting through prevention & education programming, brief intervention & behavior change services, and long-term recovery supports, receiving an Everfi Impact Award for Excellence in Alcohol Prevention Programming in 2019. As part of his work at the university, Peter also implemented a Motivational Interviewing training program through which he provides training and coaching to students, faculty, staff, and administrators. Peter is also currently pursuing a Master’s Degree in Social Work from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Beyond work, Peter enjoys exploring wilderness, playing guitar, gardening, cooking, and laughing with his wife, Kate and four children.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
5:00 – Peter’s introduction and MI background
14:25 – Prevention efforts in college and university settings
18:10 – MI in college and university settings
27:30 – Building a culture of engagement, trust, and authenticity
46:15 – MI learning communities on campus
51:15 – Strengthening the affirmation muscle
1:03:26 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: prives@gmail.com
For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
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Sebastian Kaplan
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Jun 30, 2020 • 58min
Ep 28 – Beyond MI: Helping Young People Change
For our next episode of Talking to Change, we go Beyond MI to explore how someone not directly in the MI world helps guide people through change. Michael Arterberry is a self-described Master Encourager and Dynamic Motivational Speaker. As a teenager, Michael was fortunate to receive guidance from positive adult role models who helped him overcome adversities and set high expectations for his future. Grateful for the role these mentors played in his own development, Michael decided to dedicate his professional life to helping people navigate the difficulties of life and launch their future into motion. For more than 25 years, he has been helping teens and adults to use what they have gone through as a catalyst for success rather than an obstacle for failure.
Michael received the 2010 USA Network’s Characters Unite Award for exceptional commitment to combating prejudice and discrimination while increasing tolerance and acceptance within the community. He is also the recipient of the 2014 100 Men of Color Award for leadership. In 2008, Michael founded Youth Voices Center, Inc. a non-profit with the mission of helping young people to become active, productive members of society by overcoming their obstacles, their history, stereotypes and even their own self-image and limiting beliefs.
Michael is the author of “Be Encouraged: 250 Days of Motivation and Encouragement”, a daily motivational book. Additional information about his struggles as a child and a debilitating spinal cord injury as an adult can be found in his wife’s book “God was Holding My Hand”.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
3:30 – Michael’s introduction: The donkey and the farmer
9:00 – Overcoming fear to create change
14:40 – Breaking cycles
23:00 – Becoming the “driver” of your life
33:30 – Michael’s program for adolescents in schools
39:30 – Empathy across cultures
54:45 – Shifting to a virtual world
58:14 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Facebook: Michael Arterberry
LinkedIn: Michael Arterberry
Website: https://www.michaelarterberry.com/
Website: https://www.youthvoicescenter.org/
Website: https://www.shakethedirtexperience.com/free-book
For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
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Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
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Jun 15, 2020 • 1h 5min
Ep 27 – Telehealth & MI
Telehealth & MI
For this episode we warmly welcomed Jordan Braciszewski, PHD, to the podcast. Jordan is a Research Scientist in the Center for Health Policy and Health Services Research at Henry Ford Health System in Detroit, MI, USA. He is also a licensed clinical psychologist and practicing clinician at Monarch Behavioral Health in the Detroit suburbs. Jordan has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers for over 10 years and often provides training, coding, and coaching services throughout Metro Detroit for a variety of organizations. As a researcher, Jordan studies the role technology can play in improving access to mental and physical health services. Often, he uses concepts and strategies from Motivational Interviewing (MI) within his technology-based approaches to improve patient engagement and success. In his role at Henry Ford, Jordan also provides MI training to medical residents, students, and staff across the health system. As a practicing psychologist, Jordan also uses MI with other empirically-supported approaches, like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, to work alongside clients to help them achieve their mental health and life goals, as he strongly believes collaboration between therapist and client is the best way to assure long-term success. Jordan lives in the Detroit suburbs with his wife and two children; he enjoys playing ice hockey, guitar, food, and exploring anything with his kids.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
1:35 – Jordan’s introduction and rationale for telehealth
7:30 – MI and Telehealth: Both ways of meeting a client where they are
9:00 – Jordan’s early MI story
13:30 – Transitioning to telehealth
16:00 – Utilizing tech in a study to support children leaving foster care
21:45 – Overcoming barriers to adopting telehealth
26:10 – Empirical support for telehealth
33:15 – Lack of notable client age-related barriers in telehealth
37:00 – More on barriers: Clinician reimbursement and client access
41:15 – Different types of “tele” and expansion of care options
49:00 – MI skills in telehealth
59:50 – Virtual schooling during the pandemic and other things on Jordan’s mind
1:04:57 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: jbracis1@hfhs.org
Twitter: @jmbrockphd
For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
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Sebastian Kaplan
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May 21, 2020 • 1h 11min
Ep 26 – Self-Determination Theory & MI
Ep. 26 – Self-Determination Theory & MI
We were thrilled to welcome Richard M. Ryan, Ph.D. onto the podcast for this exploration of Self-Determination Theory and its natural links with MI. Richard is a Professor at the Institute for Positive Psychology & Education at the Australian Catholic University and Research Professor in Psychology at the University of Rochester in New York. Richard is a clinical psychologist and co-developer of Self-Determination Theory, one of the leading theories of human motivation. Richard has published over 300 papers and books in the areas of human motivation, personality, and psychological well-being. Richard has been recognised as one of the eminent psychologists of the modern era, Post-World War II.
Richard has lectured in more than 80 universities worldwide, and consulted with numerous organisations, schools, clinics, and health-care initiatives. Recipient of distinguished career awards from multiple societies for his contributions to the field on motivation, personal meaning, and self and identity, he is also a Fellow of the American Psychological Association, the American Educational Research Association, and an Honorary Member of the German Psychological Society (DGP). He has held numerous editorial posts, including having been Editor-in-Chief of Motivation & Emotion. He has also been a James McKeen Cattell and Leverhulme Fellow, and a visiting scientist at the National Institute of Education in Singapore, the University of Bath, UK, and the Max Planck Institute, Berlin.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
2:15 – Richard’s introduction and origins of Self-Determination Theory (SDT)
6:20 – Intrinsic motivation and the importance of autonomy
8:30 – MI and SDT
12:30 – Change talk through the lens of SDT
18:30 – Shifting from internal pressure to autonomously oriented change
20:15 – The SDT continuum of motivation
23:30 – The context of mandated treatment
28:00 – Exploring sustain talk: “Embracing where they are”
33:00 – Three fundamental human needs: Autonomy, Relatedness, and Competence
40:30 – The risk of therapist ego involvement
42:10 – The ultimate therapeutic outcome: “The client’s autonomous choices”
44:45 – The paradox of outcome-driven practices across settings
50:00 – Internal or External? Not good or bad
53:20 – SDT in context of COVID19: Effective messaging and wilful compliance
55:45 – Independence/Freedom vs. Autonomy
1:00:00 – SDT and parenting
1:05:00 – Richard’s new role at the Institute of Positive Psychology
1:10:58 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Website: Center for Self-Determination Theory – https://selfdeterminationtheory.org/
For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
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Sebastian Kaplan
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May 13, 2020 • 1h 2min
Ep 25 – Physical Self-Care & Motivational Interviewing
Ep. 25 – Physical Self-Care & Motivational Interviewing
Glenn and Sebastian are excited to welcome Dr. Katie Brogan Hartlieb, PhD, RDN, (Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan) on the program to discuss physical self-care. Katie is a behaviour change specialist who has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers for over 10 years. She was recently named a Paediatric Obesity Subject Matter Expert by the Commission on Dietetic Registration. She is a part time Assistant Professor at Florida International University’s Herbert Wertheim College of Medicine, Miami, FL, where she teaches Motivational Interviewing (MI) to medical students and faculty, and part of the Functional Nutrition faculty at Parker University, Dallas, TX. Her federally and privately funded projects empower youth and families to achieve healthy lifestyles in the areas of nutrition, weight management, self-care, substance use, and HIV. Nationally, Dr. Hartlieb is a nutrition and communication consultant working with organisations like Kaiser Permanente, Michigan State University and the Great Lakes ATTC, providing training, coding, coaching and program development. She loves exploring health behaviour change with clients, learners, and organisations. Dr. Hartlieb lives in Petoskey, Michigan with her husband and two children, spending some of the winter working in Southeast Florida, so they get to enjoy ALL the seasons. She enjoys training for triathlons, experimenting in the kitchen, and connecting with nature.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
2:30 – Katie’s introduction
4:00 – Katie’s MI journey – Finding a “heart forward” way of working
6:50 – Why MI? Specificity around ways to listen, evoke, and respond
8:00 – Power differentials – Navigating in-home visits in Detroit, Michigan
15:45 – Physical self-care – Honing the instrument
19:20 – Slowing down and tuning in
24:50 – Striking a balance between body, mind, and spirit
32:40 – Listening to our cues
36:00 – Values – Caring for ourselves and others
39:00 – Supporting our kids’ self-care
43:30 – Modelling sustenance and hydration
49:45 – Cohesive self-care
58:40 – Connecting with local food sources
1:02:08 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: Kathryn.hartlieb@gmail.com
Website: https://hartliebnutrition.com/
For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Apr 6, 2020 • 1h 6min
Ep 24 – MI for Suicide Prevention
Ep 24 – MI for Suicide Prevention
For this episode of Talking to Change, ‘MI for Suicide Prevention‘, Glenn and Sebastian welcome Emma Braconier to the podcast. Emma is a social worker based in Sweden, who has worked both as a social care clinician and more recently at a strategic level planning and implementing developments across a range of social services programmes. Along with her quality development role within the child protection services Emma is also a member of the international Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and is a self-employed consultant focusing on providing MI training workshops and seminars nationally and internationally while also supporting the implementation and integration of Motivational Interviewing throughout Sweden.
Emma has volunteered for several years at Sweden’s largest suicide support-line, MIND, where she and other MI trainers also trained all the volunteers in MI with a focus on suicide prevention.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
2:00 – Emma’s introduction
4:30 – Emma’s early MI story
11:00 – Affirming the struggle
17:30 – Finding hope from the Swedish suicide statistics
25:00 – Daring to listen
41:30 – Relevant MI skills:
Eliciting “life talk”
Affirming actions
Double-sided reflections
Exploring values
58:45 – Emma enhancing her skills as trainer and parent
1:05:31 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: braconier@gmail.com
Facebook: Emma Braconier
Website: https://motiverandesamtal.weebly.com/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
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Mar 25, 2020 • 1h 1min
Ep 23 – Public Health Interventions & MI
Ep 23 – Public Health Interventions & MI
Given the challenging times to public health due to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are grateful to have Jane Groves on the podcast. Jane lives in the Scottish Highlands. She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2007. She is currently Chair of the UK & Ireland MINT Chapter, and the MINT committee Motivational Interviewing Across Cultures. She has worked as a public health and health improvement specialist in the National Health Service in Scotland and England for over 30 years, working in partnership with many different agencies and professionals both locally and nationally to change public health strategy, culture, and practice. Her work has covered areas such as health inequalities; community participation and co-production; using asset-based approaches; sexual health; child health; sexual health, and mental health. Now retired from the NHS, she provides training in many aspects of health improvement, including Motivational Interviewing; mental
health; principles and practice of health improvement, and brain-friendly learning and training design. She has developed and supported learning communities for trainers and for people working to improve the health of individuals, communities, and populations. She has championed a perspective which includes tackling the factors which cause health inequalities, such as discrimination, inequity, poverty, and powerlessness.
0:00 – Opening/introduction
4:00 – Jane’s introduction
8:00 – Social welfare responses to COVID-19
14:15 – A population health perspective: Individual behaviour AND social
determinants
17:15 – Understanding health disparities
21:45 – MI as a way to empower individuals
23:00 – Meaning and purpose as vehicles for behaviour change
27:00 – An example of a public health intervention – Breastfeeding
31:45 – Helping others as a way to help ourselves
34:45 – How MI can inform health care interventions
39:00 – Helping people own their own health care messaging
44:25 – The Rainbow Model of Health – Understanding the wider context
53:30 – Lessons to learn – Old and new
57:00 – Jane’s experience doing genealogy as a public health scientist
1:00:29 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: janegrovestraining@btinternet.com
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
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Mar 3, 2020 • 46min
Ep 22 – MI in Emergency Settings
Ep 22 – MI in Emergency Settings
We are pleased to welcome Ravi Maharajh, MA, EdS, LPC, ACS, for our next episode of Talking to Change, exploring MI in Emergency Settings. Ravi is currently the Director of Marketing and Communications for “a large community mental health system in New Jersey.” Ravi is a Licensed Professional Counsellor, having received an EdS in Marriage and Family Therapy and MA in Psychological Studies at Seton Hall University. He has been working with adults and children with severe and persistent mental illness for over 20 years. His clinical work has primarily been in a crisis/emergency setting, working for two New Jersey designated screening centres. He served as the Clinician Supervisor for Acute Psychiatric Services – Piscataway and Program Manager for the Center for Continuing Education before accepting his current role. He is an Approved Clinical Supervisor through the Center for Credentialing and Education, offering clinical supervision to candidates with their LAC and/or LPC.
In addition, Ravi has been a certified instructor for Non-Violent Crisis Intervention (CPI) from 2004-2019, training thousands of direct care staff throughout UBHC. Ravi is involved with the Trauma Informed Care & Workplace Violence Prevention committees at UBHC. He has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2016 and currently serves as the chair for the Inclusivity and Diversity Advisory Committee for MINT. He is a New Jersey certified mental health screener through the Division of Mental Health and Addiction Services. Ravi also conducts Biopsychosocial Needs Assessments through Perform Care, LLC, in New Jersey, for ages 4-21 years old. He has been working with children and families in their homes/community since 2004. In the past, Ravi has volunteered for the Piscataway Township Domestic Violence Crisis Intervention Team as an advocate and certified counsellor (2012-2019) and is a life member of the Fort Lee Volunteer Ambulance Corps, retired EMT-B (1997-2006).
0:00 – Opening/introduction
1:45 – Ravi’s introduction
6:30 – Ravi’s early MI story
10:00 – MI in brief interventions
14:50 – Finding your “authentic space” using MI skills
25:30 – Practitioner self-care
35:00 – Change talk in emergency settings
42:00 – Training for the Brooklyn half-marathon
46:29 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: ravimaharajh@gmail.com
Twitter: @RaviMaharajh
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
We welcome all donations to support us
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