Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast

Episode 41: Ethical Considerations in MI In episode 41 of TTC Podcast, Glenn and Sebastian explore Ethical Considerations in MI  with Patrick Berthiaume. Patrick studied sexology to begin his professional life in the support of people living in a reality of sex work. He worked for several years in public health in the Quebec health network. It is during these years that he learned motivational interviewing (MI) which created a real passion for him. In 2008 he received his training as a trainer and became a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) where he is very involved. His professional life is entirely devoted to MI. In 2014 he created his own training and supervision company. He has constantly deepened and strengthened his practice by attending several advanced training courses. He is involved in several research projects. He is committed to offering the quality and rigor of MI to make the helping professions more humane. He thus seeks to support the integration of this efficient approach in the French-speaking world.          0:00 – Opening/introduction          3:15 – Patrick’s introduction and early MI story          8:30 – Importance of empathy and the potential of others       17:00 – Patrick’s four conditions of MI: Change Target Ambivalence Professional Position Benevolence        24:30 – Considering neutrality       37:30 – Ethical dilemmas involving families with children at risk: What’s the                         mandate?        50:20 – Acceptance vs tolerance or approval       54:20 – Vulnerability        62:20 – End of recording  Links and contact information: Email: info@perspectivesante.com  Website: www.perspectivesante.com  For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 41 – Ethical Considerations in MI first appeared on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.The post Ep 41 – Ethical Considerations in MI appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Episode 40 – MI for youth with HIV Glenn and Sebastian were thrilled to welcome good friend Salome Nicole Cockern, PhD (Nikki) to the podcast. Nikki is a Paediatric Psychologist and Assistant Professor at Wayne State University, with extensive experience implementing health behavior change interventions for adolescents and young adults.  She is the psychologist and lifeline in the adolescent HIV clinic in Detroit, MI, and has provided clinical supervision for several research projects including Healthy Choices targeting youth living with HIV, We Test, and the  Young Men’s Health Project targeting risk behaviors and PrEP (HIV prevention medication) initiation in young men who have sex with men.  She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2004 and uses MI in clinical practice with youth in the areas of adherence, substance use, mental illness, partner violence, coping and risk reduction. In addition to supervising intervention staff on several clinical research trials, she actively trains staff in various community and state agencies, as well as train and supervise residents and other medical professionals and community health workers in MI.  Lastly, Nikki is active in several subcommittees within the MINT organization addressing inclusion and diversity among the membership and in trainings, as well as the mentoring and coaching of new members. 0:00 – Opening/introduction  1:15 – Nikki’s introduction and early MI story  8:40 – Intentionality when working with young people 11:45 – Conversations with youth to support healthy decisions 17:10 – Helping young people with HIV feel valued 20:15 – Use of affirmations 28:00 – Being mindful to be helpful 36:50 – Judgment doesn’t help 44:20 – What am I responsible for? 46:30 – Nikki rediscovering play during the pandemic 53:10 – End of recording  Links and contact information: Email: snikkcockern@gmail.com  Links and contact information: For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 40 – MI for youth with HIV first appeared on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.The post Ep 40 – MI for youth with HIV appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Ep 39 – MI with people who are homeless In exploring MI with people who are homeless, Glenn and Sebastian, warmly welcome Danny Lang, MSW to the podcast. Danny has over 25 years’ experience in the field of mental health and substance misuse.  He currently works as a registered social worker, psychotherapist at the Canadian Mental Health Association in Ottawa Canada where he provides group and individual therapy for individuals with co-occurring mental health and substance use disorders. Danny is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers and his areas of interest include homelessness, concurrent disorders and working with ale survivors of sexual abuse. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 1:10 – Danny’s introduction and early MI story 9:00 – MI Spirit as the “container” of the four processes 13:50 – Resisting the “righting reflex” 17:40 – Client feedback as evidence of effectiveness 24:00 – Self-care 27:50 – Danny’s “walk and talks” 34:30 – It’s not always about MI 42:00 – Helpful skills for helpful conversations 45:45 – Danny’s life in the martial arts 49:24 – End of recording Links and contact information: – Email: dklang46@gmail.com – Instagram: @dannylang613 Links and contact information: For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 39 – MI with people who are homeless first appeared on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.The post Ep 39 – MI with people who are homeless appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Ep 38 – MI for vaccine hesitancy Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Amanda Gabarda, EdD, MPH, NBC-HWC for a timely discussion about vaccine hesitancy. Amanda is the Senior Director of Clinical Training & Development for the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center (UPMC) Health Plan where she is responsible for designing, scaling, and evaluating evidence-based care management and health coach training, quality assurance, and coaching interventions for digital, telephonic, and in-person coaching. Her work focuses on setting a standard of excellence to positively impact health and increase patient/member engagement and activation through coaching and the use of Motivational Interviewing. She is passionate about combining coaching and behavior change science to empower individuals to live their best and healthiest lives. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 1:30 – Amanda’s introduction and early MI story 4:45 – Beyond the skills and techniques of MI 12:00 – Vaccine hesitancy 17:40 – Supporting autonomy around vaccine decision-making 26:25 – “Shoulders up” vs “shoulders down” conversations 29:30 – Literature on use of MI for vaccine hesitancy 32:40 – Ethical considerations 42:00 – Helpful skills for helpful conversations 46:45 – Choosing our words carefully 54:45 – Looking towards the digital age of health behavior change 01:00:09 – End of recording   Links and contact information: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-gabarda-edd-mph-nbc-hwc-762a7323/ [linkedin.com] For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE References Discussed: Gagneur, A., Gosselin, V., & Dubé, È. (2018). Motivational interviewing: A promising tool to address vaccine hesitancy. Vaccine, 36(44), 6553-6555. Gagneur, A., Battista, M. C., Boucher, F. D., Tapiero, B., Quach, C., De Wals, P., … & Dubé, È. (2019). Promoting vaccination in maternity wards─ motivational interview technique reduces hesitancy and enhances intention to vaccinate, results from a multicentre non-controlled pre-and post-intervention RCT-nested study, Quebec, March 2014 to February 2015. Eurosurveillance, 24(36), 1800641. Opel, D. J., Robinson, J. D., Spielvogle, H., Spina, C., Garrett, K., Dempsey, A. F., … & Taylor, J. A. (2020). ‘Presumptively Initiating Vaccines and Optimizing Talk with Motivational Interviewing’(PIVOT with MI) trial: a protocol for a cluster randomised controlled trial of a clinician vaccine communication intervention. BMJ open, 10(8), e039299. Verger, P., & Dubé, E. (2020). Restoring confidence in vaccines in the COVID-19 era. Expert Review of Vaccines, 19(11). https://doi.org/10.1080/14760584.2020.1825945  We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 38 – MI for Vaccine Hesitancy first appeared on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.The post Ep 38 – MI for Vaccine Hesitancy appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Episode 37 – MI in Puerto Rico Glenn and Sebastian warmly welcome Gabrielle Ruiz Tudó to the program. Gabrielle is a Puerto Rican, currently living in Puerto Rico. She is a Program Evaluator with a Master’s Degree in Psychology. For more than 10 years her research and community-based experience has involved counseling, training, supervision, and coordination of programs mostly aimed towards disease and substance use prevention, and most recently towards sexual violence prevention. Gabrielle first received MI training in 2006, and became a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) in 2012. Since then she has facilitated and co-facilitated training in Spanish and in English. She has been part of the Health Education and Training Institute (HETI) coding and coaching team since 2013, helping professionals become more proficient in their MI skills, both in Spanish and English. From her beginnings in MI, she has been involved in several efforts to make MI more accessible to Spanish speakers by creating and translating tools in Spanish and participating in a community of Spanish speaking MINTies. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 2:36 – Gabrielle’s introduction and MI background 6:20 – Helping clients to find their own tools and own their process 12:30 – MI in Puerto Rico 16:30 – Important cultural elements of Puerto Rico 24:10 – Adapting MI for use in Spanish 34:30 – Learning the micro-skills and macro-skills of MI 43:55 – Quarantine with family and food 48:36 – End of recording Links and contact information: -Email: gtudo96@gmail.com For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 37 – MI in Puerto Rico first appeared on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.The post Ep 37 – MI in Puerto Rico appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Psycholinguistics Glenn and Sebastian were excited about having Paul Amrhein on the podcast given his historical importance to the development of MI. Paul is presently on the faculties of Montclair State University (Professor, Psychology) in New Jersey and Columbia University (Adjunct Associate Professor, Psychiatry) in New York. An experimental psycholinguist by training, he earned his PhD in psychology at the University of Wisconsin—Madison. In 1995, as a faculty colleague at the University of New Mexico, Paul began work with Bill Miller on an exploration of the nature and role of client language evoked during MI as a predictor of substance use outcomes. Based on his dissertation work, Paul devised a process model explaining how the valence (sustain or change) and strength (weak or strong) of client commitment expressions, supported by underlying preparatory language, lead to behavioral outcomes. Since then, he has been investigating how factors of therapist training in MI and client learning ability interact to promote or impede change talk and its relationship to subsequent behavior. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 2:05 – Paul’s introduction and MI background 5:25 – The original DARRN-C coding system 9:20 – Category, valence, and strength of change language 21:00 – Double-sided reflections 23:25 – The reflection to question ratio (R:Q) 31:30 – Psycholinguistics beyond substance use conversations: “Talk is talk” 37:00 – Change talk is a construction between the client and the practitioner 44:45 – Connecting what the client says and what the client does 47:10 – How experience affects learning MI 50:25 – Re-entering normalcy, with masks 54:26 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: pa2146@columbia.edu 2003 paper citation: Amrhein, P.C., Miller, W.M., Yahne, C.E., Palmer, M., & Fulcher, L. (2003). Client commitment language during motivational interviewing predicts drug use outcomes. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 71, 862-878. DOI: 1037/0022-006X.71.5.862  For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 36 – The Psycholinguistics of MI first appeared on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.The post Ep 36 – The Psycholinguistics of MI appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

In Episode 35 ‘Experiential Motivational Interviewing’ we talk with Matt McKenzie who is a licensed professional counselor in the state of Alabama, USA, member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and a certified experiential specialist.  Matt received his Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from the University of Alabama – Birmingham in 2016 and he is currently working on his Doctoral of Philosophy at the University of Holy Cross in New Orleans, LA.  Professionally, he has applied experiential learning methods with motivational interviewing in substance abuse treatment with adjudicated adolescents, emerging adults and adults.  Matt has also seen positive outcomes of experiential motivational interviewing as a corporate educator and professional consultant when delivering teaching techniques.  He has provided training opportunities to health and wellness coaches, military personnel and mental health practitioners.  Matt recently co-authored, Experiential Motivational Interviewing:  An Action-Oriented Way of Being, with Marc Pimsler.  0:00 – Opening/introduction 2:30 – Matt’s introduction and early MI story 8:45 – Experiential practices: “We don’t laugh with our enemies” 15:40 – Experiential practices as a precursor to MI 20:15 – The “carpet tiles” exercise 28:00 – “Life’s blueprint” exercise: MI spirit through art, metaphor, and the core skills 31:30 – Healing as a creative act 36:15 – Resistance as a fear of knowing 51:40 – Meeting vulnerability with kindness 53:20 – Matt’s work on compassion fatigue in helpers 1:01:02 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: mckenzie@mckenziestrategies.com Twitter: @McKenzieMINTie Website: mckenziestrategies.com Book details: https://he.kendallhunt.com/product/experiential-motivational-interviewing-action-oriented-way-being  For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBPThe post Ep 35 – Experiential Motivational Interviewing first appeared on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.The post Ep 35 – Experiential Motivational Interviewing appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Ep. 34 – MI from an Evolutionary Perspective Dr Abilio (Bill) de Almeida Neto joined Glenn and Sebastian for this unique conversation about possible underlying evolutionary mechanisms of MI. Bill is a registered psychologist in Australia. He holds a Bachelor of Science (Psychology) with Honours from the University of New South Wales and a PhD in psychology from the University of Sydney in the area of behaviour modification for which he was awarded a university medal. Professionally, he has applied behaviour modification techniques to a wide range of areas, including alcohol and other drugs, smoking cessation, correctional rehabilitation, quality use of medicines, and work health and safety. His primary scientific interest is in mechanisms of behaviour change that account for psychotherapeutic effects. He has been guest speaker at a number of international conferences and has published extensively in scientific journals. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 4:00 – Bill’s introduction: “A long MI journey” 9:50 – Seeking a theory of MI to understand underlying mechanisms 20:38 – Why does telling people to change typically not work? 30:30 – “Our brains don’t know it’s the 21st century” 33:25 – Social hierarchy in MI conversations: Counselors taking the “lower                             place” 46:45 – Oppositional behavior as adaptive 53:24 – “It takes two to resist” 1:00:20 – The Rogerian influence on MI through an evolutionary lens 1:11:20 – MI helps deactivate unconscious mechanisms that hinder behavior change 1:19:45 – Understanding impact on clinicians 1:22:59 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: AbilioDeAlmeidaNeto@justice.nsw.gov.au            Abilio_Neto@yahoo.com.au Twitter: @billneto4 Citation for paper: de Almeida Neto, A. C. (2017). Understanding Motivational Interviewing: an Evolutionary Perspective. Evolutionary Psychological Science, DOI 10.1007/s40806-017-0096-6 For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBPThe post Ep 34 – MI from an Evolutionary Perspective first appeared on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.The post Ep 34 – MI from an Evolutionary Perspective appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Episode 33 – MI in Dietetics In this episode of the podcast, Glenn and Sebastian explore MI in Dietetics with Orla Adams. Orla is a dietitian specialising in weight management. She divides her time between delivering this service in Cardiff and Vale University Health Board and providing MI training across the UK to various disciplines.  Orla attended her first MI workshop in 2006, became a member of MINT (Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers) in 2011, and is a supportive committee member for MINT UK and Ireland.  She is currently the Chair for the Program Planning Committee for the annual international MINT Forum.  Orla is originally from Belfast, Northern Ireland and lives in Cardiff with her husband and two sons.  She loves running, baking and learning to ice skate, not very successfully. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 5:35 – Orla’s introduction and MI background 9:55 – Early lessons from the MI spirit: Empathy and acceptance 14:20 – How do we know if it is working? 19:30 – Self-discovery, skill development, and a quieter mind 23:30 – MI Applications: Selective eating 32:30 – Continued learning beyond the workshop 44:20 – Orla’s future directions: Acceptance and Commitment Therapy 50:28 – End of recording Links and contact information Email: orlaadams76@gmail.com Twitter: @orlaadams For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBPThe post Ep 33 – MI in Dietetics first appeared on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.The post Ep 33 – MI in Dietetics appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

MI in South Africa Ep 32 – MI in South Africa We are happy to share this next episode of TTC in which Dr. Goodman Sibeko joined us to discuss MI in South Africa. Goodman is a Medical Doctor with specialist training in Psychiatry. He holds a PhD in Psychiatry and serves as Head of Addiction Psychiatry at the University of Cape Town. His work has focused on interventions using non-specialist workers in the management of severe mental illness, and he has a developing research portfolio focused on task sharing models for the treatment of harmful substance use, mental health and HIV.  He serves as Co-Director of the PEPFAR and SAHMSA-funded South Africa HIV Addiction Technology Transfer Centre (ATTC). 0:00 – Opening/introduction 3:37 – Goodman’s introduction and MI background 6:00 – Understanding perspective 9:50 – Cultural factors in South Africa and how this impacts health care communication 18:00 – Power dynamics in the doctor-patient relationship 25:30 – Ambivalence that arises from power imbalance 29:00 – Practitioners’ willingness to shift practice 34:00 – Being a “guide on the side” 48:30 – How to engage with others to counter toxic communication 52:58 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: goodman.sibeko@uct.ac.za Twitter: @DrGSibeko ATTC: https://attcnetwork.org/centers/south-africa-hiv-attc/meet-south-africa-hiv-attc-team University of Cape Town: http://www.psychiatry.uct.ac.za/psych/addiction-psychiatry For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBPThe post Ep 32 – MI in South Africa first appeared on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.The post Ep 32 – MI in South Africa appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.