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Sep 28, 2020 • 1h 23min

Ep 34 – MI from an Evolutionary Perspective

Ep. 34 – MI from an Evolutionary Perspective Dr Abilio (Bill) de Almeida Neto joined Glenn and Sebastian for this unique conversation about possible underlying evolutionary mechanisms of MI. Bill is a registered psychologist in Australia. He holds a Bachelor of Science (Psychology) with Honours from the University of New South Wales and a PhD in psychology from the University of Sydney in the area of behaviour modification for which he was awarded a university medal. Professionally, he has applied behaviour modification techniques to a wide range of areas, including alcohol and other drugs, smoking cessation, correctional rehabilitation, quality use of medicines, and work health and safety. His primary scientific interest is in mechanisms of behaviour change that account for psychotherapeutic effects. He has been guest speaker at a number of international conferences and has published extensively in scientific journals. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 4:00 – Bill’s introduction: “A long MI journey” 9:50 – Seeking a theory of MI to understand underlying mechanisms 20:38 – Why does telling people to change typically not work? 30:30 – “Our brains don’t know it’s the 21st century” 33:25 – Social hierarchy in MI conversations: Counselors taking the “lower                             place” 46:45 – Oppositional behavior as adaptive 53:24 – “It takes two to resist” 1:00:20 – The Rogerian influence on MI through an evolutionary lens 1:11:20 – MI helps deactivate unconscious mechanisms that hinder behavior change 1:19:45 – Understanding impact on clinicians 1:22:59 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: AbilioDeAlmeidaNeto@justice.nsw.gov.au            Abilio_Neto@yahoo.com.au Twitter: @billneto4 Citation for paper: de Almeida Neto, A. C. (2017). Understanding Motivational Interviewing: an Evolutionary Perspective. Evolutionary Psychological Science, DOI 10.1007/s40806-017-0096-6 For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 34 – MI from an Evolutionary Perspective appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Sep 10, 2020 • 50min

Ep 33 – MI in Dietetics

Episode 33 – MI in Dietetics In this episode of the podcast, Glenn and Sebastian explore MI in Dietetics with Orla Adams. Orla is a dietitian specialising in weight management. She divides her time between delivering this service in Cardiff and Vale University Health Board and providing MI training across the UK to various disciplines.  Orla attended her first MI workshop in 2006, became a member of MINT (Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers) in 2011, and is a supportive committee member for MINT UK and Ireland.  She is currently the Chair for the Program Planning Committee for the annual international MINT Forum.  Orla is originally from Belfast, Northern Ireland and lives in Cardiff with her husband and two sons.  She loves running, baking and learning to ice skate, not very successfully. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 5:35 – Orla’s introduction and MI background 9:55 – Early lessons from the MI spirit: Empathy and acceptance 14:20 – How do we know if it is working? 19:30 – Self-discovery, skill development, and a quieter mind 23:30 – MI Applications: Selective eating 32:30 – Continued learning beyond the workshop 44:20 – Orla’s future directions: Acceptance and Commitment Therapy 50:28 – End of recording Links and contact information Email: orlaadams76@gmail.com Twitter: @orlaadams For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 33 – MI in Dietetics appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Aug 24, 2020 • 53min

Ep 32 – MI in South Africa

MI in South Africa Ep 32 – MI in South Africa We are happy to share this next episode of TTC in which Dr. Goodman Sibeko joined us to discuss MI in South Africa. Goodman is a Medical Doctor with specialist training in Psychiatry. He holds a PhD in Psychiatry and serves as Head of Addiction Psychiatry at the University of Cape Town. His work has focused on interventions using non-specialist workers in the management of severe mental illness, and he has a developing research portfolio focused on task sharing models for the treatment of harmful substance use, mental health and HIV.  He serves as Co-Director of the PEPFAR and SAHMSA-funded South Africa HIV Addiction Technology Transfer Centre (ATTC). 0:00 – Opening/introduction 3:37 – Goodman’s introduction and MI background 6:00 – Understanding perspective 9:50 – Cultural factors in South Africa and how this impacts health care communication 18:00 – Power dynamics in the doctor-patient relationship 25:30 – Ambivalence that arises from power imbalance 29:00 – Practitioners’ willingness to shift practice 34:00 – Being a “guide on the side” 48:30 – How to engage with others to counter toxic communication 52:58 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: goodman.sibeko@uct.ac.za Twitter: @DrGSibeko ATTC: https://attcnetwork.org/centers/south-africa-hiv-attc/meet-south-africa-hiv-attc-team University of Cape Town: http://www.psychiatry.uct.ac.za/psych/addiction-psychiatry For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 32 – MI in South Africa appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Aug 10, 2020 • 1h 2min

Ep 31 – MI in Borderline Personality Disorder interventions

We were excited to explore the use of MI in Borderline Personality Disorder interventions with Florence Chanut, MD,FRCPC (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians of Canada). Florence is an assistant professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Addiction of Université de Montréal, Québec, Canada. After her medical education at Université de Sherbrooke and her training in Psychiatry at Université de Montréal, she did a fellowship in Motivational Interviewing at the Addiction Research Program at McGill University, under the supervision of Drs Maurice Dongier and Thomas G. Brown. MI is at the core of her clinical, research and teaching interests. She is member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2004 after training with T. Moyers and S. Rollnick amongst others. Florence Chanut is a pioneer in the implementation of MI in addiction and psychiatric services in Québec (Canada). Since 2005, Florence’s clinical work is centered on severe personality disorders and addiction. She is currently head of the Personality Disorders Clinic and the Addiction consultation service for concurrent disorders at Hôpital en santé mentale Albert-Prévost, affiliated to Université of Montréal. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 3:37 – Florence’s introduction and MI background 11:47 – What is a personality disorder? 12:57 – What is Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD)? 16:00 – People with BPD “are the best teachers of MI” 20:52 – Both sides of BPD 23:27 – MI spirit when working with people with BPD 28:35 – Florence’s experiences using MI: Values, boundaries, and helpful re-frames 40:35 – Useful points of emphasis when using reflections: Matching intensity and using “containment” 52:27 – Addressing stigma towards people with BPD 58:20 – Compassion and self-compassion 1:01:48 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: chanut@umontreal.ca Twitter: @chanutflorence Facebook: florencechanut For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 31 – MI in Borderline Personality Disorder interventions appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Jul 25, 2020 • 50min

Ep 30 – MI and Social Work

For this episode, where we explore the integration of MI in Social Work practice, we welcomed Melinda (Mindy) Hohman, PhD, MSW, to the podcast. Mindy is Professor and Director Emeritus in the School of Social Work at San Diego State University. Recently retired, she previously taught courses in social work practice, substance abuse treatment, and MI, both at the graduate and undergraduate level. Mindy’s research interests include substance abuse assessment and treatment services and the learning of MI. She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 1999, training community social workers, child welfare workers, probation officers, and addiction counselors, among others, across the United States and internationally. She has served as a MINT Trainer of Trainers. Mindy is the author of “Motivational Interviewing in Social Work Practice” (Guilford Press, 2015) as well as the forthcoming second edition due out in late 2020 or early 2021.   0:00 – Opening/introduction 2:20 – Peter’s introduction and MI background 8:30 – SW values and MI 12:30 – Working in child welfare settings 18:45 – Strategies for teaching MI 27:40 – SW reactance 30:00 – MI and burnout 35:00 – Context of SW education 41:20 – Mindy’s forthcoming book: “MI in Social Work Practice” (2nd edition) 46:00 – MI and contact tracing 50:24 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: mhohman@sdsu.edu Twitter: @melindahohman   For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 30 – MI and Social Work appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Jul 15, 2020 • 1h 3min

Ep 29 – MI in College and University Settings

We were thrilled to have Peter Rives on the podcast to discuss MI and his work with college and university students. Peter Rives holds a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, NC. Following undergrad, Peter completed three years of doctoral study in Social Psychology at the University of Delaware before embarking on 16 years of work in public behavioral health, specializing in behavior change, case management, care coordination, transitional care, and integrated care across a variety of settings. In 2013 Peter was named one of the Top 40 Business Leaders Under 40 by the Triad Business Journal and in 2014 he completed a Jim Bernstein Community Healthcare Fellowship. In 2016, Peter transitioned to his current role as the Assistant Director of Wellbeing in the Office of Wellbeing at Wake Forest University. In that role, Peter focuses on harm-reduction related to alcohol and other drugs in the university setting through prevention & education programming, brief intervention & behavior change services, and long-term recovery supports, receiving an Everfi Impact Award for Excellence in Alcohol Prevention Programming in 2019. As part of his work at the university, Peter also implemented a Motivational Interviewing training program through which he provides training and coaching to students, faculty, staff, and administrators. Peter is also currently pursuing a Master’s Degree in Social Work from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Beyond work, Peter enjoys exploring wilderness, playing guitar, gardening, cooking, and laughing with his wife, Kate and four children.   0:00 – Opening/introduction 5:00 – Peter’s introduction and MI background 14:25 – Prevention efforts in college and university settings 18:10 – MI in college and university settings 27:30 – Building a culture of engagement, trust, and authenticity 46:15 – MI learning communities on campus 51:15 – Strengthening the affirmation muscle 1:03:26 – End of recording   Links and contact information: Email: prives@gmail.com For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 29 – MI in College and University Settings appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Jun 30, 2020 • 58min

Ep 28 – Beyond MI: Helping Young People Change

For our next episode of Talking to Change, we go Beyond MI to explore how someone not directly in the MI world helps guide people through change. Michael Arterberry is a self-described Master Encourager and Dynamic Motivational Speaker. As a teenager, Michael was fortunate to receive guidance from positive adult role models who helped him overcome adversities and set high expectations for his future. Grateful for the role these mentors played in his own development, Michael decided to dedicate his professional life to helping people navigate the difficulties of life and launch their future into motion. For more than 25 years, he has been helping teens and adults to use what they have gone through as a catalyst for success rather than an obstacle for failure. Michael received the 2010 USA Network’s Characters Unite Award for exceptional commitment to combating prejudice and discrimination while increasing tolerance and acceptance within the community. He is also the recipient of the 2014 100 Men of Color Award for leadership. In 2008, Michael founded Youth Voices Center, Inc. a non-profit with the mission of helping young people to become active, productive members of society by overcoming their obstacles, their history, stereotypes and even their own self-image and limiting beliefs. Michael is the author of “Be Encouraged: 250 Days of Motivation and Encouragement”, a daily motivational book. Additional information about his struggles as a child and a debilitating spinal cord injury as an adult can be found in his wife’s book “God was Holding My Hand”. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 3:30 – Michael’s introduction: The donkey and the farmer 9:00 – Overcoming fear to create change 14:40 – Breaking cycles 23:00 – Becoming the “driver” of your life 33:30 – Michael’s program for adolescents in schools 39:30 – Empathy across cultures 54:45 – Shifting to a virtual world 58:14 – End of recording Links and contact information: Facebook: Michael Arterberry LinkedIn: Michael Arterberry Website: https://www.michaelarterberry.com/ Website: https://www.youthvoicescenter.org/ Website: https://www.shakethedirtexperience.com/free-book   For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 28 – Beyond MI: Helping Young People Change appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Jun 15, 2020 • 1h 5min

Ep 27 – Telehealth & MI

Telehealth & MI For this episode we warmly welcomed Jordan Braciszewski, PHD, to the podcast. Jordan is a Research Scientist in the Center for Health Policy and Health Services Research at Henry Ford Health System in Detroit, MI, USA. He is also a licensed clinical psychologist and practicing clinician at Monarch Behavioral Health in the Detroit suburbs. Jordan has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers for over 10 years and often provides training, coding, and coaching services throughout Metro Detroit for a variety of organizations. As a researcher, Jordan studies the role technology can play in improving access to mental and physical health services. Often, he uses concepts and strategies from Motivational Interviewing (MI) within his technology-based approaches to improve patient engagement and success. In his role at Henry Ford, Jordan also provides MI training to medical residents, students, and staff across the health system. As a practicing psychologist, Jordan also uses MI with other empirically-supported approaches, like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, to work alongside clients to help them achieve their mental health and life goals, as he strongly believes collaboration between therapist and client is the best way to assure long-term success. Jordan lives in the Detroit suburbs with his wife and two children; he enjoys playing ice hockey, guitar, food, and exploring anything with his kids.   0:00 – Opening/introduction 1:35 – Jordan’s introduction and rationale for telehealth 7:30 – MI and Telehealth: Both ways of meeting a client where they are 9:00 – Jordan’s early MI story 13:30 – Transitioning to telehealth 16:00 – Utilizing tech in a study to support children leaving foster care 21:45 – Overcoming barriers to adopting telehealth 26:10 – Empirical support for telehealth 33:15 – Lack of notable client age-related barriers in telehealth 37:00 – More on barriers: Clinician reimbursement and client access 41:15 – Different types of “tele” and expansion of care options 49:00 – MI skills in telehealth 59:50 – Virtual schooling during the pandemic and other things on Jordan’s mind 1:04:57 – End of recording   Links and contact information: Email: jbracis1@hfhs.org Twitter: @jmbrockphd For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 27 – Telehealth & MI appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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May 21, 2020 • 1h 11min

Ep 26 – Self-Determination Theory & MI

Ep. 26 – Self-Determination Theory & MI We were thrilled to welcome Richard M. Ryan, Ph.D. onto the podcast for this exploration of Self-Determination Theory and its natural links with MI. Richard is a Professor at the Institute for Positive Psychology & Education at the Australian Catholic University and Research Professor in Psychology at the University of Rochester in New York. Richard is a clinical psychologist and co-developer of Self-Determination Theory, one of the leading theories of human motivation. Richard has published over 300 papers and books in the areas of human motivation, personality, and psychological well-being. Richard has been recognised as one of the eminent psychologists of the modern era, Post-World War II. Richard has lectured in more than 80 universities worldwide, and consulted with numerous organisations, schools, clinics, and health-care initiatives. Recipient of distinguished career awards from multiple societies for his contributions to the field on motivation, personal meaning, and self and identity, he is also a Fellow of the American Psychological Association, the American Educational Research Association, and an Honorary Member of the German Psychological Society (DGP). He has held numerous editorial posts, including having been Editor-in-Chief of Motivation & Emotion. He has also been a James McKeen Cattell and Leverhulme Fellow, and a visiting scientist at the National Institute of Education in Singapore, the University of Bath, UK, and the Max Planck Institute, Berlin. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 2:15 – Richard’s introduction and origins of Self-Determination Theory (SDT) 6:20 – Intrinsic motivation and the importance of autonomy 8:30 – MI and SDT 12:30 – Change talk through the lens of SDT 18:30 – Shifting from internal pressure to autonomously oriented change 20:15 – The SDT continuum of motivation 23:30 – The context of mandated treatment 28:00 – Exploring sustain talk: “Embracing where they are” 33:00 – Three fundamental human needs: Autonomy, Relatedness, and Competence 40:30 – The risk of therapist ego involvement 42:10 – The ultimate therapeutic outcome: “The client’s autonomous choices” 44:45 – The paradox of outcome-driven practices across settings 50:00 – Internal or External? Not good or bad 53:20 – SDT in context of COVID19: Effective messaging and wilful compliance 55:45 – Independence/Freedom vs. Autonomy 1:00:00 – SDT and parenting 1:05:00 – Richard’s new role at the Institute of Positive Psychology 1:10:58 – End of recording   Links and contact information: Website: Center for Self-Determination Theory – https://selfdeterminationtheory.org/ For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  GBP   The post Ep 26 – Self-Determination Theory & MI appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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May 13, 2020 • 1h 2min

Ep 25 – Physical Self-Care & Motivational Interviewing

Ep. 25 – Physical Self-Care & Motivational Interviewing Glenn and Sebastian are excited to welcome Dr. Katie Brogan Hartlieb, PhD, RDN, (Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan) on the program to discuss physical self-care. Katie is a behaviour change specialist who has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers for over 10 years. She was recently named a Paediatric Obesity Subject Matter Expert by the Commission on Dietetic Registration. She is a part time Assistant Professor at Florida International University’s Herbert Wertheim College of Medicine, Miami, FL, where she teaches Motivational Interviewing (MI) to medical students and faculty, and part of the Functional Nutrition faculty at Parker University, Dallas, TX.  Her federally and privately funded projects empower youth and families to achieve healthy lifestyles in the areas of nutrition, weight management, self-care, substance use, and HIV.  Nationally, Dr. Hartlieb is a nutrition and communication consultant working with organisations like Kaiser Permanente, Michigan State University and the Great Lakes ATTC, providing training, coding, coaching and program development.  She loves exploring health behaviour change with clients, learners, and organisations.  Dr. Hartlieb lives in Petoskey, Michigan with her husband and two children, spending some of the winter working in Southeast Florida, so they get to enjoy ALL the seasons.  She enjoys training for triathlons, experimenting in the kitchen, and connecting with nature. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 2:30 – Katie’s introduction 4:00 – Katie’s MI journey – Finding a “heart forward” way of working 6:50 – Why MI? Specificity around ways to listen, evoke, and respond 8:00 – Power differentials – Navigating in-home visits in Detroit, Michigan 15:45 – Physical self-care – Honing the instrument 19:20 – Slowing down and tuning in 24:50 – Striking a balance between body, mind, and spirit 32:40 – Listening to our cues 36:00 – Values – Caring for ourselves and others 39:00 – Supporting our kids’ self-care 43:30 – Modelling sustenance and hydration 49:45 – Cohesive self-care 58:40 – Connecting with local food sources 1:02:08 – End of recording   Links and contact information:   Email: Kathryn.hartlieb@gmail.com Website: https://hartliebnutrition.com/ For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com The post Ep 25 – Physical Self-Care & Motivational Interviewing appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

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