Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast

Ep 38 – MI for vaccine hesitancy Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Amanda Gabarda, EdD, MPH, NBC-HWC for a timely discussion about vaccine hesitancy. Amanda is the Senior Director of Clinical Training & Development for the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center (UPMC) Health Plan where she is responsible for designing, scaling, and evaluating evidence-based care management and health coach training, quality assurance, and coaching interventions for digital, telephonic, and in-person coaching. Her work focuses on setting a standard of excellence to positively impact health and increase patient/member engagement and activation through coaching and the use of Motivational Interviewing. She is passionate about combining coaching and behavior change science to empower individuals to live their best and healthiest lives. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 1:30 – Amanda’s introduction and early MI story 4:45 – Beyond the skills and techniques of MI 12:00 – Vaccine hesitancy 17:40 – Supporting autonomy around vaccine decision-making 26:25 – “Shoulders up” vs “shoulders down” conversations 29:30 – Literature on use of MI for vaccine hesitancy 32:40 – Ethical considerations 42:00 – Helpful skills for helpful conversations 46:45 – Choosing our words carefully 54:45 – Looking towards the digital age of health behavior change 01:00:09 – End of recording   Links and contact information: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-gabarda-edd-mph-nbc-hwc-762a7323/ [linkedin.com] For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE References Discussed: Gagneur, A., Gosselin, V., & Dubé, È. (2018). Motivational interviewing: A promising tool to address vaccine hesitancy. Vaccine, 36(44), 6553-6555. Gagneur, A., Battista, M. C., Boucher, F. D., Tapiero, B., Quach, C., De Wals, P., … & Dubé, È. (2019). Promoting vaccination in maternity wards─ motivational interview technique reduces hesitancy and enhances intention to vaccinate, results from a multicentre non-controlled pre-and post-intervention RCT-nested study, Quebec, March 2014 to February 2015. Eurosurveillance, 24(36), 1800641. Opel, D. J., Robinson, J. D., Spielvogle, H., Spina, C., Garrett, K., Dempsey, A. F., … & Taylor, J. A. (2020). ‘Presumptively Initiating Vaccines and Optimizing Talk with Motivational Interviewing’(PIVOT with MI) trial: a protocol for a cluster randomised controlled trial of a clinician vaccine communication intervention. BMJ open, 10(8), e039299. Verger, P., & Dubé, E. (2020). Restoring confidence in vaccines in the COVID-19 era. Expert Review of Vaccines, 19(11). https://doi.org/10.1080/14760584.2020.1825945  We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 38 – MI for Vaccine Hesitancy appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Episode 37 – MI in Puerto Rico Glenn and Sebastian warmly welcome Gabrielle Ruiz Tudó to the program. Gabrielle is a Puerto Rican, currently living in Puerto Rico. She is a Program Evaluator with a Master’s Degree in Psychology. For more than 10 years her research and community-based experience has involved counseling, training, supervision, and coordination of programs mostly aimed towards disease and substance use prevention, and most recently towards sexual violence prevention. Gabrielle first received MI training in 2006, and became a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) in 2012. Since then she has facilitated and co-facilitated training in Spanish and in English. She has been part of the Health Education and Training Institute (HETI) coding and coaching team since 2013, helping professionals become more proficient in their MI skills, both in Spanish and English. From her beginnings in MI, she has been involved in several efforts to make MI more accessible to Spanish speakers by creating and translating tools in Spanish and participating in a community of Spanish speaking MINTies. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 2:36 – Gabrielle’s introduction and MI background 6:20 – Helping clients to find their own tools and own their process 12:30 – MI in Puerto Rico 16:30 – Important cultural elements of Puerto Rico 24:10 – Adapting MI for use in Spanish 34:30 – Learning the micro-skills and macro-skills of MI 43:55 – Quarantine with family and food 48:36 – End of recording Links and contact information: -Email: gtudo96@gmail.com For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 37 – MI in Puerto Rico appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Psycholinguistics Glenn and Sebastian were excited about having Paul Amrhein on the podcast given his historical importance to the development of MI. Paul is presently on the faculties of Montclair State University (Professor, Psychology) in New Jersey and Columbia University (Adjunct Associate Professor, Psychiatry) in New York. An experimental psycholinguist by training, he earned his PhD in psychology at the University of Wisconsin—Madison. In 1995, as a faculty colleague at the University of New Mexico, Paul began work with Bill Miller on an exploration of the nature and role of client language evoked during MI as a predictor of substance use outcomes. Based on his dissertation work, Paul devised a process model explaining how the valence (sustain or change) and strength (weak or strong) of client commitment expressions, supported by underlying preparatory language, lead to behavioral outcomes. Since then, he has been investigating how factors of therapist training in MI and client learning ability interact to promote or impede change talk and its relationship to subsequent behavior. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 2:05 – Paul’s introduction and MI background 5:25 – The original DARRN-C coding system 9:20 – Category, valence, and strength of change language 21:00 – Double-sided reflections 23:25 – The reflection to question ratio (R:Q) 31:30 – Psycholinguistics beyond substance use conversations: “Talk is talk” 37:00 – Change talk is a construction between the client and the practitioner 44:45 – Connecting what the client says and what the client does 47:10 – How experience affects learning MI 50:25 – Re-entering normalcy, with masks 54:26 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: pa2146@columbia.edu 2003 paper citation: Amrhein, P.C., Miller, W.M., Yahne, C.E., Palmer, M., & Fulcher, L. (2003). Client commitment language during motivational interviewing predicts drug use outcomes. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 71, 862-878. DOI: 1037/0022-006X.71.5.862  For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 36 – The Psycholinguistics of MI appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

In Episode 35 ‘Experiential Motivational Interviewing’ we talk with Matt McKenzie who is a licensed professional counselor in the state of Alabama, USA, member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and a certified experiential specialist.  Matt received his Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from the University of Alabama – Birmingham in 2016 and he is currently working on his Doctoral of Philosophy at the University of Holy Cross in New Orleans, LA.  Professionally, he has applied experiential learning methods with motivational interviewing in substance abuse treatment with adjudicated adolescents, emerging adults and adults.  Matt has also seen positive outcomes of experiential motivational interviewing as a corporate educator and professional consultant when delivering teaching techniques.  He has provided training opportunities to health and wellness coaches, military personnel and mental health practitioners.  Matt recently co-authored, Experiential Motivational Interviewing:  An Action-Oriented Way of Being, with Marc Pimsler.  0:00 – Opening/introduction 2:30 – Matt’s introduction and early MI story 8:45 – Experiential practices: “We don’t laugh with our enemies” 15:40 – Experiential practices as a precursor to MI 20:15 – The “carpet tiles” exercise 28:00 – “Life’s blueprint” exercise: MI spirit through art, metaphor, and the core skills 31:30 – Healing as a creative act 36:15 – Resistance as a fear of knowing 51:40 – Meeting vulnerability with kindness 53:20 – Matt’s work on compassion fatigue in helpers 1:01:02 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: mckenzie@mckenziestrategies.com Twitter: @McKenzieMINTie Website: mckenziestrategies.com Book details: https://he.kendallhunt.com/product/experiential-motivational-interviewing-action-oriented-way-being  For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 35 – Experiential Motivational Interviewing appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Ep. 34 – MI from an Evolutionary Perspective Dr Abilio (Bill) de Almeida Neto joined Glenn and Sebastian for this unique conversation about possible underlying evolutionary mechanisms of MI. Bill is a registered psychologist in Australia. He holds a Bachelor of Science (Psychology) with Honours from the University of New South Wales and a PhD in psychology from the University of Sydney in the area of behaviour modification for which he was awarded a university medal. Professionally, he has applied behaviour modification techniques to a wide range of areas, including alcohol and other drugs, smoking cessation, correctional rehabilitation, quality use of medicines, and work health and safety. His primary scientific interest is in mechanisms of behaviour change that account for psychotherapeutic effects. He has been guest speaker at a number of international conferences and has published extensively in scientific journals. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 4:00 – Bill’s introduction: “A long MI journey” 9:50 – Seeking a theory of MI to understand underlying mechanisms 20:38 – Why does telling people to change typically not work? 30:30 – “Our brains don’t know it’s the 21st century” 33:25 – Social hierarchy in MI conversations: Counselors taking the “lower                             place” 46:45 – Oppositional behavior as adaptive 53:24 – “It takes two to resist” 1:00:20 – The Rogerian influence on MI through an evolutionary lens 1:11:20 – MI helps deactivate unconscious mechanisms that hinder behavior change 1:19:45 – Understanding impact on clinicians 1:22:59 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: AbilioDeAlmeidaNeto@justice.nsw.gov.au            Abilio_Neto@yahoo.com.au Twitter: @billneto4 Citation for paper: de Almeida Neto, A. C. (2017). Understanding Motivational Interviewing: an Evolutionary Perspective. Evolutionary Psychological Science, DOI 10.1007/s40806-017-0096-6 For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 34 – MI from an Evolutionary Perspective appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Episode 33 – MI in Dietetics In this episode of the podcast, Glenn and Sebastian explore MI in Dietetics with Orla Adams. Orla is a dietitian specialising in weight management. She divides her time between delivering this service in Cardiff and Vale University Health Board and providing MI training across the UK to various disciplines.  Orla attended her first MI workshop in 2006, became a member of MINT (Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers) in 2011, and is a supportive committee member for MINT UK and Ireland.  She is currently the Chair for the Program Planning Committee for the annual international MINT Forum.  Orla is originally from Belfast, Northern Ireland and lives in Cardiff with her husband and two sons.  She loves running, baking and learning to ice skate, not very successfully. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 5:35 – Orla’s introduction and MI background 9:55 – Early lessons from the MI spirit: Empathy and acceptance 14:20 – How do we know if it is working? 19:30 – Self-discovery, skill development, and a quieter mind 23:30 – MI Applications: Selective eating 32:30 – Continued learning beyond the workshop 44:20 – Orla’s future directions: Acceptance and Commitment Therapy 50:28 – End of recording Links and contact information Email: orlaadams76@gmail.com Twitter: @orlaadams For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 33 – MI in Dietetics appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

MI in South Africa Ep 32 – MI in South Africa We are happy to share this next episode of TTC in which Dr. Goodman Sibeko joined us to discuss MI in South Africa. Goodman is a Medical Doctor with specialist training in Psychiatry. He holds a PhD in Psychiatry and serves as Head of Addiction Psychiatry at the University of Cape Town. His work has focused on interventions using non-specialist workers in the management of severe mental illness, and he has a developing research portfolio focused on task sharing models for the treatment of harmful substance use, mental health and HIV.  He serves as Co-Director of the PEPFAR and SAHMSA-funded South Africa HIV Addiction Technology Transfer Centre (ATTC). 0:00 – Opening/introduction 3:37 – Goodman’s introduction and MI background 6:00 – Understanding perspective 9:50 – Cultural factors in South Africa and how this impacts health care communication 18:00 – Power dynamics in the doctor-patient relationship 25:30 – Ambivalence that arises from power imbalance 29:00 – Practitioners’ willingness to shift practice 34:00 – Being a “guide on the side” 48:30 – How to engage with others to counter toxic communication 52:58 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: goodman.sibeko@uct.ac.za Twitter: @DrGSibeko ATTC: https://attcnetwork.org/centers/south-africa-hiv-attc/meet-south-africa-hiv-attc-team University of Cape Town: http://www.psychiatry.uct.ac.za/psych/addiction-psychiatry For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 32 – MI in South Africa appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

We were excited to explore the use of MI in Borderline Personality Disorder interventions with Florence Chanut, MD,FRCPC (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians of Canada). Florence is an assistant professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Addiction of Université de Montréal, Québec, Canada. After her medical education at Université de Sherbrooke and her training in Psychiatry at Université de Montréal, she did a fellowship in Motivational Interviewing at the Addiction Research Program at McGill University, under the supervision of Drs Maurice Dongier and Thomas G. Brown. MI is at the core of her clinical, research and teaching interests. She is member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2004 after training with T. Moyers and S. Rollnick amongst others. Florence Chanut is a pioneer in the implementation of MI in addiction and psychiatric services in Québec (Canada). Since 2005, Florence’s clinical work is centered on severe personality disorders and addiction. She is currently head of the Personality Disorders Clinic and the Addiction consultation service for concurrent disorders at Hôpital en santé mentale Albert-Prévost, affiliated to Université of Montréal. 0:00 – Opening/introduction 3:37 – Florence’s introduction and MI background 11:47 – What is a personality disorder? 12:57 – What is Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD)? 16:00 – People with BPD “are the best teachers of MI” 20:52 – Both sides of BPD 23:27 – MI spirit when working with people with BPD 28:35 – Florence’s experiences using MI: Values, boundaries, and helpful re-frames 40:35 – Useful points of emphasis when using reflections: Matching intensity and using “containment” 52:27 – Addressing stigma towards people with BPD 58:20 – Compassion and self-compassion 1:01:48 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: chanut@umontreal.ca Twitter: @chanutflorence Facebook: florencechanut For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 31 – MI in Borderline Personality Disorder interventions appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

For this episode, where we explore the integration of MI in Social Work practice, we welcomed Melinda (Mindy) Hohman, PhD, MSW, to the podcast. Mindy is Professor and Director Emeritus in the School of Social Work at San Diego State University. Recently retired, she previously taught courses in social work practice, substance abuse treatment, and MI, both at the graduate and undergraduate level. Mindy’s research interests include substance abuse assessment and treatment services and the learning of MI. She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 1999, training community social workers, child welfare workers, probation officers, and addiction counselors, among others, across the United States and internationally. She has served as a MINT Trainer of Trainers. Mindy is the author of “Motivational Interviewing in Social Work Practice” (Guilford Press, 2015) as well as the forthcoming second edition due out in late 2020 or early 2021.   0:00 – Opening/introduction 2:20 – Peter’s introduction and MI background 8:30 – SW values and MI 12:30 – Working in child welfare settings 18:45 – Strategies for teaching MI 27:40 – SW reactance 30:00 – MI and burnout 35:00 – Context of SW education 41:20 – Mindy’s forthcoming book: “MI in Social Work Practice” (2nd edition) 46:00 – MI and contact tracing 50:24 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: mhohman@sdsu.edu Twitter: @melindahohman   For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 30 – MI and Social Work appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

We were thrilled to have Peter Rives on the podcast to discuss MI and his work with college and university students. Peter Rives holds a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, NC. Following undergrad, Peter completed three years of doctoral study in Social Psychology at the University of Delaware before embarking on 16 years of work in public behavioral health, specializing in behavior change, case management, care coordination, transitional care, and integrated care across a variety of settings. In 2013 Peter was named one of the Top 40 Business Leaders Under 40 by the Triad Business Journal and in 2014 he completed a Jim Bernstein Community Healthcare Fellowship. In 2016, Peter transitioned to his current role as the Assistant Director of Wellbeing in the Office of Wellbeing at Wake Forest University. In that role, Peter focuses on harm-reduction related to alcohol and other drugs in the university setting through prevention & education programming, brief intervention & behavior change services, and long-term recovery supports, receiving an Everfi Impact Award for Excellence in Alcohol Prevention Programming in 2019. As part of his work at the university, Peter also implemented a Motivational Interviewing training program through which he provides training and coaching to students, faculty, staff, and administrators. Peter is also currently pursuing a Master’s Degree in Social Work from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Beyond work, Peter enjoys exploring wilderness, playing guitar, gardening, cooking, and laughing with his wife, Kate and four children.   0:00 – Opening/introduction 5:00 – Peter’s introduction and MI background 14:25 – Prevention efforts in college and university settings 18:10 – MI in college and university settings 27:30 – Building a culture of engagement, trust, and authenticity 46:15 – MI learning communities on campus 51:15 – Strengthening the affirmation muscle 1:03:26 – End of recording   Links and contact information: Email: prives@gmail.com For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 29 – MI in College and University Settings appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.