

Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast
Glenn Hinds & Sebastian Kaplan
Hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, Talking To Change – A Motivational Interviewing podcast, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.
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Sep 15, 2023 • 1h 10min
Ep 71 – MI and Harm Reduction
MI and Harm Reduction
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Kasey Claborn to the podcast to discuss her work on MI and harm reduction. Dr. Claborn is a licensed clinical psychologist and assistant professor of Social Work and Psychiatry at The University of Texas at Austin. She is the Steve Hicks Fellow of Addiction and Recovery Services and Director for the Addictions Research Institute. Dr. Claborn is the Principal Investigator for several projects funded by the National Institutes of Health, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, and the Health Resources and Services Administration. To date, she has received over $14.3 million dollars in external funding for her research. Dr. Claborn’s research focuses on improving the addiction system of care through community based participatory research methods and system science. She has expertise in designing and building digital technologies to improve care coordination and community overdose prevention efforts. In 2021, Dr. Claborn received an international award from Google for her work in building innovative technologies for social impact. Dr. Claborn’s current work seeks to use innovative methods to combine traditional and non-traditional overdose surveillance methods to inform data-driven community response.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
06:30 – Kasey’s early MI story
09:30 – What is community outreach?
11:10 – Harm reduction: What is it and how has Kasey applied it?
22:30 – HR and abstinence as part of a continuum
31:00 – Training HR workers in MI
35:15 – HR and peer support
37:30 – Barriers to HR and ways to overcome
49:00 – Adaptation of MI for HR
61:00 – Political aspects of HR
70:06 – End of episode
Contact information:
X (Twitter) – kaseyclabornphd
Email – kasey.claborn@austin.utexas.edu
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
X (Twitter)
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
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Aug 28, 2023 • 1h 18min
Ep 70 – MI in the Treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
MI in the Treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Glenn and Seb welcomed Dr. Jim Carter to the podcast to discuss his work applying MI to the treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Jim enjoys providing clinical services, consultation, and staff training focused on integrating MI and Cognitive Behavioral Therapies. He has been a licensed clinical psychologist since 1999 and is currently a member of Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, a diplomate for the Academy of Cognitive Behavior Therapy, and a certified behavior therapist by the International OCD Foundation Behavior Therapy Training Institute. Dr. Carter recently founded a specialized online clinic called OCD123 that is available to persons residing in California seeking integrated evidence-based therapies.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
05:15 – Jim’s early MI story
14:45 – What is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD)?
26:10 – How to help people with OCD
32:00 – Using “experiments”
40:15 – How our minds work and alternatives for when we get stuck
51:00 – Role play – Helping a new father with fears of contamination
62:30 – Role play debrief
73:30 – Closing comments
77:57 – End of episode
Contact information:
Website and contact: www.ocd123.us
International OCD Foundation: https://iocdf.org/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
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Sebastian Kaplan
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May 15, 2023 • 1h 3min
Ep 69 – Coding MI for Learning and Research
Denise Ernst, a psychologist and MI trainer, shares her insights into the world of Motivational Interviewing (MI). She highlights the importance of coding in research and teaching MI practices. Denise discusses the development of the Motivational Interviewing Skill Code (MISC) and Treatment Integrity Coding system (MITI), emphasizing their roles in improving practitioner skills. The conversation also delves into the significance of reflective listening, the impact of voice intonation, and what newcomers should focus on in their learning journey.

Apr 25, 2023 • 1h
Ep 68 – Executive Functioning & MI
Executive Functioning & MI
In this episode Glenn and Sebastian discuss executive functioning and MI with Tamara Hamilton, LCSW, CMBT. Tamara is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with more than thirty years of experience in behavioral health. For the past ten years, she has been at Cliff Valley School, a pre-K through 8 progressive independent school in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, where she serves on the administration team as school counselor and director of the Cliff Valley Institute. She has focused on issues impacting the well-being of children with a particular emphasis on integrating social/emotional learning into academic curricula. Tamara earned her Master’s Degree from the Indiana University School of Social Work, and she holds a graduate certificate in Mind, Brain, and Teaching from the School of Education at Johns Hopkins University. Tamara is a frequent consultant and invited speaker regarding various topics related to child development. Her presentation style is informative, warm, and relatable as she combines her training in neuro-learning, clinical professional experience, and personal stories as a mother of three.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
04:10 – Tamara’s early MI story
08:25 – What are Executive Functions (EF)?
14:20 – “Learning is changing”
20:40 – Tamara’s journey as a mother of a child with autism
28:00 – “Setting the emotional climate” when working with children and families
30:30 – Applying MI to EF coaching
41:30 – Parallels when working with parents
46:00 – EF skills in context
50:00 – From labels to “What do you need?”
57:15 – Preparing for this summer’s Cliff Valley Institute
60:25 – End of episode
Contact information:
Email: thamilton@cliffvalley.org
Website: https://www.cliffvalleyinstitute.org/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
We welcome all donations to support us
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Apr 5, 2023 • 1h 7min
Ep 67 – MI within the Social Context
MI within the social context
Glenn and Seb were delighted to have Dr. Paul Earnshaw on the podcast to discuss MI within the social context. Paul is an independent Researcher, Senior Psychological Therapist and Motivational interviewing trainer. He is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT). He has over 18 years of experience in training multi-disciplinary health and social care staff in the UK and internationally in Motivational Interviewing, across a range of mental and physical health services. Paul has extensive clinical and research experience in a range of NHS Mental Health Services. His research Interests and writing include, the integration of MI and CBT (Atkinson and Earnshaw, 2019), MI Theory (Earnshaw, 2021), COVID-19 (in press), MI Implementation in Organisations (Atkinson and Earnshaw, 2022).
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
05:22 – Paul’s early MI story
07:45 – Integration of MI and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT)
22:40 – The therapeutic relationship
29:00 – Widening the lens beyond a “problem behavior”
38:00 – Creating safety through social empathy
52:40 – Influences on Paul’s early thinking
60:00 – Paul’s many interests including MI/CBT integration and contact tracing
66:38 – End of episode
Contact information:
Email: pgearnshaw@gmail.com
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
We welcome all donations to support us
GBP
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Mar 13, 2023 • 1h 12min
Ep 66 – Neurodiversity & MI
Neurodiversity & MI
Glenn and Seb were honoured to have Deb Solomon on the podcast to discuss neurodiversity. Deb is a social worker in Adult Care, and a Practice Development Lead. Following a surprise diagnosis of ADHD in 2020 she went on to set up and chair the first UK group for neurodivergent social workers through the British Association Of Social Workers (BASW) after recognising the lack of knowledge and support in the profession. Deb is also the Vice Chair of BASW Equality, Diversity and Inclusion Advisory Group and has recently set up the Neurodiversity Network for her local authority. Deb presents workshops on neurodiversity, executive functioning and is passionate about ensuring anyone who thinks differently is safe to be their whole selves, celebrating strengths as well as promoting acceptance for all neurotypes.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
07:25 – Deb’s introduction and early story
10:08 – Gender differences in ADHD
14:26 – What changed for Deb after receiving the ADHD diagnosis
20:30 – What an MI practitioner should know when working with clients who are neurodiverse
34:10 – Deb’s emotional and cognitive experiences as someone with ADHD
40:40 – Ambivalence and the executive functions
56:25 – “I have to get it (a thought) out”
1:02:16 – What’s helped Deb that might help others
1:06:25 – Media attention towards neurodiversity
1:11:55 – End of episode
Contact information:
Twitter: @ND_SWgroup
Email: deb.solomon@basw.co.uk
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
We welcome all donations to support us
GBP
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Feb 27, 2023 • 1h 11min
Ep 65 – Storytelling In Teaching & Learning MI
Storytelling In Teaching & Learning MI
Glenn and Sebastian warmly welcomed Steven Malcolm Berg-Smith to the podcast for a discussion on the use of Storytelling In Teaching & Learning MI. For over 30 years, Steve has worked as a behavior change counselor, health educator, drug & alcohol prevention specialist, and researcher. He currently has a private practice in the San Francisco Bay Area as a certified motivational interviewing (MI) trainer, consultant, coach & mentor.
A member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 1994, Steve has conducted over 1200 MI workshops and presentations throughout the US and internationally. He has served as a “trainer of trainers” for MINT and collaborated in the design of MI-inspired behavior change intervention protocols for numerous national clinical research trials. He has authored a manual on the “The Art of Teaching Motivational Interviewing,” along with several frequently cited articles on how to use motivation-enhancing tools and strategies to support adolescents and adults in making positive lifestyle changes.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
04:18 – Steve’s early MI story: From interrogating to evoking
14:55 – Steve meets Bill Miller in a role play
27:00 – Steve’s wife encourages him to tell stories
35:30 – The use of cliffhangers in training
46:00 – How to work with someone who is in “pre-contemplation”
54:20 – Can ambivalence be resolved: “The chick that chews”
67:45 – Looking towards retirement
70:32 – End of episode
Contact information:
Website: www.berg-smithtraining.com
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
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Sebastian Kaplan
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Jan 10, 2023 • 1h 21min
Ep 64 – Common Questions about MI
Common Questions about MI
Glenn and Sebastian were excited to welcome David B. Rosengren, Ph.D., for a return appearance to answer some common questions we receive in trainings. David is president & CEO of Prevention Research Institute (PRI), member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT), International Positive Psychology Association (IPPA), and Society for Implementation Research Collaboration (SIRC), as well as a Certified MINT Trainer.
David, is a clinical psychologist with a background in treatment, research, training, and administration. Previously, he was a research scientist and consultant at the University of Washington’s Alcohol and Drug Abuse Institute, practicing psychologist in a variety of clinical settings, and Motivational Interviewing (MI) consultant and trainer. David completed the initial training for new trainers course offered by Miller and Rollnick in 1993 and was a founding member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers. In addition to Building Motivational Interviewing Skills: A Practitioner Workbook, he has written journal articles and book chapters on addictions, MI, the change process, treatment and prevention. His most recent focus is on the role positive psychology can play in building resilience, as well as enhancing intervention and treatment effects, cognitive processes in learning, use of technology in training, and building, maintaining, and refining practitioner skills. His current research focus is implementation science in the integration of evidence-based practices across systems.
Episode index:
00:00 – Introduction
03:20 – Welcoming David back to the podcast: What’s David been up to?
06:35 – Question 1: Why does listening help?
14:40 – Question 2: How young can a client be to benefit from MI?
23:35 – Question 3: How is what you (therapist) do different than what anyone else (different therapist, friend/mate) does?
28:25 – Question 4: Should MI practitioners work to be powerful influencers of behavior?
35:30 – Question 5: My clients are more difficult than yours. How would MI work with them?
45:47 – Question 6: What if people think you are not being genuine with affirmations? How do you stop them from feeling patronized?
51:40 – Question 7: How are affirmations and compliments different?
58:20 – Question 8: What’s the best way to learn MI?
1:07:45 – Question 9: How am I supposed to do MI when I don’t have enough time?
1:18:25 – David looking forward to being a grandfather!
1:20:56 – End of episode
Links and contact information:
Email: David.rosengren@primeforlife.org
Website: www.primeforlife.org
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-rosengren-pri/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
We welcome all donations to support us
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Dec 20, 2022 • 1h 12min
Ep 63 – Therapeutic Humor Part II
Therapeutic Humor – Part II
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Mallori DeSalle, MA, LMHC, NCC, CMHC, MATS, CPS, CHP and Lodge McCammon, PhD on the podcast to discuss therapeutic humor (Listen to episode 21 with Mallori for part I on this topic). Mallori is a licensed mental health counselor, an internationally certified prevention specialist, motivational interviewing trainer and a certified humor professional. As a speaker and trainer, she has sparked curiosity in both the young and young-at-heart. Her passion for creating a lasting impact led her to the public health field and for the past 15 years she has worked at Prevention Insights, a center within the School of Public Health at Indiana University, Bloomington. Mallori works with people all over the world. She served on the Board of Directors for the Association for Applied and Therapeutic Humor and in 2021 became a TEDx speaker. Her credentials don’t impress her family, but occasionally her corny jokes do make them laugh.
Dr. Lodge McCammon is a therapeutic humorist, instructional designer, author, musician, and international education consultant who provides professional services, including keynote speeches, workshops, curriculum development, and a variety of training programs. He works with school districts, universities, nonprofits, and businesses (e.g., Palm Beach Schools, University of the West Indies, Discovery Education, Microsoft, Amazon, The Coca-Cola Company). Most recently, Lodge facilitated a month of therapeutic humor for the Nourished Teachers Community, which is a Facebook-funded initiative focused on helping educators cope with work stress and avoid burnout. He uses a program that he designed called “Laugh It Off!” to help his clients transform their daily frustrations into humor.
Episode index:
00:00 – Introduction and episode preview
03:39 – Lodge’s introduction and how he and Mallori came to work together
09:00 – Evoking with humor
13:00 – What is humor?
17:00 – An invitation to see a situation in a new way
26:00 – Absurdity training
28:10 – Renaming exercise
34:45 – Finding the absurd from an expected response
40:52 – “I am now ___ years old”
48:25 – The portability of therapeutic humor
54:40 – How to introduce a humorous intervention with permission
1:01:10 – Future trainings and applying therapeutic humor with couples
1:05:20 – Seb’s story applying therapeutic humor in group therapy with adolescents
1:11.21 – End of episode
Links and contact information:
Mallori
Website: www.malloridesalle.com
Email: malloridesalle@gmail.com
Lodge
Website: www.lodgemccammon.com
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
We welcome all donations to support us
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Nov 28, 2022 • 1h 17min
Ep 62 – Transtheoretical Model Stages of Change & MI
Transtheoretical Model Cycle of Change & MI
Glenn and Sebastian were excited to have Mary Marden Velasquez, PhD, on the podcast to discuss the Transtheoretical Model, including the Stages of Change. Dr. Velasquez is Centennial Professor in Leadership for Community, Professional and Corporate Excellence, Director of the Health Behavior Research and Training Institute (HBRT), and former Associate Dean for Research (2006-2013) at The University of Texas at Austin Steve Hicks School of Social Work. She also holds appointments in the Department of Population Health and Psychiatry at UT-Austin’s Dell Medical School. Prior to moving to UT-Austin to become Associate Dean for Research, Dr. Velasquez served on the research faculty in the Psychology Department at the University of Houston and as tenured faculty and Director of Research in Family and Community Medicine at the UT McGovern Medical School in Houston. Her program of research focuses on the development and implementation of interventions using the Transtheoretical Model and Motivational Interviewing. With over 30 years of continued support from the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Velasquez has developed and studied behavioral interventions in the areas of integrated primary care, screening and brief interventions, fetal alcohol spectrum disorder, alcohol and other drug abuse, prenatal health, HIV prevention, and smoking cessation. A current emphasis is on teaching graduate students and health professionals to work in interdisciplinary teams and to use brief motivational interventions in medical settings.
Dr. Velasquez recently completed a four-year term as a study section member on the NIH-Center for Scientific Review “Interventions to Prevent and Treat Addictions” (IPTA). She is an internationally recognized trainer in the Transtheoretical Model and Motivational Interviewing and is a member of the international Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers
Episode index:
00:00 – Introduction and episode preview
05:37 – Mary’s early TTM and MI story
17:50 – The 10 Processes of Change
21:21 – Experiential Process #1: Consciousness raising
24:08 – Experiential Process #2: Emotional arousal
26:21 – Experiential Process #3: Self-evaluation
28:57 – Experiential Process #4: Environmental re-evaluation
30:52 – Experiential Process #5: Social liberation
33:31 – The Stages of Change
39:35 – Experiential processes linked to long-term change
47:25 – Behavioral Process #1: Stimulus control
48:13 – Behavioral Process #2: Counter conditioning
49:23 – Behavioral Process #3: Reinforcement management
51:01 – Behavioral Process #4: Self-liberation
52:09 – Behavioral Process #5: Helping relationships
55:05 – Applying the model flexibly
1:00:35 – The stages of change and MI: The “kissing cousins”
1:02:25 – Decisional balance and self-efficacy
1:10:43 – Temptation
1:12:25 – Spending time with giants in the field
1:16:57 – End of episode
Links and contact information:
Study cited in episode:
Stotts AL, DiClemente CC, Carbonari JP, Mullen PD. Pregnancy smoking cessation: a case of mistaken identity. Addict Behav. 1996 Jul-Aug;21(4):459-71. doi: 10.1016/0306-4603(95)00082-8. PMID: 8830904.
Book cited in episode: https://www.guilford.com/books/Group-Treatment-for-Substance-Abuse/Velasquez-Crouch-Stephens-DiClemente/9781462523405
Health Behavior and Training Institute:
https://sites.utexas.edu/hbrt/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
We welcome all donations to support us
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