
Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast
Hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, Talking To Change – A Motivational Interviewing podcast, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.
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Mar 22, 2024 • 1h 13min
Ep 77 – MI and Brain Injury
Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Russha Knauer to discuss her work applying MI with people who have experienced a brain injury. Russha has a BA in psychology and a master’s degree in Criminal Justice Administration. She joined the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers in San Diego in 2009.
Prior to joining the MINDSOURCE Brain Injury Network, she spent her 20 year career working in juvenile and criminal justice. She is interested in exploring how Motivational Interviewing can be adapted for use with people who have had an injury to the brain.
Episode Index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:05 – Russha’s introduction and early MI story: Learning and application of MI
in juvenile justice settings
17:15 – Transition to working with people who have experienced brain injury
27:00 – Some challenges caring for people with brain injury
46:55 – Applications of MI
1:12:36 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
Email: russha.knauer@state.co.us
Website: https://mindsourcecolorado.org/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Mar 4, 2024 • 1h 5min
Ep 76 – MI For Burnout & Compassion Fatigue
Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Debra Collins, MA, LMFT to discuss MI as a way to reduce burnout and compassion fatigue. Debra has extensive experience in clinical practice, supervision and program management. She has been a program manager/clinical director in community-based clinics and has provided direct service, behavioral health consultation, program development, training, and supervision/coaching for a wide variety of social service, addiction and criminal justice settings.
Throughout her career Debra has organized and participated in Community Response Teams when communities have been faced with natural disasters, violent crimes, or other catastrophic events. She is an active member of Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) serving on the Reinstatement Committee and has presented at conferences, grand rounds, and panel discussions.
She is currently exploring how the Spirit of MI can support providers in reducing their risk of burnout and compassion fatigue and how the practice of MI might also be useful in helping providers explore their own ambivalence in utilizing self-care strategies.
Episode Index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
4:00 – Debra’s introduction and early MI story
15:40 – Burnout and compassion fatigue
19:30 – Where does the relationship go?
25:00 – How the MI spirit helps the helper
32:15 – Ask-Offer-Ask
39:00 – Taking better care of ourselves
51:48 – Being a “provider”
1:00:00 – Wondering how creativity intersects with wellness
1:05:14 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
Email: debracollinsconsulting@gmail.com
Website: www.debracollinsconsulting.com
Resources Mentioned :
Trauma Stewardship (2007). Authors: Laura van Dernoot Lipsky, Connie Burk
https://traumastewardship.com/
Amishi Jha – Peak Mind https://amishi.com/
Compassionomics Authors: Stephen Trzeciak, MD, MPH Anthony Mazzarelli, MD, JD, MBE https://www.compassionomics.com/
Elizabeth Lesser https://www.facebook.com/ElizLesser/posts/739429870871482/?paipv=0&eav=AfbgpipK81xDeWhuBA8uX0WqQTCX7bChyB2ZVK8HG7J_gw697qCjMBtZzZ7otQCKzUk&_rdr
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Feb 20, 2024 • 1h 10min
Ep 75 – MI and Spirituality
Sky Kershner, Assistant Professor in Psychiatry, joins the hosts to discuss the intersection of spirituality and Motivational Interviewing. They explore the importance of empathy, humility, and personal growth through reflection and surrender. Topics also include ambivalence in spirituality and forgiveness, emphasizing the transformative power of trust and interconnectedness in personal growth.

Jan 9, 2024 • 50min
Ep 74 – MI and Servant Leadership
MI and Servant Leadership
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Jemima Neddy Organ to the podcast to discuss MI and servant leadership. Jemima is a community educator having worked as an instructor and training consultant in Kenya and the Middle East. In Kenya, Jemima was actively involved in advocacy and education of mental health issues in the community. She initiated the writing of the psychological bill to acknowledge counseling as a profession in Kenya. Jemima also initiated a behavior change program for youth (in a faith-based organization). The program is now in six countries in Africa due to her active training and mentoring of the leaders.
Jemima has a Ph.D. from the Organization, Information, & Learning Sciences (OILS) program at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque USA with a focus on Instructional Design (ID), Adult Education & Professional Development (AE&PD), and Motivational Interviewing in leadership (MI-Lead). Her dissertation was on “Motivational Interviewing: A Tool for Servant Leadership.” She was trained, coached, and is being mentored by Dr. William Miller, the father of MI. Jemima holds a master’s degree in Counseling Psychology from Daystar University in Nairobi, Kenya, and a bachelor’s degree in Psychology and Counseling from the University of Nairobi, Kenya. Jemima has over 27 years’ of experience in the mental health profession and is also a licensed professional counselor-candidate (LPCC) in Colorado. Jemima is an active member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and she integrates her counseling skills with adult education and professional development. Her visionary personality has enabled her to initiate MI as a tool for servant leaders. Jemima gives presentations, trains, teaches, and coaches leaders on how to incorporate Motivational Interviewing in their leadership style.
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:00 – Jemima introduction and early MI story
11:45 – How MI fits in the context of leadership
20:50 – Jemima’s father as an early source of hope
23:06 – What is servant leadership?
30:45 – The distinction between servant and transformational leadership
37:50 – The core skills of MI (i.e. OARS) and servant leadership
48:18 – Transitions
50:05 – End of recording
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Dec 12, 2023 • 50min
Ep 73 – MI and Hope in Alaska
MI and Hope in Alaska
Glenn and Sebastian discussed MI and Hope in Alaska with Sarah Niecko. Sarah is an Assistant Professor of Behavioral Health Sciences at the University of Alaska Southeast in Juneau, AK, USA. She has a Master of Science in Medicine and a Doctorate of Health Sciences. She is also a Duke trained Health & Wellness Coach and a recent member of MINT (Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers). She spent 18 years practicing behavioral and lifestyle medicine, including two years in rural Alaska partnering with Yup’ik Eskimos. It was during this time that she began to fully appreciate the transformative potential of motivational interviewing and the healing power of culture, resilience, and hope.
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:00 – Transforming burnout through hope and love
14:00 – Adapting to a new world through curiosity and compassion
22:30 – Embodying the MI spirit
27:53 – “Hope is the flint of the heart”
32:03 – MI spirit directed inward before radiating it forward
36:57 – Language as a way to rediscover identity
40:00 – Creating a new integrated behavioral health program
49:52 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: sniecko@alaska.edu
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
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Nov 12, 2023 • 1h 8min
EP 72 – Non-Suicidal Self Injury & MI
Victoria Kress and Rachel O’Neill discuss non-suicidal self-injury (NSSI) and the importance of reframing attention seeking as a way to seek connection. They explore harm reduction strategies, the use of motivational interviewing (MI), and narrative therapy. Basic counseling skills and the strength of partnership in working with NSSI are also highlighted. The conversation wraps up with future plans including increasing daily steps and getting involved in child advocacy.

Sep 15, 2023 • 1h 10min
Ep 71 – MI and Harm Reduction
MI and Harm Reduction
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Kasey Claborn to the podcast to discuss her work on MI and harm reduction. Dr. Claborn is a licensed clinical psychologist and assistant professor of Social Work and Psychiatry at The University of Texas at Austin. She is the Steve Hicks Fellow of Addiction and Recovery Services and Director for the Addictions Research Institute. Dr. Claborn is the Principal Investigator for several projects funded by the National Institutes of Health, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, and the Health Resources and Services Administration. To date, she has received over $14.3 million dollars in external funding for her research. Dr. Claborn’s research focuses on improving the addiction system of care through community based participatory research methods and system science. She has expertise in designing and building digital technologies to improve care coordination and community overdose prevention efforts. In 2021, Dr. Claborn received an international award from Google for her work in building innovative technologies for social impact. Dr. Claborn’s current work seeks to use innovative methods to combine traditional and non-traditional overdose surveillance methods to inform data-driven community response.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
06:30 – Kasey’s early MI story
09:30 – What is community outreach?
11:10 – Harm reduction: What is it and how has Kasey applied it?
22:30 – HR and abstinence as part of a continuum
31:00 – Training HR workers in MI
35:15 – HR and peer support
37:30 – Barriers to HR and ways to overcome
49:00 – Adaptation of MI for HR
61:00 – Political aspects of HR
70:06 – End of episode
Contact information:
X (Twitter) – kaseyclabornphd
Email – kasey.claborn@austin.utexas.edu
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Aug 28, 2023 • 1h 18min
Ep 70 – MI in the Treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
MI in the Treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Glenn and Seb welcomed Dr. Jim Carter to the podcast to discuss his work applying MI to the treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Jim enjoys providing clinical services, consultation, and staff training focused on integrating MI and Cognitive Behavioral Therapies. He has been a licensed clinical psychologist since 1999 and is currently a member of Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, a diplomate for the Academy of Cognitive Behavior Therapy, and a certified behavior therapist by the International OCD Foundation Behavior Therapy Training Institute. Dr. Carter recently founded a specialized online clinic called OCD123 that is available to persons residing in California seeking integrated evidence-based therapies.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
05:15 – Jim’s early MI story
14:45 – What is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD)?
26:10 – How to help people with OCD
32:00 – Using “experiments”
40:15 – How our minds work and alternatives for when we get stuck
51:00 – Role play – Helping a new father with fears of contamination
62:30 – Role play debrief
73:30 – Closing comments
77:57 – End of episode
Contact information:
Website and contact: www.ocd123.us
International OCD Foundation: https://iocdf.org/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
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Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
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May 15, 2023 • 1h 3min
Ep 69 – Coding MI for Learning and Research
Denise Ernst, a psychologist and MI trainer, shares her insights into the world of Motivational Interviewing (MI). She highlights the importance of coding in research and teaching MI practices. Denise discusses the development of the Motivational Interviewing Skill Code (MISC) and Treatment Integrity Coding system (MITI), emphasizing their roles in improving practitioner skills. The conversation also delves into the significance of reflective listening, the impact of voice intonation, and what newcomers should focus on in their learning journey.

Apr 25, 2023 • 1h
Ep 68 – Executive Functioning & MI
Executive Functioning & MI
In this episode Glenn and Sebastian discuss executive functioning and MI with Tamara Hamilton, LCSW, CMBT. Tamara is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with more than thirty years of experience in behavioral health. For the past ten years, she has been at Cliff Valley School, a pre-K through 8 progressive independent school in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, where she serves on the administration team as school counselor and director of the Cliff Valley Institute. She has focused on issues impacting the well-being of children with a particular emphasis on integrating social/emotional learning into academic curricula. Tamara earned her Master’s Degree from the Indiana University School of Social Work, and she holds a graduate certificate in Mind, Brain, and Teaching from the School of Education at Johns Hopkins University. Tamara is a frequent consultant and invited speaker regarding various topics related to child development. Her presentation style is informative, warm, and relatable as she combines her training in neuro-learning, clinical professional experience, and personal stories as a mother of three.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
04:10 – Tamara’s early MI story
08:25 – What are Executive Functions (EF)?
14:20 – “Learning is changing”
20:40 – Tamara’s journey as a mother of a child with autism
28:00 – “Setting the emotional climate” when working with children and families
30:30 – Applying MI to EF coaching
41:30 – Parallels when working with parents
46:00 – EF skills in context
50:00 – From labels to “What do you need?”
57:15 – Preparing for this summer’s Cliff Valley Institute
60:25 – End of episode
Contact information:
Email: thamilton@cliffvalley.org
Website: https://www.cliffvalleyinstitute.org/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
ChangeTalking
Glenn Hinds
Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
We welcome all donations to support us
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