

Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast
Glenn Hinds & Sebastian Kaplan
Hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, Talking To Change – A Motivational Interviewing podcast, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.
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Jul 8, 2024 • 1h 4min
Ep 81 – MI for Sport & Performance
MI for Sport and Performance
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Ben Freakley, CMPC on the podcast to discussed MI in sport and performance settings. Ben is a leader in the field of applied sport and performance psychology with a career spanning over two decades. He is the founder and CEO of Ready, Set, Resilient, which provides sports and performance psychology services to individuals, teams, and organizations.
Throughout his career, Ben has held several significant positions. He served as the Head of Mental Performance for the Toronto Blue Jays, where he led the development and delivery of mental skills programs across all levels of the organization. He was also the inaugural head coach and general manager of Tormenta FC in the United Soccer League (USL). His expertise extends to tactical environments, having worked as the performance psychology coach with the 75th Ranger Regiment of the United States Army Special Operations Forces.
Ben holds a doctoral degree in Sport and Performance Psychology with an emphasis in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. He is also a Certified Mental Performance Consultant (CMPC) through the Association for Applied Sport Psychology (AASP). His research focus areas include leadership preferences of NCAA Division One coaches and psychological frameworks that promote human flourishing.
Before his full-time work in sport and performance psychology, Ben spent over a decade as an NCAA College Soccer coach demonstrating his versatility and depth in coaching, psychology of performance, and team culture.
In his private practice, Ben works with executives and businesses, professional athletes and teams, and NCAA college athletics programs to help them evaluate and enhance their processes, performance, and well-being.
Ben is a sought-after speaker on topics such as resilience, mental performance, motivation, leadership, and organizational culture.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
05:27 – Ben intro and early MI story
08:35 – Autonomy support in sport and military settings
15:01 – Shifting between following, guiding, and directing
17:20 – MI spirit in sport
24:45 – “Being a warm fire”
28:00 – Progressive sporting institutions
41:00 – What is success beyond winning?
43:00 – Situations in sport when MI helps
54:45 – Key points for coaches to learn and apply
1:04:14 – End of episode
Contact information:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ben-freakley-edd-cmpc-a5036bb1
Website: rsrcoaching.com
Email: bencfreakley@gmail.com
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Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Jun 24, 2024 • 57min
Ep 80 – Motivational Interviewing & Behaviourism
Dr. James Anderson, Chief of Psychiatry, discusses behaviorism and Motivational Interviewing. Topics include compassion, applying behavioral concepts to change, psychedelic-assisted therapy, and integrating MI with radical behaviorism for patient language structuring.

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May 19, 2024 • 0sec
Ep 79 – MI & Health Coaching
MI and Health Coaching
Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Amanda Gabarda, EdD and Susan Butterworth, PhD to discuss health coaching and Motivational Interviewing. Dr. Gabarda is currently the Senior Director of Clinical Training & Development at UPMC Health Plan where she is responsible for designing, scaling, and evaluating evidence-based training, quality assurance, and health behavior change interventions for digital, telephonic, and in-person health coaching and care management. Dr. Gabarda is passionate about combining coaching and behavior change science to empower individuals to live their best and healthiest lives. She has a Bachelor and Master of Science in Exercise Science, a Master of Public Health, and a Doctorate of Education. She is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, a National Board Certified Health and Wellness Coach, and a Certified Health Education Specialist.
Dr. Susan Butterworth is currently an Associate Professor at the Center for Health System Improvement at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center and Director of Patient Engagement for the Tennessee Heart Health Network. Susan is also the founder of Q-consult, LLC which provides consulting and training services to large organizations to improve patient engagement and patient-centered care. Her clinical background is exercise physiology and she received her doctoral degree in adult education and training with a cognate in health promotion from Virginia Commonwealth University. Susan specializes in the application of motivational interviewing-based health coaching interventions in healthcare and is well-published in this area. In addition, she has been awarded or served on multiple grants to assess the impact of health coaching interventions in healthcare organizations including health plans, hospitals, and clinics. She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Networking of Trainers (MINT) since 2002.
Episode Index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:33 – Amanda and Susan’s introduction and early MI stories
11:30 – How MI changed the delivery of health coaching
16:00 – The psychology of lifestyle change
23:00 – What has been the response to MI from clients and organizations
30:00 – Coaching as a “vehicle for learning and growing and transforming”
36:30 – Coaching as a brief intervention
42:45 – How does a health coach fit into the healthcare system
49:55 – What is the experience of being a health coach
58:00 – Research on MI and health coaching
1:05:30 – Amanda and Susan learning about artificial intelligence
1:09:20 – Real-play with Susan and Sebastian
1:18:00 – Real-play debrief
1:26:24 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
LinkedIn
Amanda: linkedin.com/in/amanda-gabarda-edd-mph-nbc-hwc
Susan: linkedin.com/in/susan-butterworth-qconsult
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Apr 14, 2024 • 1h 12min
Ep 78 – Self-Help MI
MI and Self-Help
Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Michelle Drapkin, PhD, to discuss Motivational Interviewing and self-help. Dr. Drapkin has been working in the area of behavior change for over 20 years. She is the Owner/Director of the CBT Center and previously held roles in industry (Johnson and Johnson), academia (University of Pennsylvania and Rutgers) and federal government (Department of Veteran Affairs). She has dedicated her professional career to using psychological research to help people. She is a board-certified Clinical Psychologist and sees patients in her private practice, consults with healthcare tech start-ups, and delivers trainings and workshops on communication/motivation and health and wellbeing at work and in life. She is the sole author of The Motivational Interviewing Path to Personal Change: The Essential Workbook for Creating the Life You Want from New Harbinger Publications.
Episode Index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
4:42 – Michelle’s introduction and early MI story
10:55 – Enhancing motivation through behavioral principles
19:08 – “How does one do MI with oneself?”
24:20 – Self-compassion: Having a more effective relationship with our inner critic
30:20 – “A way of being with ourselves”
42:30 – Using Michelle’s self-help book
45:45 – Trying the “best self” exercise
1:08:25 – Michelle supporting her daughter
1:11:44 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelledrapkin/
Website: https://cbtcenterofcentralnj.com/
Link to Michelle’s book: https://cbtcenterofcentralnj.com/the-motivational-interviewing-path-to-personal-change/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Mar 22, 2024 • 1h 13min
Ep 77 – MI and Brain Injury
Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Russha Knauer to discuss her work applying MI with people who have experienced a brain injury. Russha has a BA in psychology and a master’s degree in Criminal Justice Administration. She joined the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers in San Diego in 2009.
Prior to joining the MINDSOURCE Brain Injury Network, she spent her 20 year career working in juvenile and criminal justice. She is interested in exploring how Motivational Interviewing can be adapted for use with people who have had an injury to the brain.
Episode Index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:05 – Russha’s introduction and early MI story: Learning and application of MI
in juvenile justice settings
17:15 – Transition to working with people who have experienced brain injury
27:00 – Some challenges caring for people with brain injury
46:55 – Applications of MI
1:12:36 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
Email: russha.knauer@state.co.us
Website: https://mindsourcecolorado.org/
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Mar 4, 2024 • 1h 5min
Ep 76 – MI For Burnout & Compassion Fatigue
Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Debra Collins, MA, LMFT to discuss MI as a way to reduce burnout and compassion fatigue. Debra has extensive experience in clinical practice, supervision and program management. She has been a program manager/clinical director in community-based clinics and has provided direct service, behavioral health consultation, program development, training, and supervision/coaching for a wide variety of social service, addiction and criminal justice settings.
Throughout her career Debra has organized and participated in Community Response Teams when communities have been faced with natural disasters, violent crimes, or other catastrophic events. She is an active member of Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) serving on the Reinstatement Committee and has presented at conferences, grand rounds, and panel discussions.
She is currently exploring how the Spirit of MI can support providers in reducing their risk of burnout and compassion fatigue and how the practice of MI might also be useful in helping providers explore their own ambivalence in utilizing self-care strategies.
Episode Index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
4:00 – Debra’s introduction and early MI story
15:40 – Burnout and compassion fatigue
19:30 – Where does the relationship go?
25:00 – How the MI spirit helps the helper
32:15 – Ask-Offer-Ask
39:00 – Taking better care of ourselves
51:48 – Being a “provider”
1:00:00 – Wondering how creativity intersects with wellness
1:05:14 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
Email: debracollinsconsulting@gmail.com
Website: www.debracollinsconsulting.com
Resources Mentioned :
Trauma Stewardship (2007). Authors: Laura van Dernoot Lipsky, Connie Burk
https://traumastewardship.com/
Amishi Jha – Peak Mind https://amishi.com/
Compassionomics Authors: Stephen Trzeciak, MD, MPH Anthony Mazzarelli, MD, JD, MBE https://www.compassionomics.com/
Elizabeth Lesser https://www.facebook.com/ElizLesser/posts/739429870871482/?paipv=0&eav=AfbgpipK81xDeWhuBA8uX0WqQTCX7bChyB2ZVK8HG7J_gw697qCjMBtZzZ7otQCKzUk&_rdr
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Feb 20, 2024 • 1h 10min
Ep 75 – MI and Spirituality
Sky Kershner, Assistant Professor in Psychiatry, joins the hosts to discuss the intersection of spirituality and Motivational Interviewing. They explore the importance of empathy, humility, and personal growth through reflection and surrender. Topics also include ambivalence in spirituality and forgiveness, emphasizing the transformative power of trust and interconnectedness in personal growth.

Jan 9, 2024 • 50min
Ep 74 – MI and Servant Leadership
MI and Servant Leadership
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Jemima Neddy Organ to the podcast to discuss MI and servant leadership. Jemima is a community educator having worked as an instructor and training consultant in Kenya and the Middle East. In Kenya, Jemima was actively involved in advocacy and education of mental health issues in the community. She initiated the writing of the psychological bill to acknowledge counseling as a profession in Kenya. Jemima also initiated a behavior change program for youth (in a faith-based organization). The program is now in six countries in Africa due to her active training and mentoring of the leaders.
Jemima has a Ph.D. from the Organization, Information, & Learning Sciences (OILS) program at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque USA with a focus on Instructional Design (ID), Adult Education & Professional Development (AE&PD), and Motivational Interviewing in leadership (MI-Lead). Her dissertation was on “Motivational Interviewing: A Tool for Servant Leadership.” She was trained, coached, and is being mentored by Dr. William Miller, the father of MI. Jemima holds a master’s degree in Counseling Psychology from Daystar University in Nairobi, Kenya, and a bachelor’s degree in Psychology and Counseling from the University of Nairobi, Kenya. Jemima has over 27 years’ of experience in the mental health profession and is also a licensed professional counselor-candidate (LPCC) in Colorado. Jemima is an active member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and she integrates her counseling skills with adult education and professional development. Her visionary personality has enabled her to initiate MI as a tool for servant leaders. Jemima gives presentations, trains, teaches, and coaches leaders on how to incorporate Motivational Interviewing in their leadership style.
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:00 – Jemima introduction and early MI story
11:45 – How MI fits in the context of leadership
20:50 – Jemima’s father as an early source of hope
23:06 – What is servant leadership?
30:45 – The distinction between servant and transformational leadership
37:50 – The core skills of MI (i.e. OARS) and servant leadership
48:18 – Transitions
50:05 – End of recording
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Dec 12, 2023 • 50min
Ep 73 – MI and Hope in Alaska
MI and Hope in Alaska
Glenn and Sebastian discussed MI and Hope in Alaska with Sarah Niecko. Sarah is an Assistant Professor of Behavioral Health Sciences at the University of Alaska Southeast in Juneau, AK, USA. She has a Master of Science in Medicine and a Doctorate of Health Sciences. She is also a Duke trained Health & Wellness Coach and a recent member of MINT (Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers). She spent 18 years practicing behavioral and lifestyle medicine, including two years in rural Alaska partnering with Yup’ik Eskimos. It was during this time that she began to fully appreciate the transformative potential of motivational interviewing and the healing power of culture, resilience, and hope.
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:00 – Transforming burnout through hope and love
14:00 – Adapting to a new world through curiosity and compassion
22:30 – Embodying the MI spirit
27:53 – “Hope is the flint of the heart”
32:03 – MI spirit directed inward before radiating it forward
36:57 – Language as a way to rediscover identity
40:00 – Creating a new integrated behavioral health program
49:52 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: sniecko@alaska.edu
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
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Nov 12, 2023 • 1h 8min
EP 72 – Non-Suicidal Self Injury & MI
Victoria Kress and Rachel O’Neill discuss non-suicidal self-injury (NSSI) and the importance of reframing attention seeking as a way to seek connection. They explore harm reduction strategies, the use of motivational interviewing (MI), and narrative therapy. Basic counseling skills and the strength of partnership in working with NSSI are also highlighted. The conversation wraps up with future plans including increasing daily steps and getting involved in child advocacy.