
Mindful Money
Do you struggle with money? You’re not alone.
Money is a means, not an end. It’s a necessity of life for sure, but more money does not always guarantee a “good life”. Money enables many aspects of modern life, but as a dominant consideration it becomes destructive.
The paradox is that more time and energy spent on personal finance does NOT create better outcomes. Unlike many other parts of life, we can’t create better outcomes by being smarter, spending more time, or putting in more effort.
Join Mindful Money author and experienced 40-year investor Jonathan DeYoe as he shares stories from artists, authors, entrepreneurs, and other advisors about how they mindfully minimize their need to think about money and get more out of life.
If you aren’t happy with your finances, feel like money takes more time that it should, or want to place your financial decisions into the broader context of your life, this show is for you.
Each episode will draw the line between the “enough” activities that the academics tell us are additive to family outcomes, and those “little bit more” efforts that take time and sap energy, but do NOT improve outcomes.
Latest episodes

Nov 20, 2024 • 40min
Jordan Grumet — Breaking the Mirage: How to Find True Purpose Beyond Wealth with Jordan Grumet
Jordan Grumet found the spark to become a doctor after a deeply personal event reshaped his life's trajectory. The unexpected loss of his father, an oncologist, ignited a passion within him to practice medicine and instilled a unique vantage point that later melded seamlessly with his financial expertise. This convergence of roles has spurred him to explore profound notions like wealth, abundance, and financial independence with a thoughtful and critical lens.In this episode, I talk with Jordan about the shift from chasing societal ideals to building true purpose. Jordan shares insights from his new book, The Purpose Code, emphasizing how embracing community and aligning with personal anchors of joy can lead to a fulfilling life. We also discuss the psychological impact of social media, generational trauma vs. generational growth, and the challenges of defining a moral and ethical life.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(03:24) - Jordan's early life and career(07:44) - The mirage of wealth(12:06) - Purpose and community(13:55) - Lack of authenticity, purpose, and economics(15:28) - Little "p" purpose vs. big "P" purpose(20:34) - Purpose and impact(24:11) - Generational trauma vs generational growth(29:17) - Discovering Purpose Anchors(32:17) - How to engage in your chosen purpose(33:21) - Jordan's social media habits(37:11) - The ultimate question of morality(38:56) - Connect with JordanGet full show notes and links at https://mindful.money. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MindfulMoney.

Nov 13, 2024 • 45min
133: Brian Herriot - The Time Freedom Equation: Unlocking the Secret to Doing More of What You Love
Brian Herriot writes and speaks about the power of time freedom. As a financial coach and founder of Choosy Consultant, he helps mid-career professionals escape the corporate grind. His frameworks for personal growth and financial success all start with taking back control of our one truly limited resource: time.In this episode, I talk with Brian about finding freedom and balance in your career. Brian shares insights from his journey as a consultant and founder of Choosy Consultant, where he helps mid-career professionals design lives that prioritize time over money. Emphasizing the importance of self-reflection, Brian advocates for “lifestyle freedom”—the ability to define and pursue personal success without succumbing to conventional career pressures. We discuss strategies for avoiding burnout, reimagining financial goals, and aligning one’s career with core values. Brian also touches on “the smile curve” of happiness and how he restructured his life to enjoy summers at a lakeside cabin, inspiring others to envision work as a means to support meaningful living.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(01:02) - Meet Brian Harriot(03:37) - The path to entrepreneurship(06:36) - The importance of time and lifestyle freedom(07:35) - Career arc and founding Choosy Consultant(10:57) - Balancing financial and professional freedom(17:49) - The Smile Curve: Understanding life’s happiness arc(21:50) - Navigating midlife transitions(24:55) - Creative financial solutions(25:45) - Breaking conventional thinking(28:04) - Understanding the corporate grind(30:05) - Balancing entrepreneurship and personal life(41:02) - Investment strategies(43:17) - Personal reflectionsGet full show notes and links at https://mindful.money. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MindfulMoney.

Nov 6, 2024 • 18min
132: Modular Financial Planning 10: Portfolio Optimizers
In this final episode of our Modular Financial Planning series, we’ll explore “portfolio optimizers”—strategies that add a bit of extra return potential to a well-diversified portfolio. These steps, like managing taxes, flexible trading, and securities lending, can enhance outcomes but aren’t essential if you’ve followed our previous nine steps. If you’re already saving, investing, and rebalancing consistently, you’ve done enough. For those seeking a little boost, these optimizers may be worth exploring with your advisor. In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(01:09) - Portfolio optimizers(03:54) - Reducing expenses(05:00) - Tax management(07:48) - Investment factors(12:53) - Securities lending(14:18) - Flexible trading(16:04) - Conclusion and next stepsGet full show notes and links at https://mindful.money. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MindfulMoney.

Oct 30, 2024 • 25min
131: Modular Financial Planning 09: Simple, Basic, Mindful Investing
In this episode of Mindful Money, we break down the essentials of mindful investing within the larger modular financial planning framework. We’ll focus on three foundational practices: asset allocation, diversification, and rebalancing. These simple yet powerful steps can guide you to a successful long-term portfolio without succumbing to market predictions or emotional reactions. We’ll also discuss mindfulness exercises, like box breathing and body scans, to help manage the impulses of fear and envy in investing. By staying present and committed to these principles, you can navigate the market’s ups and downs with confidence and peace of mind.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(01:27) - The importance of managing investments and people(06:21) - Core practices of mindful investing(07:34) - Asset allocation explained(10:55) - Diversification and its benefits(12:40) - Rebalancing your portfolio(18:49) - Mindfulness practices for better investing(23:17) - The benefits of mindfulness on your investmentsGet full show notes and links at https://mindful.money. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MindfulMoney.

Oct 23, 2024 • 16min
130: Modular Financial Planning 08: Paying Down Low-Interest Debt and Building Taxable Savings
In this episode of Mindful Money, we explore the choice between paying off low-interest debt and building taxable savings. While paying down high-interest debt is crucial, once that’s done, the focus should shift toward maximizing retirement savings and investing in taxable accounts. We'll discuss how the power of compounding can make investing more beneficial than paying off low-interest debt. We'll also touch on the flexibility that taxable accounts provide, especially in retirement, where they allow for tax-efficient withdrawals. Ultimately, financial planning is about building a life well-lived, not just accumulating wealth.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(02:27) - Reaching financial basecamp(04:18) - Three steps on the way to the summit(04:36) - Debt management vs. investment(06:08) - Optimizing your financial decisions(09:03) - The power of compounding(10:33) - Investing vs. paying off debt(12:09) - Taxable accounts and their benefits(13:12) - Tax strategies for retirementGet full show notes and links at https://mindful.money. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MindfulMoney.

Oct 16, 2024 • 22min
129: Modular Financial Planning 07: Saving and Investing for Retirement
In this episode of Mindful Money, we explore strategies for retirement planning. We’ll dive into the critical topics of saving, investing, retirement income, retirement age, Social Security, living arrangements, and more. We’ll also discuss investment strategies like maintaining a low withdrawal rate, diversification, and having a balanced portfolio, as well as practical advice on retirement accounts like 401(k)s and IRAs, and asset allocation. The goal is to help you make mindful financial decisions to ensure a secure retirement and build a lasting legacy.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(01:15) - Defining financial independence(02:15) - Variables in retirement planning(03:07) - Social Security and healthcare considerations(04:27) - The need for early retirement planning(07:15) - Mind the gap: calculating retirement needs(08:56) - Withdrawal rates and portfolio management(10:49) - Creating a legacy and setting savings goals(11:45) - Choosing the right retirement account(12:04) - Employer-sponsored plans and IRAs(14:46) - Investment basics and compounding(15:56) - Types of investments: owners vs. loaners(18:40) - Building a diversified portfolioGet full show notes and links at https://mindful.money. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MindfulMoney.

Oct 9, 2024 • 12min
128: Modular Financial Planning 06: Eliminate High-Interest Debt
In this episode of Mindful Money, we talk about the critical step of eliminating high-interest debt, a common financial burden that hinders progress toward financial freedom. We’ll discuss the importance of identifying high-interest debt, the impact it has on your finances and health, and strategies for tackling it effectively through debt snowball and debt avalanche methods. We’ll also discuss the balance between debt repayment and investing, and the benefits of handling debts wisely to achieve a happier, financially stable life.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(00:58) - Understanding and tackling high-interest debt(02:03) - Strategies for debt elimination(07:30) - Balancing debt repayment and investing(09:26) - Low-interest debt and financial strategyGet full show notes and links at https://mindful.money. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MindfulMoney.

Oct 2, 2024 • 12min
127: Modular Financial Planning 05: Emergency Fund Basics
In this episode of Mindful Money, we dive into the importance of building an emergency fund as the foundation of a successful financial plan. The purpose of an emergency fund is to cover unexpected expenses and provide peace of mind. We'll discuss guidelines on how much to save based on different life stages, from young adults to retirees, and explore practical steps for calculating and building your emergency savings. An emergency fund is a crucial safety net to protect against financial setbacks and ensure long-term financial stability.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(01:07) - Building your emergency fund(02:11) - What is an Emergency Fund?(03:14) - How much should you save?(04:51) - Emergency fund by life stages(08:23) - Calculating your minimum emergency fund(09:25) - When to use your emergency fundGet full show notes and links at https://mindful.money. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MindfulMoney.

Sep 25, 2024 • 12min
126: Modular Financial Planning 04: Adopt a Savings Habit
In this episode of Mindful Money, we’re discussing the critical step of adopting a savings habit. Spending less than you earn, establishing healthy financial habits early, and taking advantage of compounding interest are crucial. Create a vision for your ideal life and align your financial priorities with that vision. These steps, along with automating your savings and making mindful spending choices, will help you build financial security, eventually leading to a comfortable retirement.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(01:51) - The savings habit(02:22) - Spend less than you earn(03:38) - Two financial statements every business needs(05:14) - Empathizing with your future self(06:06) - Take advantage of compounding(07:48) - Ranking your priorities(09:44) - Automate your savings(10:59) - Re-Investing your savings(11:17) - Next stepsGet full show notes and links at https://mindful.money. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MindfulMoney.

Sep 18, 2024 • 15min
125: Modular Financial Planning 03: Developing Your Vision of a Perfect Life
In this episode of Mindful Money, we dive into step two of the modular financial planning process—developing a clear vision of your ideal life. It’s critical to think through each step in creating this vision, such as identifying personal values, declaring a meaningful purpose, envisioning your perfect life, writing a professional mission statement, and setting actionable personal goals. Following these steps will help you create a written financial plan that reflects your deepest values and aspirations. Financial security is a journey that requires acceptance, self-reflection, planning, and hope.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(01:13) - Understanding financial security(02:18) - Developing your ideal life vision(06:30) - Five essential elements of your vision(06:46) - Identifying personal values(07:45) - Stating your meaningful purpose(09:34) - Picturing your perfect life(11:04) - Creating a professional mission statement(11:56) - Setting personal goals(13:42) - Next stepsGet full show notes and links at https://mindful.money. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MindfulMoney.
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