

The Coaching Equation
Ryan Lang & Brook Bishop
Being an extraordinary coach doesn’t make you a profitable one and no matter how hard you wish, the client fairy isn’t coming to drop clients in your lap. Building, growing, and scaling a coaching business isn’t about the shiny object marketing tactic, the slick sales script, or a two hour morning routine. It’s about learning and applying tried and true business strategies that are the foundation of the most successful entrepreneurs and businesses on the planet.
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Feb 21, 2025 • 11min
Fast Five for Friday: Spring Cleaning, Sunk Cost Fallacy, and the Power of Relationships
Episode Highlights: [00:18] The Power of Cleansing (In Business and Life)Brook shares insights from his two-month homeopathy cleanse, revealing why detoxing isn’t just about what you add—but also about what you remove. Ryan connects this to spring cleaning in business and why eliminating what's not working is just as important as growth.[01:52] The Sunk Cost Fallacy: When to Cut Your LossesEver kept doing something just because you invested time or money in it? Ryan explains the sunk cost fallacy—why people hold onto bad strategies out of guilt—and why the best business owners cut their losses and move on quickly.[04:20] Relationships Over TransactionsIn an era dominated by digital marketing and ad-driven tactics, Brook reminds us that strong relationships are the ultimate business advantage. Ryan adds that great relationships mean you’ll never go hungry in business.[06:17] Model, Then Modify: The Fastest Path to MasteryWhether in sales, leadership, or any skill, the key is to model what works first—then tweak it to fit your unique voice and business. Ryan shares how this philosophy applies to mastering sales scripts, marketing, and even music.[08:26] The Stoic Reminder: Be the Person You Aspire to BeBrook drops a powerful quote from Marcus Aurelius: “Waste no more time arguing what a good person should be. Be one.” Ryan and Brook discuss the noise of today’s world and why action speaks louder than words.

Feb 18, 2025 • 1h 7min
Revisiting The 5 Biggest Mistakes Coaches Make When Starting a Coaching Business
This episode was too good to leave buried in the archives!Episode Highlights[00:01] The Costly Learning CurveRyan and Brook reflect on mistakes they wish they could have avoided when launching their coaching businesses—and how you can shortcut the process to success.[01:34] Mistake #1: Getting Ready to Get ReadyPerfectionism kills momentum. If you’re stuck in “preparing” mode—chasing certifications, tweaking your program endlessly, or waiting for the right moment—it’s time to launch.[08:15] Don’t Build Your Program Before You Sell ItA hard truth: Many coaches spend months building a program only to realize no one buys it. Sell first, then build. Ryan and Brook explain why testing the market before you create is key.[14:06] Mistake #2: Building Your Business Around a TacticOne marketing trick won’t build a sustainable business. Whether it’s referrals, Facebook ads, or a trending strategy, you need a real business—not a one-trick marketing play.[28:28] Mistake #3: Pricing Yourself into the Ground (or Out of the Market)Underpricing leads to burnout, overpricing without proof sinks sales, and putting your rates on your website is a conversion killer. Learn how to price based on value, not just sessions.[43:04] Mistake #4: Winging It with SalesIf you don’t have a structured sales process, you’re losing clients who should be working with you. Ryan and Brook break down why sales isn’t about “convincing”—it’s about guiding.[50:37] Mistake #5: Thinking Like a Coach, Not a Business OwnerYou’re not just a coach—you’re an entrepreneur. The fastest-growing coaching businesses don’t just focus on their craft; they master marketing, sales, systems, and leadership.

Feb 14, 2025 • 14min
Fast Five for Friday: Volume vs. Volatility, The 7 Frequencies, and Finding Your Flow Time
Episode Highlights: [00:11] Volume Creates StabilityIf your results feel inconsistent, you might not have a sales or marketing problem—you might just need more volume. Ryan explains why success often comes down to increasing output.[02:11] Resonance Over UnderstandingInspired by The Seven Frequencies of Communication, Brook shares a key insight: it’s not just about making people understand—it’s about making them feel. True influence happens at the level of resonance.[04:23] What You Give Energy to GrowsRyan and Brook discuss a quote from Ralph Waldo Emerson: "The only thing that can grow is the thing you give energy to." Where is your focus right now? Because that’s exactly what’s expanding in your life and business.[06:29] The Myth of MultitaskingBrook shares his recent shift away from multitasking and how focused work—especially during uninterrupted weekend hours—has led to massive productivity breakthroughs.[09:36] The Long-Form Content TakeoverRyan drops eye-opening stats proving that long-form content is outperforming short-form, including:55% of podcast listeners complete full episodes.LinkedIn articles get 3X more engagement than short posts.YouTube long-form videos (10+ minutes) get 400% more watch time than shorts for educational content.

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Feb 11, 2025 • 42min
The Truth Behind Objections and How to Handle Them Like a Pro
Explore the psychology behind objections in sales and why asking the right questions leads to better outcomes. Discover how fear often underpins resistance, and learn to navigate these moments with empathy. Uncover a powerful approach to transforming limiting beliefs into positive momentum. Hear a life-changing sales call story that shifted a sales perspective. Finally, grasp why authentic communication trumps memorized scripts, paving the way for meaningful connections in sales.

Feb 7, 2025 • 11min
Fast Five for Friday: Selling First, Pivoting Fast, and The Importance of Stepping Away
Episode Highlights: [00:01] Take a Chance: Stop Settling for GoodAre you playing it safe in your business? Ryan challenges listeners to stop clinging to what’s comfortable and start pursuing greatness—even if it means taking risks.[02:13] Business Should Be FunSuccess doesn’t have to mean struggle. Ryan explains why building a business should be both hard and enjoyable, and how fun is a key ingredient to long-term sustainability.[04:43] Avoid the Blockbuster Trap: Adapt or Get Left BehindA powerful quote from Peter Thiel: “In a world of rapid change, the most dangerous thing is to keep doing what worked in the past.” Learn how to spot when strategies are becoming outdated and how to evolve before your business gets left behind.[06:27] Sell First, Then BuildOne of the biggest mistakes entrepreneurs make is building a program before testing the market. Ryan shares why professional entrepreneurs sell first and refine their offers based on real demand.[08:29] Be Present with FamilyThe grind never stops—but that doesn’t mean you should always be thinking about work. Ryan reflects on the importance of putting business aside to truly connect with family and loved ones.

Feb 4, 2025 • 46min
Engage, Personalize, Convert: The Secrets of Quiz Marketing with Maxwell Nee
Episode Highlights:[00:01] Guest Introduction: Maxwell Nee, CRO of ScoreAppMaxwell shares his journey from corporate finance burnout to becoming an entrepreneur and the CRO of ScoreApp, a platform transforming lead generation through quiz marketing.[01:19] Transitioning to CoachingDiscover how Maxwell transitioned from consulting to coaching by addressing client mindset barriers and embracing adaptability.[04:28] Keys to Scaling a Coaching BusinessLearn how Maxwell and his team built a $2M coaching business by leveraging teamwork, mentorship, and a focus on accelerating the learning curve.[09:34] Building Sellable BusinessesMaxwell highlights the challenges of traditional coaching business models and explains how focusing on scalable, machine-like systems can create equity and freedom.[14:38] Quiz Marketing and Lead GenerationExplore the power of quiz marketing, ScoreApp's role in personalized engagement, and how this approach cuts through the noise to drive conversions.[28:06] How ScoreApp WorksMaxwell details ScoreApp’s features, including AI-driven campaign creation, native integrations, and tools for personalized client interactions.[35:20] Advice for Coaches in TransitionPractical guidance for coaches juggling a day job or facing entrepreneurial struggles, with a focus on alignment and long-term success.[43:54] Free Resource: "Scorecard Marketing" BookMaxwell introduces a free resource for listeners, providing practical steps to harness quiz marketing effectively.Links Mentioned:Scorecard Marketing Book: Get a free copy of this Amazon bestseller, which breaks down the principles of quiz marketing and how to implement it in your business. Visit: https://scoreapp.com/book

Jan 31, 2025 • 11min
Fast Five for Friday 013: Lessons from Chess, Asking for Help, and Dream 100 Clients
Episode Highlights:[00:00] Chess as a Life and Business StrategyBrook shares how losing to his 12-year-old daughter at chess revealed the power of strategy and the importance of learning proven winning approaches in life and business.[01:19] The Power of Asking for HelpRyan recounts a lesson from his daughter’s theater audition, highlighting how fear of embarrassment holds many people back from asking for the guidance they need to succeed.[03:42] The Who vs. The How in BusinessBrook discusses the balance between finding the right people (the who) and mastering the right strategies (the how), emphasizing that both are critical for long-term success.[04:55] Where Will Your Habits Lead You?A powerful reflection question: With my current daily habits, where will I be in 5, 10, or 20 years? Ryan shares how this mindset shift can help in business, personal growth, and even sales conversations.[07:09] The Dream 100: One Client Can Change EverythingBrook shares a behind-the-scenes story from Tony Robbins' Dream 100 strategy, illustrating how one connection can transform an entire business—and why you might already be just one or two degrees away from the right opportunity.

Jan 28, 2025 • 55min
Podcast Launch Secrets: Allison Hare's Success Blueprint for Coaches & Experts
Episode Highlights[00:00] Introducing Allison HareRyan welcomes Allison Hare, a podcast expert, award-winning podcaster, and longtime collaborator, as they discuss her journey from broadcasting aspirations to podcasting success.[02:52] Discovering the Power of VoiceAllison shares how she found her passion for podcasting and why helping others amplify their voices has become her mission.[10:26] Pursuing Dreams After SetbacksEncouragement for those revisiting shelved dreams, with Allison offering advice on rediscovering purpose and building a meaningful podcast.[18:31] Lessons From Five Years of PodcastingAllison reveals her biggest lessons, from embracing imperfections to crafting authentic content that connects deeply with audiences.[28:00] Authentic Connection Through PodcastingWhy podcasts are powerful tools for creating trust, building relationships, and engaging listeners in a meaningful way.[38:49] Busting Podcast MythsAllison dispels common misconceptions about the podcasting world, emphasizing its untapped potential for coaches and experts.[45:08] Introducing the Podcast Launch ProgramRyan and Allison unveil their Podcast Launch Program, a step-by-step guide designed to help coaches and experts successfully launch their podcasts with clarity, connection, and confidence.Links Mentioned:Podcast Launch Program Waitlist: Join the waitlist at www.profitablecoach.io/podcastlaunch

Jan 24, 2025 • 11min
Fast Five for Friday: From Headphones to High Standards, Quiz Funnels, and Watering Seeds
Episode Highlights:[00:00] Leveling Up with High StandardsBrook shares how upgrading his headphones led to questioning where else he was settling in life and making changes to elevate his standards.[02:03] Creating Selfless ContentInsights from Gary Vee on the importance of creating content that serves the audience rather than self-serving agendas, with a focus on value and impact.[04:50] Quiz Funnels: Interactive MarketingRyan dives into the power of quiz funnels, highlighting their personalized, interactive nature and their potential to engage audiences. Inspired by his conversation with Maxwell Nee about ScoreApp.[06:52] Pursuit Over OutcomesRyan reflects on the value of the journey and becoming your best self, emphasizing the importance of focusing on the pursuit rather than being fixated on big achievements.[08:45] Watering Seeds in BusinessLessons from Chet Holmes’ The Ultimate Sales Machine and the importance of patience and persistence in cultivating relationships that lead to transformational growth.Links Mentioned:ScoreApp: Learn more about interactive quiz funnels at https://scoreapp.com

Jan 22, 2025 • 47min
From Drained to Dynamic: How to Cultivate and Sustain Peak Performance
Episode Highlights[00:01] IntroductionRyan and Brook explore how to transition from feeling drained to dynamic by cultivating and sustaining energy. They dispel myths about energy being fixed and focus on generating it intentionally.[01:37] Nutrition and Emotional EnergyDive into the role of nutrition, mindset, and emotional triggers in fostering peak energy levels, with tips on turning positive experiences into lasting fuel.[05:01] Prime Time Morning RoutinesDiscover how intentional "prime time" routines can align your mind, body, and spirit to set the tone for a day of peak performance.[13:07] Outcome-Driven Meeting PrepUncover how projecting outcomes and planning for each meeting conserves energy, enhances focus, and avoids decision fatigue.[16:11] Managing Decision FatigueRyan shares actionable strategies to minimize decision fatigue, anchor habits, and save energy for high-priority tasks.[19:06] Optimizing Evening RoutinesTips for creating an effective evening routine to manage blue light exposure, set work boundaries, and ensure restorative sleep.[25:21] Environment and EnergyPractical advice on optimizing your physical workspace to reduce distractions, boost creativity, and conserve energy.[39:13] Movement and the Non-Workout WorkoutLearn simple movement strategies to integrate into your day, keeping energy high and your body engaged without lengthy workouts.[42:19] Connecting to Purpose and VisionRyan and Brook emphasize the critical role of aligning your daily activities with your vision to sustain energy and achieve peak performance.


