
The UK Psych Health and Safety Podcast
Discover the antidote to "wellbeing washing" with our podcast!
Hosted by Sheila Lord from BMR Health and Wellbeing and Dr. Jacqui Wilmshurst, a Chartered Psychologist specializing in Psychological Health, Safety, and Wellbeing at work.
Join us as we delve into the core of real workplace wellbeing, moving beyond mere add-ons to integrate good work practices throughout your organisation. We explore psychological health and safety's significance and offer actionable steps for businesses to elevate their wellbeing support with a practical and proactive approach.
Each week, we're joined by guests from HR, academia, health and safety, and senior business leadership, sharing their valuable experiences and insights. Whether you're an HR professional, a business leader, or dedicated to fostering a healthy work environment, this podcast is for you.
Latest episodes

Oct 11, 2022 • 41min
Management Development is Essential - With Derek Mowbray
This week on the UK Psych Health & Safety podcast, Sheila Lord is joined by Derek Mowbray, Director at The Management Advisory Service (MAS), and a charted psychologist who is passionate about building and sustaining positive work cultures.
They are discussing how leaders and managers can build and sustain cultures and exhibit behaviours that lead to trust, commitment and engagement, and as a consequence produce high-level performance in individuals and their organisations.

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Sep 27, 2022 • 45min
How Behavioural Science Can Be Used To Change Behaviour - With Bob Cummins
In today's podcast, Sheila Lord has a fascinating conversation with Bob Cummins, Executive Director of Sodak, about how companies can create a safer, healthier, and more effective place of work through behavioural insights. They also discuss the meaning of “behaviour” and Bob outlines the elements that influence other people's behaviour
Bob believes in using behavioural science to improve organisations through the behaviours of their people. In 2013 he formed SODAK, with the express aim of helping people understand people.

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Sep 13, 2022 • 43min
The Importance of Measuring Well-Being - with Richard Heron
This week on the UK Psych Health & Safety podcast, Sheila Lord and Peter Kelly are speaking to Richard Heron.
Richard has worked as the chief medical officer and the global head of health for BP the last 16 years. He’s a member of the national forum for health and safety, the National Health Service expert advisory group for health and wellbeing, and also an Honorary Fellow at Nottingham University.
Throughout this episode, they dive into numerous aspects of well-being in the workplace, and what organisations can do to improve well-being in the workplace.

Aug 24, 2022 • 40min
How do we get Organisations to improve their well-being - with Dr Christian Van Stolk
In this week's episode Sheila Lord and Peter Kelly are speaking to Dr Christian Van Stolk - Executive Vice President at RAND Europe. He has worked broadly on health and well-being. His work in the past has focused on working on the health and well-being of staff in the National Health Service in the UK and looking at the connection between productivity, health, and well-being outcomes.

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Aug 9, 2022 • 49min
Workplace Wellbeing - with Kevin Daniels
In this episode, Sheila Lord and Peter Kelly are talking to Kevin Daniels, Professor of Organisational Behaviour at the University of East Anglia about how, as employers, we go about prioritising the business case for wellbeing.
Kevin also tells us about a recent project he has been involved in Evolve Workplace Wellbeing which launched May 16th
Kevin has a background in occupational psychology and is a Fellow of the British Psychological Society, Academy of Social Sciences and Royal Society of Arts.
Kevin has led many projects funded by Economic and Social Research Council, Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council and the Health and Safety Executive amongst others.
He has held or holds editorial positions at the scientific journals: European Journal of Work and Organizational Psychology, Journal of Occupational and Organizational Psychology, Human Relations and British Journal of Management.

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Jul 26, 2022 • 1h 2min
Crossover Episode - People: Everyone's Business - With Lisa LLoyd
In this cross-over episode Sheila Lord and Lisa LLoyd, Chartered Psychologist & Psychotherapist and Founder of It's Time for Change, explore the ISO 45003 and how it can benefit employee experience.

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Jul 12, 2022 • 1h 10min
Crossover Episode - Rebranding Safety - With James MacPherson
This week Sheila joins James MacPherson Managing Director and Chief Operational Risk Consultant @ RiskFluent on his Rebranding Safety podcast.
Amongst over things they are discussing where mental health sits within an organisation and who has responsibility for it, ISO’s (how and who), behaviour and culture change and they give their thoughts on how mental health is currently being dealt with.

Jun 14, 2022 • 45min
How do we engage with Men on Mental Health - with Emily Pearson and Paul Bannister
In this special edition of the UK Psych Health and Safety Podcast, to mark Men's Health Week 2022, Sheila Lord has been speaking to Emily Pearson, Co-founder & Managing Director of Our Mind's Work and Paul Bannister, Director at ManHealth.
Emily is the founding manager of Our Minds Work & Paul is the founder of Man's Health and both work together to tackle male-specific stigma and normalize help-seeking behavior among men for ultimate mental wellness.
Amongst other things, they are discussing how we go about engaging with men on mental health when a lot of well-being initiatives are not male-focused and also talk about their Manbassador program.

Jun 7, 2022 • 44min
The Role of HR in Workplace Wellbeing - with Peter Cheese
In this episode Sheila Lord is speaking to Peter Cheese, CEO of the CIPD the professional body for HR and a fellow of the Australian HR Institute, about the role of HR in workplace well-being and the development into more cross-functional working with other disciplines such as wellbeing, H&S and Leadership.
Since January 2019, Peter has been co-chair of The Flexible Working Task Force, a partnership across government departments, business groups, trade unions and charities, to increase the uptake of flexible working. He is also Chair of Engage for Success and the What Works Centre for Wellbeing.
Peter writes and speaks widely on the development of HR, the future of work, and the key issues of leadership, culture and organisation, people and skills. In 2021, his book ‘The New World of Work’ was published, exploring the many factors shaping work, workplaces, workforces and our working lives, and the principles around which we can build a future that is good for people, for business and for societies.

May 24, 2022 • 44min
Mental Health First Aiders as part of an Organisation's Approach to Wellbeing - with Kevin Lyons
In this episode, Sheila Lord and Peter Kelly are speaking to Kevin Lyons, Senior HR Manager at Pearson Group about the role and value of mental health first aiders as part of an organisation's approach to wellbeing, and the structure and support needed for MHFA’s in the context of the changing nature of work.
Kevin drives many projects across the business including the global Mental Health First Aider Community and MHFA training programme within Pearson. Kevin is also involved in many diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives and he is passionate about wellbeing at work.