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Dive into the dynamic world of digital marketing with Amanda Vandiver and Adam Landis in “How I Grew This,” where we invite leaders in the space to explore how they overcome industry challenges to achieve growth. Expect insightful conversations that uncover the secrets of our guest’s success in the ever-evolving landscape of digital marketing.
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Jan 19, 2023 • 29min
Product Lead at ZipRecruiter: Akio Bandle - Mobile Product Management Foundations
In this episode of How I Grew This, Akio Bandle joins Mada Seghete to discuss ZipRecruiter's growth journey, the company's experience with user acquisition for mobile apps, transitioning to remote work and getting into product management.
Akio is currently the Product Lead at ZipRecruiter. Before joining the company, he worked in various organizations, from small startups to large enterprises. Akio is an experienced product manager, product advisor, and marketing analyst.

Jan 12, 2023 • 31min
[Greatest Hits] Katherine Kelly, VP of Higher Education Marketing at Handshake - Enhancing Career Opportunities Through Mobile Software
In this episode of How I Grew This, Mada is joined by Katherine Kelly, VP of Higher Education Marketing at Handshake, to discuss how Handshake leverages mobile growth opportunities in higher education and the job market.
Katherine started her career working in higher education and moved over to tech. She was an associate producer at ESPN, an Instructor of Design History, and a Research Assistant at The Victoria and Albert Museum. Katherine was also an Editor, Writer, and Host of her web series, ‘Just the Tips’.

Jan 5, 2023 • 32min
[Greatest Hits] Head of User Acquisition @ Hopper: Makoto Rheault-Kihara- Strategic Paid Social, Massive Growth & The Culture That Empowers It
Makoto Rheault-Kihara leads user acquisition at Hopper, one of the fastest-growing travel apps with over 60 million in sales to date. Makoto was previously the Director of Marketing at Cruisehub, an OTA aiming to modernize the cruise industry and lead search engine marketing at Busbud, a bus travel booking platform in 80 countries.
Hopper differentiates its paid social strategy by focusing on user acquisition AND long-term trust through investing in paid social and other mobile ad channels. They use Facebook as the primary focus of their paid social ads with TikTok as a growing secondary channel.
Paid social is becoming a lot more abstract and therefore more creative. Makoto believes paid TikTok ads must be kept fresh, platform-focused, and generated at a higher frequency.
The pandemic did affect the travel industry but Hopper still achieved a 110% YoY growth last year and is on track to do over $1B of business this year. They did this by following a diversification strategy based on customer needs and expanded into hotels and car rentals.
Hopper’s customer-obsessed culture and self-contained, autonomous teams have helped them grow multiple product arms simultaneously. A weekly catch-up call and an executive team focused on cross-team communication help these siloed teams at Hopper learn from each other’s challenges and successes.
Sometimes ads that marketers like don’t appeal to actual customers and may end up performing worse than some simple customer-oriented ads. Over time, Hopper moved to these customer-centric ad creatives which helped them reduce expensive failures and triple their RPM (revenue per 1000 impressions).
At Hopper, Makoto focuses on maximizing the overall contribution margin of a cohort and on-target rate to check their ability to drive revenue from specific target purchases or user actions.
Because Hopper diversified across three generic categories (hotels, flights, car rentals), their ad targeting still focuses on great creatives and has not changed much since IDFA deprecation in iOS 14.5.
Interested in joining the Hopper team? Click here to check out their open positions! https://www.hopper.com/careers/

Dec 29, 2022 • 38min
[Greatest Hits] Head of Lifecycle Marketing @ Calm: Sue Cho- Generating Power Users with Data & Email
Today we’re joined by Sue Cho, who has been the Head of Lifecycle Marketing at Calm for three years. For over a decade, Sue has focused on all their engagement, retention, and conversion. In this episode, Sue talks about everything from career advice, her current work at Calm, her vision for the team, and her badass dog Lizzy.
Sue starts by telling us about her radical decision to move to the mountains, how the lockdown period was great for Calm’s business and how it suited her personality.
Next, she shares her accidental journey into the world of email marketing and how she found her community in this job. Sue advocates embracing a data-driven approach, especially when it comes to matters of subjective opinion.
At Calm, Sue emphasizes finding the right metrics that move the needle on business goals and giving Calm’s users a consistent experience regardless of their platform.
She also highlights an exciting challenge that she’s working on that, if executed well, would help them avoid Apple and Google conversion taxes.
She talks about her team and provides insightful advice for email marketers to improve email open rates, and even shares a cool exercise for this.
Sue describes her process for activating new users and converting them into power users through gentle yet personalized reminders.
Sue also shares how she developed authority in her field with a combination of her Asian-American values of hard work and perseverance, her opinionated nature, and a data-driven approach to her work.
Her entrepreneurial attitude shines through as she talks about why she started the San Francisco chapter of the Email Geek’s club. In the rapid-fire round, Sue shares the one app she would never delete from her phone, an animal she would love to talk to, her badass dog Lizzy, and the most unlikely app on her phone.

Dec 22, 2022 • 37min
[Greatest Hits] Head of Growth Marketing at Cruise: Alex McNamara - Creating a Marketing Strategy From the Ground Up
In today's episode, Alex McNamara shares his unique approach to solving client problems and delivering growth for brands.
Alex is the Head of Growth Marketing at Cruise, leading the charge for Cruise's first customers. Before joining Cruise, he was the Director of Growth at iProspect, with responsibility for the overall direction of pitch strategy, media planning, and activation.
Alex shares how he and his team are building Cruise's marketing strategy and details the campaign he contributed to for Intel featuring Tom Brady.
He also discusses the power of feedback, learning from mistakes, and leadership for personal and professional growth.
Along with Gosha Khuchua, Alex hosts the 30 Minutes CMO podcast, where he talks with marketing and advertising experts.

Dec 15, 2022 • 28min
[Greatest Hits] Head of Growth @ Licious: Prathamesh Dembla- Compound Interest, Lockdown Growth & Why Marketers Should Also Teach
Today we’re joined by Prathamesh Dembla, the Head of Growth at Licious. Prior to Licious, Prathamesh was Head of Digital Marketing at Milk Basket. In this episode, Prathamesh talks about the positive effects of both lockdowns, working from home and one key skill that has benefited reliable professionals during these challenging times. He also shares what has helped him develop his business acumen and how his love for teaching makes him a better marketer.
Prathamesh discusses various growth hacks he has implemented at Licious and how Branch has helped them with the attribution and channel optimization of these strategies. Prathamesh also stresses how “atomic personalization” helps them with conversion rate optimization.
Prathamesh then goes on to share key takeaways from his experience as a co-founder of Infinity Minds, a personal development company for children.
In terms of risk-taking, Prathamesh breaks down how he decides which risks to take and how startups can avoid “analysis paralysis” with an execution-first mindset. As Head of Growth at Licious, Prathamesh talks about his biggest challenge during and after a period of hypergrowth amid COVID-19 lockdowns.
Prathamesh then finally talks about his leadership style and the power of compounding in business, relationships and health.

Dec 8, 2022 • 29min
[Greatest Hits] Co-Founder and CEO at Facily: Diego Dzodan - Leveraging Growth Opportunities in E-Commerce
Diego Dzodan, the co-founder and CEO of Facily, joins us in the next episode of How I Grew This podcast. Before starting Facily, Diego worked for Facebook and Instagram as the VP of Latam. He spent ten years at SAP, where he focused on driving growth across countries by strengthening relationships with customers while working with them to innovate and deliver business value.
Facily is the leading social commerce marketplace in Brazil. It operates in nine Brazilian cities and has over 12,000 pick-up points. Faci.ly focuses on lower-income segments of the market and tries to offer the best possible prices to its consumers.
To achieve that, Facily connects the consumer and the producer and helps with logistics. Facily also asks their customers to form groups to buy at better prices.
One of the main priorities Faci.ly has is getting the operations on track to continue to scale and increase the efficiency under which it can deliver orders. The company wants to expand in all major cities across Brazil and test in Mexico and Colombia.
Working in the corporate world results in gaining many valuable insights and lessons when starting a business. You encounter all the positive and negative aspects of the business world. It becomes easier to think big when you have seen big companies perform well and you learn how to plan for the long-term. But one of the main lessons that exceed the corporate world is learning to stay close to details and build something different from what the market offers.
Leaving a good job and starting a business requires you to be prepared from many angles. First, take your finances into account. Second, having your family's support is crucial. Third, you need to be emotionally ready to take that step.

Dec 1, 2022 • 29min
Experience Transformation Leader at Citizens Bank: Deepak Nair - Leading a Winning Digital Transformation Strategy in the Banking Sector
In this episode of How I Grew This, Deepak Nair joins Mada Seghete to discuss how banks can drive digital transformation and innovation strategies and deliver a best-in-class digital experience to customers.
Deepak is the Experience Transformation Leader at Citizens Bank and is responsible for managing enterprise transformation journeys that produce exceptional customer experience while reducing operational costs. He has twenty-plus years of experience in digital, marketing, CX, communications, and analytics and has been nominated for being one of the most influential industry contributors by the San Francisco Charter of Digital Analytics Association.

Nov 24, 2022 • 33min
[Greatest Hits] CMO at Paired: Gessica Bicego - Growth-Hacking Branding Tips for Your App
Branding means more than simply creating a logo and placing some ads. As Jeff Bezos said: "Your brand is what other people say about you when you're not in the room". The main question is how to do it successfully.
In this episode, Gessica talks about some of the best practices and channels for building your brand.
Gessica is a computer scientist with a deep passion for marketing and is currently the CMO at Paired, an app that focuses on building deeper connections with your partner.

Nov 17, 2022 • 25min
Chief Medical Officer at Ovia Health: Leslie Saltzman - Driving Growth in the Healthcare Industry
In this episode of How I Grew This, Leslie Saltzman joins Mada Seghete to discuss digital and data-driven strategies to drive business development and patient experience in the healthcare industry.
Leslie is the Chief Medical Officer at Ovia Health and a physician leader with expertise in devising and implementing data-driven strategies to improve clinical outcomes, reduce healthcare costs, and identify target patients. She received her D.O. from the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine and her MBA from NYU Stern School of Business.