

Retail Gets Real
National Retail Federation
Retail impacts everyone, everywhere, every day. Join the National Retail Federation for authentic, insightful conversations with the industry's most interesting people. Hear retail executives, industry experts, entrepreneurs and influencers discuss trends, their career stories and the future of retail. Learn more at retailgetsreal.com.
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Aug 20, 2025 • 16min
389. Purpose-driven retail: Stories of impact from leading brands
Purpose-driven retail is more than a trend — it’s reshaping industries, inspiring innovation and delivering tangible benefits to people and the planet. In this special compilation episode, Retail Gets Real revisits some of our most inspiring conversations with leaders who are using their businesses as forces for good. From rescuing food and reducing waste to building sustainable supply chains, uplifting communities and listening to the next generation, these stories highlight how value-driven strategies create lasting impact.(00:00:00) Starbucks’ nationwide food rescue program(00:03:52) Whole Foods’ approach to quality and accessibility(00:06:59) IKEA’s full-circle sustainability strategy(00:09:18) Kendra Scott’s model for fashion-driven philanthropy(00:10:58) LEGO’s community-building through creativity(00:13:20) Gen Z’s influence on the future of retailThe National Retail Federation is the world’s largest retail trade association.Every day, we passionately stand up for the people, policies and ideas that help retail succeed.Resources:• Learn more about Retail’s Big Show in NYC• Become an NRF member and join the world’s largest retail trade association• Learn about our retail education platform, NRF Foundation, at nrffoundation.org• Learn about retail advocacy at nrf.com/advocacy• Find more episodes at retailgetsreal.comRelated:• 386: Inside Starbucks’ commitment to thriving communities• 379: Whole Foods’ holistic approach to merchandising and customer service• 368: How IKEA innovates in sustainability and customer experience• 346: How Kendra Scott delivers on a ‘fashion-for-philanthropy’ vision• 373: How LEGO builds community and embraces innovation• 361: How Gen Z is redefining retail

Aug 5, 2025 • 28min
388. Replay: How Pinterest wins with personalized content
Consumers turn to Pinterest for inspiration on everything from design and fashion to meal prep and so much more. Rachel Hardy, director of consumer product marketing for Pinterest, joins us to share how the brand captures such a wide and engaged audience. We explore the consumer outlook and emerging trends for 2025, including mobile spending, AI optimization and personalized shopping. (00:00:00) Introductions(00:01:26) Pinterest’s young and engaged audience (00:03:04) Hardy’s career journey (00:06:20) Emerging consumer behaviors (00:12:16) Pinterest predicts 2025 trends (00:15:11) Retail challenges and opportunities for 2025 (00:21:24) Hardy’s learnings and inspirations The National Retail Federation is the world’s largest retail trade association.Every day, we passionately stand up for the people, policies and ideas that help retail succeed.Resources:• pinterest.com• Get ready for Retail’s Big Show in NYC• Become an NRF member and join the world’s largest retail trade association• Learn about our retail education platform, NRF Foundation, at nrffoundation.org• Learn about retail advocacy at nrf.com/advocacy• Find more episodes at retailgetsreal.comRelated:• Retail trends to watch in 2025• What to know about the consumer in 2025

Jul 22, 2025 • 22min
387. Behind the data: Insights from NRF’s top economists
Jack Kleinhenz, NRF's chief economist for over 15 years, and Mark Mathews, Executive Director of Research, dive into the forces shaping the U.S. economy. They discuss the critical role of accurate forecasting amid economic uncertainty and the transformative power of AI on retail operations and consumer behavior. The conversation also tackles the shift toward a global retail landscape and how evolving shopping habits are influenced by technology. Insights on literature and advice for students round out this engaging exploration of economics and retail.

Jul 8, 2025 • 17min
386. Inside Starbucks’ commitment to thriving communities
Starbucks may be best known for coffee, but its community impact goes far deeper. In this episode of Retail Gets Real, we’re joined by Kelly Goodejohn, vice president and chief social impact officer at Starbucks, to explore how the global brand is redefining what it means to serve communities — not just with beverages, but with bold action, local investment, and sustainability at scale.(00:00:00) Leading with purpose at Starbucks(00:04:09) How Starbucks turns food waste into community support(00:06:55) Scaling FoodShare and setting the standard for others(00:12:07) Finding purpose in retail and coffee culture(00:15:27) The future of retail’s social impactThe National Retail Federation is the world’s largest retail trade association.Every day, we passionately stand up for the people, policies and ideas that help retail succeed.Resources:• Starbucks Hunger Relief: about.starbucks.com/hunger-relief• The Starbucks Foundation: about.starbucks.com/the-starbucks-foundation• Become an NRF member and join the world’s largest retail trade association• Learn about our retail education platform, NRF Foundation, at nrffoundation.org• Learn about retail advocacy at nrf.com/advocacy• Find more episodes at retailgetsreal.comRelated:• How digital transformation at Levi’s and Starbucks is improving customer experience• How Target’s consumer-first strategy drives success

Jun 24, 2025 • 23min
385. Lessons from a young retail leader
Meet one of the young leaders shaping the future of retail. Robert Davison Long was the 2022 NRF Foundation Next Generation Scholarship top recipient and he is now the team manager for Gucci in Tysons Corner, Va.. He joins us to talk about his personal journey in retail, how to “romance a product” and the lessons C-suite executives can learn from up-and-coming retail professionals. (00:00:00) Davison Long’s retail history (00:04:44) Romancing the product(00:06:02) Perspectives of a young leader (00:13:13) Tools to support young professionals (00:16:23) Davison Long’s favorite Gucci products (00:17:38) How C-Suite executives can connect with young leaders(00:20:33) Davison Long’s inspirations The National Retail Federation is the world’s largest retail trade association.Every day, we passionately stand up for the people, policies and ideas that help retail succeed.Resources:• gucci.com• Learn more about Retail’s Big Show in NYC• Become an NRF member and join the world’s largest retail trade association• Learn about our retail education platform, NRF Foundation, at nrffoundation.org• Learn about retail advocacy at nrf.com/advocacy• Find more episodes at retailgetsreal.comRelated:• Championing Leaders in Retail • NRF Foundation awards top scholarship to Columbia College Chicago junior

Jun 10, 2025 • 25min
384. The digital strategy behind Mack Weldon’s growth
The story of Mack Weldon begins with a moment many men know all too well — standing in the underwear aisle, overwhelmed by choice and underwhelmed by experience. In this episode of Retail Gets Real, Brian Berger, founder and CEO of Mack Weldon, shares how frustration as a consumer inspired him to reinvent men’s basics with a focus on smart design, technical innovation, and a radically improved shopping experience.(00:00:00) The origin of Mack Weldon(00:04:58) The story behind the brand name(00:07:30) Growing the brand by knowing the customer(00:12:44) Navigating the AI era as a retail founder(00:19:53) Father’s Day picks and the future of retailThe National Retail Federation is the world’s largest retail trade association.Every day, we passionately stand up for the people, policies and ideas that help retail succeed.Resources:• Mack Weldon: mackweldon.com• Become an NRF member and join the world’s largest retail trade association• Learn about our retail education platform, NRF Foundation, at nrffoundation.org• Learn about retail advocacy at nrf.com/advocacy• Find more episodes at retailgetsreal.comRelated:• 336. Michelle Gass on leadership, taking risks and her vision for Levi’s• 376. How Target’s consumer-first strategy drives success• 367. How Kraft Heinz deploys omnichannel strategies across emerging global markets• 349. How Arc’teryx is reaching new heights while staying loyal to its core customers

May 27, 2025 • 21min
383. Amplifying the voices of small business owners
Small businesses power retail—they make up 98% of retailers in the country. Right now, small companies are grappling with economic and political uncertainty and facing an existential threat from tariffs. We talk to NRF vice president of advocacy and engagement Meghan Cruz about the devastating impact of tariffs and what NRF is doing to advocate for small businesses. Plus, we hear directly from small business owners who share their stories. (00:00:00) Introductions(00:01:57) How NRF advocates for small business owners (00:05:33) The devastating impact of tariffs on small businesses (00:07:27) Aaron Brown’s story (00:08:58) Bob Jones’ story (00:11:04) Lisa-Jae Eggert’s story (00:12:23) Making an impact with policymakers (00:16:41) Cruz’s message to small business owners The National Retail Federation is the world’s largest retail trade association.Every day, we passionately stand up for the people, policies and ideas that help retail succeed.Resources:• Get involved with the NRF Action Center • Learn more about Retail’s Big Show in NYC• Become an NRF member and join the world’s largest retail trade association• Learn about our retail education platform, NRF Foundation, at nrffoundation.org• Learn about retail advocacy at nrf.com/advocacy• Find more episodes at retailgetsreal.comRelated:• 5 things to know about tariffs • Small retailers react to threat of new tariffs • Voter perspectives: 4 ways tariffs put small businesses at risk

May 13, 2025 • 30min
382. How San Diego District Attorney Summer Stephan combats organized retail crime
Organized retail crime (ORC) is not a victimless crime — it can have a devastating impact on the real people behind retailers. Summer Stephan, San Diego County District Attorney, joins us to discuss the fight against organized retail crime. We explore laws and initiatives to combat the insidious issue, plus what local businesses can do to protect themselves and their employees. (00:00:54) Introductions(00:01:41) Stephan’s Law Background (00:03:41) The Human Price Of Organized Retail Crime (00:09:10) The Reality Of Retail Crime (00:13:13) Initiatives To Combat Organized Retail Crime (00:22:01) The Role Of Local Businesses In Confronting Crime (00:24:47) The Evolution Of Organized Retail Crime The National Retail Federation is the world’s largest retail trade association.Every day, we passionately stand up for the people, policies and ideas that help retail succeed.Resources:• Learn more about NRF Protect• Register for NRF Nexus at nrf.com/nexus and use code RGR20 for 20% off• Get ready for Retail’s Big Show in NYC• Become an NRF member and join the world’s largest retail trade association• Learn about our retail education platform, NRF Foundation, at nrffoundation.org• Learn about retail advocacy at nrf.com/advocacy• Find more episodes at retailgetsreal.comRelated:• Retailers battle nearly $100 billion in shrink • NRF’s FIght Retail Crime Day wins Reed Award for Best Lobby Day • 3 ways to fight retail crimeProduced by Crate Media.

Apr 29, 2025 • 27min
381. The innovators driving the future of retail
One thing is constant in retail: change. Innovation is the cornerstone of the industry. We’re joined by Seth Webb, executive vice president of Tusk Strategies, and Sucharita Kodali, vice president and principal analyst of Forrester Research, to discuss the transformative trends, cutting-edge technologies, and emerging solution providers that are shaping the future of retail. We explore generative and autonomous AI, robotics, resale, and more top-of-mind topics. (00:00:00) Introductions(00:01:42) Leaders in innovation and technology(00:06:48) The most transformative trends for the retail industry (00:09:15) AI’s profound impact on retail (00:19:06) The role of robotics in retail (00:23:00) What excites them about the future of retailThe National Retail Federation is the world’s largest retail trade association.Every day, we passionately stand up for the people, policies and ideas that help retail succeed.Resources:• NRF 2025 Innovators Showcase • Reverse Logistics Association • Get ready for Retail’s Big Show in NYC• Become an NRF member and join the world’s largest retail trade association• Learn about our retail education platform, NRF Foundation, at nrffoundation.org• Learn about retail advocacy at nrf.com/advocacy• Find more episodes at retailgetsreal.comRelated:• How the NRF 2025 Innovators Showcase can help you drive revenue and build crucial partnerships • A snapshot into the latest retail tech breakthroughs Produced by Crate Media.

Apr 15, 2025 • 25min
380. How Vera Bradley transformed a legacy brand
Vera Bradley, the beloved purse, travel and accessory retailer, recently refreshed their brand look and strategy to increase brand awareness and expand their consumer profile. Vera Bradley’s CEO, Jackie Ardrey, joins us to discuss the brand’s transformation, the Vera Bradley customer and how the company stays ahead in the ever-evolving retail industry. She also shares what she loves most about working in retail and her impactful career advice. (00:00:00) Introductions(00:00:39) Highlights of the NRF Big Show (00:01:39) Ardrey’s career background (00:07:50) The pace of change in retail (00:09:30) Vera Bradley’s transformation journey (00:15:05) Balancing brand loyalty with an expanding customer base (00:17:49) Facing the unpredictability of consumers (00:21:39) Ardrey’s best career advice The National Retail Federation is the world’s largest retail trade association.Every day, we passionately stand up for the people, policies and ideas that help retail succeed.Resources:• verabradley.com• Get ready for Retail’s Big Show in NYC• Become an NRF member and join the world’s largest retail trade association• Learn about our retail education platform, NRF Foundation, at nrffoundation.org• Learn about retail advocacy at nrf.com/advocacy• Find more episodes at retailgetsreal.comRelated:• What to know about the consumer in 2025Produced by Crate Media.