
AI and I
Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the show. Join us to discover how AI is changing how we think about our world—and ourselves.
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Latest episodes

Jun 26, 2025 • 46min
How We Built Our AI Email Assistant: A Behind-the-Scenes Look at Cora
In this engaging discussion, Kieran Klaassen, General Manager at Cora, and Brandon Gell, Head of the Product Studio at Every, take us behind the scenes of their innovative AI email assistant, Cora. They reveal their unique journey, including memorable moments like using Cora at a retreat in Nice. The duo shares how Cora evolved from a conceptual prototype into a user-friendly tool that intelligently categorizes and summarizes emails. They also highlight Cora’s ability to draft replies and streamline email management, paving the way for stress-free communication.

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Jun 18, 2025 • 54min
Inside OpenAI: Coaching the People Creating AGI | Joe Hudson, Founder of The Art of Accomplishment
Joe Hudson, a coach for OpenAI executives, discusses the emotional rollercoaster of creating AGI. He reveals how the anxiety of potentially being replaced by AI prompts profound self-reflection. Hudson highlights the parallels between personal growth and the transformative journey of AI development, emphasizing compassion and resilience. He also delves into emotional intelligence's role in decision-making, the significance of self-trust, and the balance between responsibility and love in navigating life's complexities. Hudson's insights encourage embracing uncertainty as a catalyst for transformation.

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Jun 11, 2025 • 54min
How Two Engineers Ship Like a Team of 15 With AI Agents | Kieran Klaassen, Nityesh Agarwal
Kieran Klaassen, General Manager of Cora, and engineer Nityesh Agarwal discuss how they turbocharge productivity by integrating AI agents into their workflows. They share their success in shipping multiple features and updates in just one week by using tools like Claude Code. The duo highlights the transformative effects of AI on coding practices, improving efficiency in tasks such as diagnostics and project management. Kieran also ranks various AI coding assistants, showcasing the evolving landscape and practical applications of AI in software development.

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Jun 4, 2025 • 53min
The Future of AI in Medicine: From Rules to Intuition | Awais Aftab, Psychiatrist and writer
Awais Aftab, a clinical assistant professor and editor at Conversations in Critical Psychiatry, shares his insights on the challenges within contemporary psychiatry. He discusses the complexities of diagnosing OCD, revealing how rigid categories often fall short. Awais highlights scientific pluralism, advocating for diverse theoretical perspectives in understanding mental health. Delving into AI's potential, he explores how it can enhance diagnosis and treatment, promising a more nuanced approach to human psychology.

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May 28, 2025 • 31min
GitHub CEO on the AI Coding Arms Race: One Agent, 150M+ Devs
Thomas Dohmke, CEO of GitHub, dives into the competitive landscape of AI coding tools, highlighting GitHub Copilot's impressive 15 million users. He discusses whether this user base is an advantage or a barrier in the AI coding arms race. Dohmke reveals insights on the launch of a new autonomous coding agent intended to enhance developer efficiency. He also addresses the challenges of balancing support for both AI-native developers and traditional users while predicting the future of software development in an AI-driven world.

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May 20, 2025 • 28min
Kevin Scott on The Future of Programming, AI Agents, and Microsoft’s Big Bet on the Agentic Web
Kevin Scott, Microsoft CTO with 41 years of programming experience, shares his insights on the future of AI agents and software engineering. He discusses the critical role of Model Context Protocol (MCP), likening it to HTTP for agents, and emphasizes the need for a secure yet open ecosystem for innovation. Scott highlights the importance of equipping agents with tools and real-time data to enhance their functionality. He also advocates for proactive interactions with AI to tackle complex tasks, blending security with creativity in AI development.

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May 16, 2025 • 43min
OpenAI Launches Codex: An Autonomous Programming Agent
Alexander Embiricos, a product staff member at OpenAI, discusses the revolutionary Codex, an autonomous coding agent that can build features and fix bugs. He explains Codex’s user-friendly interface, designed for senior developers to streamline task delegation effectively. The conversation delves into OpenAI’s vision for a unified assistant that enhances programming, encourages an abundance mindset for managing tasks, and suggests a shift in developer roles towards more creative and strategic interactions with AI.

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May 14, 2025 • 1h 7min
The $10B Hedge Fund CEO Who’s Betting Big on AI | Will England, Walleye Capital
Will England, CEO and managing partner of Walleye Capital, a $10B hedge fund, dives deep into integrating AI into finance. He shares his bold move to make AI an essential part of operations, treating it like email. With 75% of his team using ChatGPT daily, he highlights how AI drives decision-making and journaling. Will discusses balancing AI efficiency with human critical thinking in writing, and the innovative 'data lake' concept for smarter organizational decisions, all while emphasizing the responsibility that comes with leveraging AI.

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May 7, 2025 • 54min
Jhana Meditation Silenced Her Mind—And Changed Her View On AI | Nadia Asparouhova, Author and researcher
Join Nadia Asparouhova, a writer and researcher of technology and culture, as she shares her transformative journey through Jhana meditation. She details how this practice allowed her to silence her inner voice, challenging the idea that self-talk defines humanity. Nadia explores the evolving concept of self, informed by cultural changes, and discusses the complex relationship between humans and AI, pondering how we might be more like AI than we think. Her insights delve into emotion regulation, profound joy, and even ‘anti-memes’ shaping societal progress.

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Apr 30, 2025 • 49min
The Next AI Wave Will Be Social, Not Solo | Sarah Tavel, Benchmark and ex-Pinterest
Sarah Tavel, a venture partner at Benchmark and former product manager at Pinterest, discusses the need for a social layer in AI tools like ChatGPT. She believes the next wave of consumer AI will harness social interactions to enhance user experiences. Drawing from her Pinterest experience, she emphasizes that product-driven founders will help bridge this gap. Tavel also shares her insights on identifying passionate founders and the importance of community in building successful AI products.