

THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST
Dominic Schlueter
The Running Effect is changing the way the world sees running.
Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport to share untold stories, elite insights, and powerful conversations that move the culture forward.
Whether you're chasing a personal best or dreaming bigger about what running can mean in your life, The Running Effect is your home for passion, performance, and possibility.
🚀 Join the movement that's reshaping running media.
More than a podcast — a revolution in how running is told, lived, and loved.
Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport to share untold stories, elite insights, and powerful conversations that move the culture forward.
Whether you're chasing a personal best or dreaming bigger about what running can mean in your life, The Running Effect is your home for passion, performance, and possibility.
🚀 Join the movement that's reshaping running media.
More than a podcast — a revolution in how running is told, lived, and loved.
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Feb 3, 2024 • 42min
Ben Flanagan Speaks After Running 13:04 To Hit The Olympic Standard In The 5k
Fresh off of nailing the Olympic Standard in the 5k, Ben Flanagan returns to the podcast!
If you're not familiar with Ben, he has slowly cemented himself as one of the best Canadian runners of all time in his few short years of being a professional runner. He is the Canadian half-marathon record holder with a time of 61:00 and has won the prestigious Falmouth Road Race three years in a row (gaining the name "The King of Falmouth" in the process). In addition, he won the 2018 NCAA 10k title while competing for the University of Michigan. Ben is currently sponsored by On Running and is a member of VNTC based out of Ann Arbor, Michigan.
In today's conversation, Ben recaps his historic race in Boston, what this race means to him, the buildup that went into it, getting married, his ambtions for 2024, his path to the Olmypics, and much more!
Tap into the Ben Flanagan Special.
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S H O W N O T E S
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Feb 1, 2024 • 46min
Kole Mathison On Becoming HOKA's First NIL Athlete & Making His Second US Team
Fresh off of qualifying for the World XC Championships, Kole Mathison returns to the podcast!
Kole placed second in the men's U20 8k final in 24:18.4 at the USATF Cross Country Championships at Pole Green Park in Mechanicsville, Va.
Last year, Kole helped team USA capture bronze at the World Athletics U20 Cross Country Championships in Bathurst, New South Wales, Australia, by placing 25th individually.
Kole also recently signed an NIL with HOKA and became their first NIL athlete.
In high school, Kole was absolutely dominant, winning the 2022 Foot Locker National Championships, winning 4 individual state titles in Indiana, and leading his team to two more, and being a 2xstate Gatorade POY.
Kole currently attends the University of Colorado Boulder, where he's a freshman.
In today's conversation, Kole recaps his performance at the USATF XC Championships, coming back from his first real injury of his career, recent lessons learned, signing an NIL with HOKA, and his ambitions for the coming months. Anytime Kole comes on the podcast, it's a banger!
Tap into the Kole Mathison Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
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Jan 30, 2024 • 42min
Paul Stafford On Running For The University Of Colorado & Launching A Coaching Business
Today on the podcast is Paul Stafford!
Paul is a senior at The University of Colorado Boulder. He formerly ran for Flordia State, where he significantly contributed to the program. Through these experiences, Paul has had the privilege of being under the prestigious Coach Bob Braman and Coach Mark Wetmore.
Paul holds PRs of 14:24 (5k), 23:20 (8k), and 30:10 in the 10k at altitude and on the grass. He was All-ACC in 2019 and 71st at NCAA XC 2019, & Top 20 in PAC-12 XC in 2023.
In today's conversation, Paul goes through his passion for coaching, thoughts on different training ideologies, his years at FSU/Colorado, his future ambitions, and much more!
This conversation has plenty of wisdom on how to train properly, how to take your running to the next level, and much more!
Tap into the Paul Stafford Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
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Jan 28, 2024 • 22min
Gabby Thomas on Track Beef, Being A Part Of The Netflix Track Series, Racing, & More.
A 20 minute clip from my conversation with Gabby Thomas which aired last week!
For those who aren't familiar with her:
Gabby is a 2xOlmypic Medalist (2021 Olympic Bronze medalist in the 200m & Silver medalist in the 4x100m Relay).
Gabby was the 2023 USATF Champion in the 200m and the 2021 US Olympic Trials Champion in 200m as well.
She most recently secured Silver at the 2023 World Championships in the 200m and Gold in the 4x100m relay.
Back in 2018, Gabby won the NCAA Indoor Championship in the 200m while representing Harvard. While at Harvard, Gabby studied neurobiology and global health as an undergraduate. She later got her Master's Degree in epidemiology from UT Austin.
Gabby holds PRs of 11.00 in the 100m, 21.69 in the 200m, 35.73 in the 300m, and 49.68 in the 400m.
Today's conversation was second to none. We cover so many things, from Gabby's journey in track to coffee to what it takes to be the best in track and field. We also discuss 2024, her being a part of the upcoming Netflix series on track, competing against Sha'Carri Richardson, and so much more!
Tap into the Gabby Thomas Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-Gabby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gabbythomas/

Jan 26, 2024 • 50min
The Road To Paris: Inside The Build To The Olympics With Conner Mantz
Today on the podcast is Conner Mantz!
Conner runs for NIKE and runs distances from the 1500m to Marathon. He is currently intently training for the 2024 US Olympic Marathon Trials, which will take place on February 3rd in Orlando, Flordia.
Previous to his professional running career, he competed for BYU, where he was a multiple-time NCAA Champion and debatably the greatest runner to ever come out of that program.
Conner holds PRs of 1:46.99 in the 800m, 3:36.29 in the 1500m, and 3:52.76 in the Mile.
In today's conversation, Conner and I discuss NCAA athletes running fast at altitude, his recent training, closing a workout in a 4:09 mile, being mentored by Jared Ward, his thoughts on the trials, and so much more!
Anytime I get to sit down with Conner is a good time. I loved getting a look inside his process as he goes into one of the biggest races of his life.
Tap into the Conner Mantz Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-2Before: Code: "THERUNNINGEFFECT30" for 30% off: https://2before.com/

Jan 24, 2024 • 58min
The Power Of Friendship: How Teammates Have Propelled Nathan Green To Great Heights | An Inside Look At The NCAA Champ's Journey
Today on the podcast is NCAA Champ Nathan Green!
Nathan was the 2023 NCAA Outdoor 1,500m Champion as well as the 2023 Pac-12 1,500m Champion. He's a 4xAll-American through his efforts indoors and out. He placed 7th at the US Championships in the 1500m this year. Back in 2022, Nathan became the U.S. Junior 1,500m Champion.
Nathan holds PRs of 1:46.99 in the 800m, 3:36.29 in the 1500m, and 3:52.76 in the Mile.
In high school, Nathan was one of the top recruits in the country, rated the No. 1 recruit in the nation by MileSplit. He was a five-time Gatorade Idaho Athlete of the Year and a nine-time Idaho State Champion. He set the Brooks PR Invite mile record in 2021 with a time of 4:01.76 … just 24 hours after the Brooks PR win in Renton, Wash., traveled to Hayward Field in Eugene and won the Nike Outdoor Nationals mile title for two national Mile wins in two days. He set a mile PR of 4:00.97 at 2,700 feet of elevation.
In today's conversation, Nathan and I document his journey in the sport, the unknown culture of UW, how much that culture and friendships mean to him, the power of friendships, winning NCAAs, his future ambitions in the sport, and so much more!
Tap into the Nathan Green Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
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Jan 22, 2024 • 1h 40min
The Inside Scoop With 2xOlympic Medalist, World & US Champion Gabby Thomas | Her Unique Journey, What It Takes To Be Great, Racing Sha'Carri, 2024 Hopes & More
The Gabby Thomas Special is here!
Today's episode is my favorite episode we've ever recorded. Gabby's willingness to go deep on a plethora of subjects made this one next level. Gabby has accomplished so much in the sport, so to have the opportunity to have a long-form conversation with her was a privilege and an honor.
For those who aren't familiar with her:
Gabby is a 2xOlmypic Medalist (2021 Olympic Bronze medalist in the 200m & Silver medalist in the 4x100m Relay).
Gabby was the 2023 USATF Champion in the 200m and the 2021 US Olympic Trials Champion in 200m as well.
She most recently secured Silver at the 2023 World Championships in the 200m and Gold in the 4x100m relay.
Back in 2018, Gabby won the NCAA Indoor Championship in the 200m while representing Harvard. While at Harvard, Gabby studied neurobiology and global health as an undergraduate. She later got her Master's Degree in epidemiology from UT Austin.
Gabby holds PRs of 11.00 in the 100m, 21.69 in the 200m, 35.73 in the 300m, and 49.68 in the 400m.
Today's conversation was second to none. We cover so many things, from Gabby's journey in track to coffee to what it takes to be the best in track and field. We also discuss 2024, her being a part of the upcoming Netflix series on track, competing against Sha'Carri Richardson, and so much more!
Tap into the Gabby Thomas Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-Gabby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gabbythomas/

Jan 20, 2024 • 36min
NIKE & German National Athlete Aaron Bienenfeld On The Power Of Betting On Yourself
Today on the podcast is Aaron Bienenfeld!
Aaron is a professional running for Nike, representing his home state of Germany.
At the University of Cincinnati, he was a five-time American Athletic Conference. Aaron finished his time in the NCAA as a 7-time All-American. He represented Germany at the 2019 U23 European XC Championships and finished 14th overall to help team finish in third place. He placed 32nd and 10th place at the European Half-World Champs.
Aaron holds PRs of 7:46 (3k), 13:19 (5k), 27:55 (10k), and 61:49 (Half-Marathon).
In today's conversation, Aaron walks me through his training at Alititude, missing the Houston Half, signing with Nike, running for Germany, his years in the NCAA, and so much more! A lot of good lessons and stories in this one.
Tap into the Aaron Bienenfeld Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-PILLIAR PERFORMANCE (CODE "DOMINIC" FOR 15% OFF): https://thefeed.com/collections/pillar-performance
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Jan 18, 2024 • 1h 12min
The Obsession Of Running With Zach Pogrob + Creating The Most Exclusive Run Club In The World
68 minutes of obsessing about running.
That's today's podcast.
And there's no better human to do this with than Mr. Obession himself, Zach Pogrob.
Zach has recently fallen in love with the sport of running and has thrown himself fully into the fire of seeing how far he can go in this sport. In his first Marathon, on next to no training Zach ran a 3:16:30 Marathon.
Zach has created next-level content over social media over the past few years and has amassed a following of over 1.5 million followers on Instagram alone.
This podcast was one of my all-time favorites. It's just two humans who are in love with running, jamming on their love for running. You won't want to miss this one. It's special.
Tap into the Zach Pogrob Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-PILLIAR PERFORMANCE (CODE "DOMINIC" FOR 15% OFF): https://thefeed.com/collections/pillar-performance
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Jan 16, 2024 • 34min
California State Champion Evan Noonan On Training To Become The Best To Do It
Today on the podcast is Evan Noonan!
Evan holds PRs of 54 (400), 1:55 (800), 4:09 (1600m), 8:49 (3200m), and a stunning 13:39 on the grass. The craziest part? Evan is only a junior in high school.
Evan runs for Dana Hills in California.
In today's episode, we go into Evan's training, his emphasis on doing the little things, how he's progressed through the years, his ambitions for the rest of his high school career, and much more!
I hope you all enjoy this look into one of the brightest up-and-coming stars.
Tap into the Evan Noonan Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-PILLIAR PERFORMANCE (CODE "DOMINIC" FOR 15% OFF): https://thefeed.com/collections/pillar-performance
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