
Get Creative with Pace Morby
Discover the insider secrets of real estate investing and unlock your path to financial freedom with the Get Creative Podcast with Pace Morby. Join Pace and industry experts as they share invaluable tips, creative finance strategies, and success stories to help you thrive in the competitive world of real estate investing. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just starting out, our podcast provides actionable insights to accelerate your journey towards wealth and independence. Tune in now and start building your empire today!
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Jan 8, 2025 • 21min
Turning Leads into Profits: A Masterclass in Gator Lending
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, we dive into the world of Gator deals and explore how Ryan Trope has built a thriving business by leveraging the power of creative financing. Ryan shares his strategies for generating inbound leads, building credibility, and creating a scalable system that allows him to fund multiple deals with minimal effort. This episode is packed with valuable insights and actionable tips for anyone looking to get started in the world of Gator deals.
Highlights:
"80% of my revenue, for sure, is Gator."
"I didn't have any credibility. I hadn't done it. And I think you don't necessarily have to have as much credibility in lending as maybe some stuff."
"I do systems. I was an engineer before this, so I built those systems out pretty quickly."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Ryan Trope and a recent Gator deal
01:03 - Ryan's journey into Gator deals and the denial phase
02:43 - Strategies for building credibility and volume
04:28 - The advantages of Gator and sub-two strategies
07:12 - The importance of networking and building relationships
10:00 - The power of calendar calls and connecting with others
12:18 - Solving problems for clients, not just pushing Gator lending
14:00 - Potential for making a full-time income through Gator lending
16:09 - The role of leads and money in Ryan's business
18:25 - The importance of systems and automation in Gator lending
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Jan 7, 2025 • 26min
Partnering for Profit: Benjamin Huang's Laundromat Acquisition
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Your host, Ingryd Hernandez, is joined by Benjamin Huang, who shares his experience acquiring a laundromat business in Boston. Through his story, we'll explore the power of building relationships, understanding the seller's needs, and leveraging a thriving community to achieve success in creative business buying.
Highlights:
"The moment that we walk out of there, we're just full of gratitude and have a lot of things done, like hanging out with owner owners is the best thing that you can have for the entire world."
"The best way to approach this is actually coming from a client perspective. To engage in that conversation, they will be like, Oh, you're my client. How can I help you?"
"The surprising thing is, just because of the relationship that I have and also the value I provided to the seller, the seller actually ripped off the seller finance note at closing."
"I actually have been opening some of my time to help people look at each business. And I did realize that a lot of people were interested in the business, but didn't have a full understanding on what they're going to do with the business."
Timestamps:
01:22 - Meeting in Owners Club
01:51 - Retreat Experience in Boston
03:36 - Finding the Laundromat Deal
04:17 - Chance Connection with the Seller
07:09 - Building Trust with the Seller
11:22 - Addressing the Seller's Concerns
14:54 - Financial Details and Valuation
17:50 - Partnering with Capital Partners
22:34 - Introducing the Capital Partners
24:23 - Offering Support and Collaboration
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Jan 6, 2025 • 29min
From Corporate Burnout to Real Estate Success: Steven Haring's Story
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, host Justin Tuminowski sits down with guest Steven Haring, a leader in the Northeast real estate community and a member of the Subto community. They dive into Steven's journey from corporate burnout to real estate success, highlighting the power of community and creative finance strategies in the Poconos region.
Highlights:
"I remember just being on Instagram one day, and I remember seeing, like, a video on wholesaling, and I'm like, This doesn't even sound real. Like, it sounds like a scam."
"I ended up talking to one of my coaches, and one of my coaches is like, well, just check the rent, the rental income of the property, and see if you could pitch it as a buy and hold exit for the end buyer."
"It's the who, not the how. Yeah, one of the, one of my favorite books, is rocket fuel."
"If you do have any deals in the Pocono Mountains area, you can reach me directly at manifest investors.com and submit your deal, and I will love to review the deal and potentially squat up with you."
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:27 Steven Haring's Background and Role in the Community
06:50 Steven's Journey into Real Estate
12:54 Forming a Partnership and the Stonehenge Deal
16:43 The Second Property and Overcoming Challenges
20:17 Closing the Deal and Financial Projections
24:18 The Importance of Community and Delayed Gratification
25:41 Steven's Current Endeavors and Contact Information
27:49 Reaching Out to Steven for Deals and Opportunities
29:04 Conclusion
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Jan 5, 2025 • 41min
Buying Back Time: Dan Martell's Framework for Scaling Smarter
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, we dive into Dan Martell's framework for taking back your time and scaling smarter in 2025. Dan shares his insights on the common challenges entrepreneurs face in growing their businesses, the importance of hiring the right people, and strategies for developing the mindset and habits needed to thrive as a leader. Whether you're looking to streamline your operations, build a high-performing team, or unlock your full potential, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you scale your business smarter.
Highlights:
"Poor people trade time to save money. Rich people trade money to save time."
"Entrepreneurs will never grow into pain."
"If you buy back your time, make sure it stays sold."
"People don't buy your presence. They buy your standards."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction: Dan Martell's Background and Core Concept
03:30 - The Hardest Part of Growing a Business
07:36 - The Three S's: Stalling, Sabotage, and Selling
13:21 - The Buyback Principle and the Buyback Loop
18:39 - The Importance of Investing in Yourself
22:24 - The Replacement Ladder: Hiring the Right People
28:02 - The Final Levels: Flow and Empire
34:02 - The Importance of Having an Assistant
38:07 - Closing Remarks and Squad Up Summit
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Jan 4, 2025 • 45min
Micro Family Masterclass: Lessons from a Successful Conversion
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, we dive into the world of micro family real estate investing with Justin Tuminowski, a leader in this innovative strategy. We explore how Justin and his team acquired a unique property in New England, leveraged seller financing, and collaborated with a diverse group of partners to transform the space into a thriving micro family community.
Highlights:
"We're lucky to have you."
"The power of who, not how, and that is my biggest hack”
"Going to add one more thing to that. On that layered cake, they also said, make it right. Do us right. We have more properties for you."
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction and Initial Setup
01:07 Discussion on Property Acquisition
02:03 Negotiation and Seller Involvement
04:20 Introduction of Financial Partners
07:34 Project Vision and Execution
10:01 Property Details and Construction Progress
13:42 Upper Floor and Premium Units
19:02 Community and City Relations
24:44 Final Thoughts and Future Plans
37:36 Tour of the Property
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Jan 3, 2025 • 25min
Sub-To Car Deals: Unlocking Creative Car Financing with the Top Method
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, host Ingryd Hernandez sits down with Mike Davis, a real estate investor and entrepreneur who has found success in the world of creative car financing. Mike shares his journey into the car space, the development of his "Top Method," and how he's helping buyers and sellers navigate the complexities of sub-to car deals.
Highlights:
"I'm never doing anything traditional again."
"We have a plethora of buyers that are always asking."
"We're the only ones that have actually done at least in honor."
"If you're looking for a vehicle, you can go and sell a finance.io and purchase your vehicle without having to use your credit."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to the Get Creative Podcast and Gator Tribe
01:31 - Ingryd Hernandez Introduces Mike Davis
03:18 - Mike Davis Shares His Journey into the Car Space
07:52 - Developing the Top Method
11:35 - Explaining the Top Method
14:40 - A Successful Top Method Deal
17:23 - Vetting Buyers and Ensuring Relationships
20:46 - Servicing Sub-Two Car Transactions
22:09 - Introducing Seller Finance.io
23:44 - Conclusion and Contact Information
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Jan 2, 2025 • 31min
Sober Living and Wholesale Deals: A Subto Success Story
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, host Jordan Whittenburg is joined by two Subto students, Jacob Tapia and Brendan Kelly, who recently collaborated on a successful wholesale deal in New Mexico. They discuss their backgrounds, the details of the deal, the benefits of sober living as an investment strategy, and their efforts to educate new investors and real estate agents within the Subto community.
Highlights:
"This community has given me the confidence to be able to speak."
"Subtos changed my life, and it's one of the things that normal investors, I've come across investors here in Albuquerque, and it didn't seem like anything that, it seemed a little bit too involved, I think, beforehand and pace has done a good job of saying these are all of the aspects."
"I just helped that guy go from the very bottom, a place that I couldn't imagine being at, a place that I would freak out at being at, to a position where now he's actually a business owner, now he runs his own poker room."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to the Podcast and Community
01:46 - Brendan Kelly's Background and Initial Experience
03:28 - Jacob Tapia's Journey and Real Estate Involvement
05:24 - Details of the Wholesale Deal in New Mexico
07:51 - Sober Living Facility and Financial Projections
11:25 - Contract Protections and Seller Concerns
14:16 - Educating New Subto Students
19:44 - Brendan's Approach to Helping New Students
24:45 - Brendan's Future Goals and Partnerships
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Jan 1, 2025 • 15min
Conquering Shiny Object Syndrome for Long-Term Success
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, we dive into the power of persistence and the compound effect of consistent effort. Pace Morby shares inspiring stories and insights on how to avoid becoming a statistic, embrace imperfection, and unlock long-term success in any endeavor, whether it's podcasting, real estate, or personal growth. Get ready to be motivated and empowered to take on your goals with a renewed sense of determination.
Highlights:
"I don't want to be a statistic."
"You just don't quit. You just show up every day, imperfectly, disgusting little creatures show up every freaking day, every day."
"I will show up imperfectly, because I understand the compound effect of just showing up, just showing up imperfectly, screwing it up."
"The reason why I win is because I show up like a cockroach no matter what's going on."
Timestamps:
0:00 - Podcasting and Human Behavior
2:56 - The Power of Not Quitting
9:14 - Becoming a Cockroach
9:35 - Embracing Imperfection
13:14 - The Compound Effect of Consistency
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Dec 31, 2024 • 24min
Transitioning from Coaching to Community Building
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, we dive into the inspiring story of a real estate investor who transitioned from being a contractor to building a thriving community of real estate professionals. Through his personal experiences and insights, he shares the importance of fostering connections, providing hands-on support, and prioritizing community over traditional coaching methods. Prepare to be motivated and empowered as we explore the transformative power of community-driven business strategies.
Highlights:
"The only person that cannot be controlled is a real estate investor."
"If you build it, they will come."
"Stop trying to go viral. That's not the goal. You want the right fit client all the time, and you want them to know that you actually give a crap about them."
"Coaching space is going to change. If anybody in here that is a coach, you're going to if you haven't already felt it, you're going to fill it. ChatGPT is coming for your customers."
Timestamps:
0:00 - Journey to Becoming a Contractor
0:59 - Meeting Bethany and Realizing the Business Potential
3:23 - Transition to Real Estate Investing
5:24 - The Importance of Communities
11:52 - Building a Real Estate Community
19:10 - Impact of Community on Business Success
22:18 - The Future of Coaching and Community Building
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Dec 30, 2024 • 17min
Building Wealth Without Starting Your Own Fund
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Today, we’re answering the big question: should you start your own investment fund? We’ll unpack the hidden challenges, costs, and risks of launching a fund and explore why a fund of funds might be the smarter choice. Whether you’re new to investing or looking for a better way to grow your portfolio, this episode is full of practical tips and insights. Let’s get started!
Highlights:
“A fund of funds is the greatest hack of all time.”
“You learn on the job at no cost with a fund of funds.”
“The failure rate of people starting a fund is 99%. The success rate of a fund of funds? 99%.”
“You plant seeds for a four-year harvest.”
Timestamps:
00:00 - What It Really Costs to Start a Fund
03:25 - The Advantages of a Fund of Funds
05:11 - The Legal Essentials: PPM and Compliance
07:40 - The Role of Education in Multifamily Investing
09:30 - Meeting a Mentor Who Changed the Game
11:15 - Why Fund of Funds is Perfect for Beginners
13:37 - Building Relationships and Raising Capital
15:10 - A Long-Term Vision for Investment Success
16:45 - The Emotional and Financial Rewards
17:29 - Patience is Key
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