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ProductLed Podcast

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Oct 29, 2024 • 44min

Episode 4: The Product-Led Playbook: Decide What to Give Away vs. What to Monetize

In this limited series of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush shares the contents of his new book—The Product-Led Playbook. Over the next three months, we’re releasing one chapter at a time, providing you with practical, no-nonsense guidance on how to build a multi-million-dollar product-led business with a lean team. In today’s episode, Wes explores the critical decision-making process of what to give away versus what to monetize in a product-led business. He emphasizes that the most successful models are intentional and strategic. Using real-world examples like Tettra, Wes illustrates how a freemium model can unlock long-term user value and how offering limited free features can lead to higher retention and conversions.  He dives into the different types of free models—such as freemium, opt-in, and usage-based trials—and provides actionable tips on finding the best fit for your business. He introduces the DEEP framework (Desirable, Effective, Efficient, Polished) to help businesses design a powerful free model that delivers tangible value upfront without overwhelming users.  Key Highlights: 1:14: What makes an intentional free model2:12: Case study: Tettra’s switch to freemium3:17: Key benefits of the DEEP framework6:40: How to build user trust with value11:20:  Practical steps to define your beginner level22:05: The PCR test for finding solutions32:06: Understanding opt-in and opt-out models You can buy The Product-Led Playbook here.
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Oct 22, 2024 • 41min

Episode 3: The Product-Led Playbook: Understand Your Users Better Than Anyone Else

In this limited series of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush shares the contents of his new book—The Product-Led Playbook. Over the next three months, we’re releasing one chapter at a time, providing you with practical, no-nonsense guidance on how to build a multi-million-dollar product-led business with a lean team. In today’s episode, Wes dives into the user component and shares what it takes to know your users better than anyone else. He shares how identifying an "ideal user" and focusing on serving them can lead to a stronger product-market fit, higher engagement, and stronger user loyalty. Wes introduces the "User Endgame Roadmap Model" to help businesses identify, understand, and serve their ideal users more effectively. He also emphasizes the importance of differentiating between users and buyers, particularly in B2B scenarios, to create a product that users genuinely love. Key Highlights 1:08: Lessons from LucidLink: Focusing on a single user profile.3:41: The difference between users and buyers.5:15: Identifying your "ideal user."8:03: The importance of user-centricity in product development.10:34: Step-by-step guide to defining your ideal user.15:41: Introducing the "User Endgame Roadmap Model" and how to implement it to your business.19:24: Clarifying your "User Endgame Statement" and defining core outcomes for successful users. You can buy The Product-Led Playbook here.
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Oct 15, 2024 • 45min

Episode 2: The Product-Led Playbook: How to Craft a Winning, Hard-To-Copy Strategy

In this limited series of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush shares the contents of his new book—The Product-Led Playbook. Over the next three months, we’re releasing one chapter at a time, providing you with practical, no-nonsense guidance on how to build a multi-million-dollar product-led business with a lean team. In today’s episode, Wes dives into the strategy component and shares what it takes to become the obvious choice in your market. Just as Southwest Airlines dominated by making key strategic choices, you’ll discover how to simplify your approach and focus your energy on what truly matters. You’ll explore the Bullseye Strategy Framework that helps product-led businesses move from struggling in competitive, commoditized markets to becoming industry leaders—like Canva, HubSpot, and Atlassian. Key Highlights 1:18: Breakdown of Southwest Airlines' strategy, highlighting how strategic choices enabled their rapid growth. 3:15: The importance of saying "no" to non-aligned projects to maintain focus and avoid the "action trap." 6:24: Explanation of the "Commodity Zone," where early-stage businesses struggle with fierce competition and low profits. 9:34: How ProductLed client Paubox focused on mental health professionals to become the obvious choice in a specific niche. 13:30: The "moats" you can use as strategic defences that make a business hard to copy. 30:08 – Introduction to the importance of making strategic choices. 41:51: The importance of aligning your team with a one-page strategy document called the "One-Page Endgame Canvas." You can buy The Product-Led Playbook here.
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Oct 8, 2024 • 45min

Episode 1: Introduction to “The Product-Led Playbook”

Discover the transformative power of product-led growth for SaaS businesses. Explore how to transition to a self-serve model that aligns with modern buyer preferences. Uncover essential strategies for irresistible offers and frictionless onboarding. Delve into various profit growth levels and learn what it takes to become the top choice in your market. With practical insights from industry experts, start building a foundation for exponential growth and self-serve success.
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Oct 3, 2024 • 23min

Why Some Companies Soar with PLG (And Why Others Crash)

In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush and Laura Kluz discuss Wes’ new book, The Product-Led Playbook, set to launch on October 8, 2024. This playbook is the no-BS guide to actually implementing PLG, and explores why some product-led companies see millions in ARR, while others don’t. The book is structured around nine components, which guide companies from building a solid foundation to scaling for exponential growth. The first stage includes crafting a winning strategy, identifying the ideal user, and creating an intentional product model. The second stage involves establishing a frictionless onboarding process and developing effective pricing strategies. The final stage focuses on data analysis, growth processes, and team development. The playbook offers a step-by-step approach to operationalizing PLG and is full of templates and canvases designed for team collaboration. Intended primarily for B2B software founders and early-stage go-to-market teams, this playbook provides a structured method for effectively implementing PLG. Key Moments: 00:00 – What The Product-Led Playbook is and its release date. 02:03 – Exploration of why some companies succeed with PLG while others don't. 03:00 – The customer patterns Wes saw, which led to the creation of the ProductLed System.  06:32 – Explanation of the nine components of the ProductLed System. 15:11 – The three main outcomes you can expect when you implement the system into your business 20:21 – A juicy gift for podcast listeners.
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Sep 19, 2024 • 51min

How To Drive 10,000+ Signups In 2 Weeks w/ Co-Founder of Tango and Zach DeWitt From Wing VC

Ken Babcock, Co-Founder of Tango, and Zach DeWitt from Wing VC share their secrets to achieving 10,000 sign-ups in just two weeks. They discuss strategic insights for startups, emphasizing the value of rapid experimentation and customer feedback. The duo highlights the importance of a data-driven, customer-centric culture, and how to effectively structure pilot programs for early-stage products. They underline the significance of clear communication within teams and the need to understand customer personas to facilitate product alignment and growth.
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Sep 10, 2024 • 41min

How to Use Customer Intent to Build Product Onboarding That Scales

David Rostan is Head of Revenue (Sales & Marketing) at Stonly in New York. Stonly is a company that created a unique widget to build interactive guides to lead clients’ customers to activation, issue resolution, and success on their terms. He has previously worked with fascinating product-led companies such as Calendly as VP for sales and marketing and Dashly as Head of organic and product marketing. These companies are known for effectively scaling that improved their onboarding experiences. In this episode, David will talk about the topic at hand -- how to use customer intent to build product onboarding that scales. Show Notes [01:19] How David got fascinated in customer intent and product onboarding and scales [03:45] The importance of tailoring onboarding for different user intent for him [05:51] His view on the differences of customer intent at different stages [07:59] What customer intent is for him [10:59] On ‘asking’ as the first step to meaningfully understand customer intent  [14:39] On testing and seeing what resonates as the second step [17:27] On identifying the pattern, replicate successes, and observe as the last steps [23:13] What he does best to scale the business right now [26:23] His favorite companies using user intent [29:12] What intent signals he looks for to ensure success for clients [31:36] The results of the experiments he had on user intent to scale onboarding [35:27] On how to further use customer intent to scale and deliver superb onboarding experiences  [37:53] Ways on building the empathy muscle for him [40:26] Where to find out more about David About David Rostan David Rostan is a marketing bigshot with a track record of starting up and expanding mobile products and applications on the web in Fortune 100 and start-up environments. He has outstanding experience in leading all aspects of marketing strategy, such as but not limited to customer acquisition, product innovation, customer research, branding, and data analytics, to accomplish business objectives. He has accomplished so much as an entrepreneur. He has launched 3 SaaS applications and grew them via online and offline sales and marketing channels. He specializes in the following fields: digital marketing and strategy, customer acquisition and channel prioritization, customer development and market research, technology innovation and product management, team building or hiring, strategic planning (OKRs), and leadership. Profile David Rostan on LinkedInDavid Rostan’s Email AddressStonly
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Sep 10, 2024 • 47min

How to Straddle Product-Led and Sales-Led Motions to a $3.5 Billion Dollar Valuation with Krish Subramanian, CEO of Chargebee

Krish Subramanian, CEO, and Co-founder of the leading subscription and billing software called Chargebee, will be sitting in today’s show to answer that question. Chargebee is a global subscription management platform that automates revenue operations of over 4,500 high-growth subscription-based businesses from startups to enterprises across verticals, including SaaS, eCommerce, e-learning, IoT, Publications, and more. Krish and his extremely dynamic mind will be sharing first-hand experiences on how they evolve their go-to-marketing strategy over the years and learn how to straddle sales-led and product-led motions together to drive fast growth. He also talks about the trials and setbacks that they’ve encountered and how they move past those obstacles to generate wins. Shownotes [0:59] Krish talks about their journey of reflecting on their mistakes and wins at Chargebee [1:56] What got them into solving this problem of helping subscription companies understand their business much better? [7:11] The relevance of understanding your subset of customers  [8:42] How do they identify their best customers? [10:36] Getting that value metric and Northstar metric is the biggest revelation for them [15:33] On building more features for your most successful customers [{21:21 Why does he think the pricing is so important to be Product-Led as a business? [25:03] Your end user’s success will eventually become your success  [30:00] Advantages of having both self-service and pre-sales [31:15] How did Chargebee evolve the way they structure their teams? About Krish Subramanian: Krish Subramanian is the co-founder and CEO of Chargebee, a global leader in subscription billing and revenue management solution for scaling businesses. He is an engineer by profession and a problem solver at heart with over 20 years of experience in the software field. As an ex-consultant, Krish strongly believes that business value is defined by service and experience to the customers and the people. He is referred to as the “nice guy” within the company, the tech community, the media, and his mom.  Profile Chargebee Krish on LinkedIn Krish on Twitter
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Sep 3, 2024 • 48min

How To Go From 0 to 45K Users In Less Than 12 Months From the CEO of Softr.io

Mariam Hakobyan, the Co-Founder and CEO of Softr, is an engineer turned entrepreneur dedicated to simplifying software creation. She shares her journey of scaling Softr from zero to 45,000 users in less than a year. Mariam emphasizes the significance of community feedback in product development and how user empowerment fuels growth. She discusses balancing simplicity with advanced features to cater to varying user needs. With a focus on customer value and intuitive design, Mariam reveals her vision for creating a thriving ecosystem for software enthusiasts.
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Aug 27, 2024 • 23min

How monday.com's Customer Success and Product Teams Work Closely Together

Tom Ronen, the head of customer success at monday.com, shares insights on the synergy between product and customer success teams. He emphasizes the need for shared KPIs to focus on user engagement and customer satisfaction. Tom discusses fostering a culture of transparency, where communication flows freely and customer feedback directly influences product development. He offers advice for leaders in product-led organizations to prioritize collaboration and gives tips for customer success teams to ensure their voices are heard, helping drive feature improvements.

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