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Night Owls

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Feb 9, 2025 • 1h 9min

Episode 56 (with Al From)

Al From, founder of the Democratic Leadership Council and a key strategist in the Democratic Party, shares insights on revitalizing the party's identity. He discusses historical challenges faced in establishing the DLC and the importance of innovative policy-making, particularly around educational reform and economic opportunity. Al emphasizes the urgency of reconnecting with working-class voters and adopting a centrist approach to engage younger demographics. He also explores creative solutions for student loan relief tied to national service.
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Jan 25, 2025 • 58min

Episode 55

Inauguration Week in Review! Joe and John on the ascendant Trump, the triumph of the Tech Bros, Dems in disarray, the Lars Anderson Bridge and the whereabouts of Philip K. Howard. 
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Jan 17, 2025 • 1h 5min

Episode 54 (with Susan Mulcahy)

Nobody knows the New York Post like Susan Mulcahy. She wrote the book. She talked about it with us. 
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Jan 9, 2025 • 1h 1min

Episode 53 (with David Barboza Part 4)

Episode Four: A dream assignment: David moves to Shanghai and begins covering China. He goes from "Sock City" to Apple, to the extraordinary changes in China's economy, politics and culture. The final episode covers everything from Wuhan to Taiwan, fentanyl to semiconductors, quantum computing to cyberhacking, to Xi's political standing and how much (and how many of) China's most successful people dislike and distrust Xi. 
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Jan 9, 2025 • 17min

Episode 52 (with David Barboza Part 3)

Episode Three: The not-a-partnership partnership of one of the world's greatest entrepreneurs and one of the world's richest men is a case study in modern China. David describes the "partnership" that became the subject of an extraordinary report co-produced by The New York Times and David's news magazine, The Wire China.
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Jan 8, 2025 • 34min

Episode 51 (with David Barboza Part 2)

Episode Two: We begin our conversation with David about China and whether the "Thucydides Trap" can be avoided.
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Jan 8, 2025 • 32min

Episode 50 (with David Barboza Part 1)

Episode One: David Barboza, former Shanghai Bureau Chief for The New York Times, is building a new kind of media company. Call it Bloomberg for China. 
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Dec 28, 2024 • 1h 8min

Episode 49 (with Deb Roy)

In the final episode of our Cortico trilogy, we talked with the company's founder and CEO, Deb Roy, about the future of "building civic muscle" and his roadmap for a national Cortico network. 
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Dec 21, 2024 • 1h 7min

Episode 48 (with Deb Roy and Alex Kelly Berman)

Part two of our conversations with the senior management of Cortico, the platform for "deeper conversations". Featuring Deb Roy and Alex Kelly Berman.
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Dec 11, 2024 • 39min

Episode 47 (With Deb Roy and Kathy Cramer)

Deb Roy, a media arts and sciences professor at MIT and co-founder of Cortico, joins Kathy Cramer, a political science professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, to discuss innovative AI systems promoting dialogue. They delve into how technology can elevate underrepresented voices, the effectiveness of smaller group discussions over traditional meetings, and the emotional disconnect felt by rural voters in politics. The conversation emphasizes understanding personal narratives to bridge political divides and create healthier community interactions.

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