

Night Owls Episode 69
Sep 26, 2025
In a whirlwind discussion, the hosts delve into the perilous intersections of genomics and AI, exploring their potential to both cure diseases and spawn new risks. They critique the reckless leadership styles evident in today's politics, linking them to serious societal issues like autism misinformation and free speech. The conversation spans international tariffs, Argentina's economic fiasco, and the tension surrounding high-profile political figures like Kamala Harris. With insights on private equity risks and China's property crisis, this is a thought-provoking journey through current affairs.
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Reckless Medical Misinformation Harms Trust
- Joe Klein and John Ellis warn that political figures spreading medical misinformation harm families and public trust.
- Recklessness by leaders on sensitive science topics deepens societal risk and undermines expertise.
Genomics And AI Create Incredible Promise And Peril
- John Ellis argues genomics plus AI could eliminate disease but also enable irreversible germline edits and rogue technologies.
- He warns leadership's inattention to these twin forces is reckless given their existential stakes.
Convene Leaders To Govern New Tech
- Do assemble cross-sector leadership now to plan rules and safeguards for AI and genomics.
- Waiting and assuming things will "work out okay" invites irreversible harms.