CLOSER
Nicole & Ryan Thomas Neace
By their very definition, psychotherapists are opaque. Their work is done in relative isolation, its contents are confidential, and their personal lives tend to be relatively unknown except to a select few, and even they may still experience a discreet distance.Are they really who they say they are?What do they talk about behind closed doors?Is therapy a way of life for them or a role they play?Are the things they do and say in therapy good for the geese as well as the gander?Career psychotherapists Nicole and Ryan Thomas Neace reveal the contents of their own dialogue and relationship as an exercise in radical authenticity, presenting a foil to the shroud that often surrounds people who do relationships for a living. CLOSER brings listeners just that – close enough to catch a poignant and unapologetically intimate glance into not just what they do, but who they are.
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Jul 29, 2025 • 37min
Episode 14: Welcome back, Kotter
The hosts reflect on their hiatus, sharing personal stories that reignited their passion for connecting with listeners. They dive into the evolving nature of relationships, emphasizing authenticity over mere knowledge. The importance of meaningful connections, especially through plant medicine, is highlighted with unique guest insights. The dynamics of friendships in heterosexual marriages spark intriguing discussions, while the excitement for upcoming guests hints at fresh spiritual perspectives. They also touch on the necessity of honoring creative rhythms in podcasting.
Feb 5, 2025 • 42min
Episode 13: We Did Not Have a Fight Between Episodes 12 & 13 (aka, Process Talk)
The hosts dive into 'process talk,' emphasizing its importance in therapeutic relationships. They tackle the complexities of communication, highlighting vulnerability and authenticity in their interactions. Adult friendships are explored, focusing on how past experiences shape current dynamics. The impact of tension in relationships is discussed, noting that conflict can lead to deeper understanding. Finally, they share personal journeys of self-discovery and the integration of their various selves, showcasing the importance of embracing vulnerability for growth.
Jan 29, 2025 • 1h 11min
Episode 12: Making Friends in Adulthood
Ryan and Nicole dive into the intricate world of adult friendships, sharing personal anecdotes and reflections on connection. They confront the challenges of navigating loneliness and vulnerability while seeking meaningful relationships. The duo explores how life changes and past experiences shape their social dynamics. Deep discussions reveal feelings of sadness and longing, emphasizing the importance of compassion and intentionality in building connections. It's a heartfelt journey through the complexities of friendship and emotional growth in adulthood.
Jan 12, 2025 • 28min
Episode 11: Letter to the Lady of the House
The podcast dives into the emotional depths of a heartfelt letter penned by a husband on the eve of a family visit, encapsulating the complexities of long-term love and communication. It highlights the contrast between real relationship struggles and the idealized perceptions often seen in media. Listeners are taken through layers of reflection, touching on memories, unresolvable issues, and moments of joy amidst conflicts. This touching narrative is guaranteed to evoke laughter and tears, making it a profound exploration of love and longing.
Jan 7, 2025 • 50min
Episode 10: When 1 + 1 = Purple
Happy New Year! The hosts delve into the unpredictability of life and the futility of planning. They explore how unexpected events can lead to personal growth and transformation. Striking a balance between acknowledging negative emotions and maintaining positivity is key. Emphasizing vulnerability and self-care, they discuss the importance of embracing the present moment. Through personal anecdotes, they highlight the significance of emotional support and adapting to life's inevitable disruptions.
Dec 20, 2024 • 57min
Episode 9: Origins Part 2
Ryan and Nicole share the evolution of their relationship from first meeting to their heartfelt engagement. They explore the concept of implicit 'contracts' that partners form, emphasizing the need for discovery and renegotiation over time. Personal anecdotes illustrate the importance of vulnerability and honest communication in building intimacy. They reflect on their journey through early marriage challenges and the significant impact of personal histories on their connection. Finally, they discuss how storytelling shapes understanding and growth within relationships.
Dec 11, 2024 • 49min
Episode 8: Origins Part 1
Dive into a heartfelt journey as Ryan and Nicole recount their humorous and touching origin story, starting back in 2007 on eHarmony. They explore the ups and downs of early online dating, reflecting on skepticism and the quirks of creating profiles. Their candid conversation leads to deeper themes of emotional growth, navigating relationship dynamics, and the significance of communication during tough times. Memorable mishaps, like a stolen iPod, set the stage for new beginnings and a strengthening connection amidst life’s chaos.
Dec 4, 2024 • 37min
Episode 7: Calm, Fascinating, Balance, Alignment
Join a heartfelt family reflection after Thanksgiving as parents and their teens discuss gratitude and personal growth. They share touching stories that highlight the importance of family bonds and navigating emotions. The tale of balancing attention between kids and pets reveals supportive connections. As they adjust to their new life in San Diego, they emphasize the calming influences of community and open communication, ultimately celebrating their unique family dynamics and the joy of shared experiences.
Nov 27, 2024 • 45min
Episode 6: Bad Blood
This engaging discussion explores the paradox of conflict as a tool for intimacy in relationships. The hosts reflect on how healthy disagreements can deepen connections, drawing on personal experiences. They highlight the role of vulnerability and effective communication in navigating tough conversations. The episode also connects relational dynamics to superhero narratives, revealing insights into emotional stress and growth. With music from Bear's Den, the conversation underscores the necessity of fighting productively to foster love and healing.
Nov 21, 2024 • 47min
Episode 4: OMG That's Not It
As the U.S. gears up for elections, the demand for therapy spikes, but conventional wisdom can mislead potential clients. The hosts dissect the real keys to therapeutic success, emphasizing that a strong bond with a therapist often outweighs qualifications. They discuss navigating therapist selection during stressful times, the nuances of specialization, and the impact of personality on connection. With insights from mental health experts, they urge listeners to prioritize personal fit over rigid expectations in their therapeutic journeys.
