CLOSER Episode 13: We Did Not Have a Fight Between Episodes 12 & 13 (aka, Process Talk)
Feb 5, 2025
The hosts dive into 'process talk,' emphasizing its importance in therapeutic relationships. They tackle the complexities of communication, highlighting vulnerability and authenticity in their interactions. Adult friendships are explored, focusing on how past experiences shape current dynamics. The impact of tension in relationships is discussed, noting that conflict can lead to deeper understanding. Finally, they share personal journeys of self-discovery and the integration of their various selves, showcasing the importance of embracing vulnerability for growth.
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Content vs. Process in Therapy
- In therapy, content is the subject matter discussed, while process is what happens between the therapist and client.
- Process talk reveals hidden obstacles preventing clients from solving problems, as these dynamics play out in the therapeutic relationship.
Revisiting Process Talk
- Ryan and Nicole revisited process talk after a tense discussion in earlier episodes, similar to their approach in episode 3.
- This discussion, while not a 'fight,' highlighted the vulnerability and discomfort they experienced while recording.
Balancing Authenticity and Privacy
- The Closer podcast aims for authenticity while avoiding excessive self-exposure.
- Balancing these two is challenging, as seen in the unplanned vulnerability of the previous episode.