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In this radiant and deeply personal episode, we sit down with chef, author, entrepreneur, and wellness advocate Jenné Claiborne to explore the journey behind her plant-based empire and the inner work that fuels it. From childhood memories in her nana’s kitchen to launching a blog “just for fun” that transformed her life, Jenné shares how curiosity, creativity, and purpose led her back to vegan food. We talk about the moment she realized she wanted more out of life and the questions she asked herself to get there. She opens up about: Raising her vibration, listening to her downloads and living in abundance; what that really means, and how it shows up daily Her hustle to start her private cheffing business along with her blog and YouTube channel and what kept her sticking to it to become the number 1 vegan chef in NYC How she manages her ambition with the desire to work less & smarter today Her relationship to spirituality and how veganism forces you to go against the grain Building a business as a woman of color, navigating criticism, and staying grounded Motherhood, single parenting, and raising a vegan daughter with intention and joy How it’s become easier for her to enjoy the journey versus thinking about the end goal Follow Jenné: YouTube:    / @sweetpotatosoul   Instagram:   / sweetpotatosoul   Blog: https://sweetpotatosoul.com/ Books’s Jenné likes: Kathy Freston’s Veganist Michael Singer’s Untethered Soul Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk (ameliarisk.com) - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15

In this episode, we sit down with Lauryn Bodden: athlete, chef, Netflix cooking show champion, and founder of Snoods, the noodle snack brand redefining comfort food. Lauryn’s path is anything but linear: from playing competitive soccer and studying sport management to working across every corner of the food world including private cheffing, editorial, restaurants, and reality TV.We talk about:Her early love of sports and what teamwork taught her about leadershipHer obsession with food: where it started, and how it’s evolvedThe highs and lows of restaurant life, and what she still carries from that chapterThe wild story behind Snack vs. Chef and how she went from judge applicant to contestant, and ultimately, winnerThe birth of Snoods: the aha moment, the product insight, and how she’s channeling her superpowers into building a brandWhat it’s really like to be a CPG founder: favorite parts, hardest parts, and whether it still feeds her passion for foodNavigating a tough business partner breakup and the lessons she’s taking forwardImposter syndrome, identity, and the quiet work of believing in yourselfThis one’s for anyone who’s ever pivoted hard, followed their gut, or built something from scratch. Lauryn brings warmth, honesty, and a whole lot of flavor. Also, get 30% off your next Snoods order with code SAYMORE.Links & Resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eatsnoods Website: https://www.eatsnoods.com/ Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vqhs2C7v1w https://www.laurynbodden.com/about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM6H1seJ8j0 Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk (ameliarisk.com) - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15

In this episode, we sit down with Verena von Pfetten, co-founder of Gossamer, the trailblazing magazine and lifestyle brand for people who also smoke weed. Verena shares the story behind launching a brand in a taboo space, and how moments of joy, stillness, and intuition shaped her creative process. We explore her journey from food media (co-founding The Braiser and writing for Condé Nast Traveler and HuffPost) to reimagining cannabis culture through design, storytelling, and spiritual practice. She opens up about her microdosing regimen, her views on plant medicine, and why she believes weed deserves a more nuanced narrative than the outdated “stoner” stereotype. Verena also reflects on: The moment Gossamer was born and why it felt like a risk worth taking Her spiritual protocols and how meditation fuels creativity The ups and downs of building a brand in a stigmatized category Her thoughts on copycats and what it means to manifest with intention A poetic reflection on Lopez Island, gnomes, and making things quietly and thoughtfully Follow Verena on: Instagram:   / gossamer   Website: https://gossamer.co/ Book recs: Orbital by Samantha Harvey If you are in NYC, check out Pioneer Works and their endless events: https://pioneerworks.org/https://www.sage-sound.com/blogs/the-...https://themalin.co/journal/gossamer/https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/20... Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk, and The Big Favorite!

This week, Isabelle and Eleanor sit down with Vanessa Barboni Hallik, founder of Another Tomorrow, for a candid conversation about leaving a high-powered finance career, navigating personal loss, and building a purpose-driven brand from the ground up. Vanessa shares how introspection, meditation, and a sabbatical led to the quiet birth of a company rooted in ethics and sustainability and why intention matters more than ever. Topics we cover: Quitting finance three times and why it was so hard to walk away Growing up in a “hippie, techy, academic, and artistic” household in the Midwest Her journey from ‘fear to faith’ through her journey as an entrepreneur Losing her mother to suicide and the long arc of healing and reflection The accidental birth of Another Tomorrow during a sabbatical Building a gold-standard brand rooted in ethics, transparency, and sustainability The power of intention and how Vanessa manifests her future Book recommendations: A Constellation of Vital Phenomena Find Another Tomorrow/Vanessa: Website - www.anothertomorrow.co IG - https://www.instagram.com/anothertomo... Thank you to our sponsors, ⁠Amelia Risk⁠ - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to ⁠The Big Favorite⁠ - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner

In this episode of The Say More Podcast, co-hosts Eleanor Turner and Isabelle Steichen sit down with Michael Robinov, co-founder and CEO of Farm to People, a radically local food company reshaping how New Yorkers connect with farmers, chefs, and their own kitchens. We explore: The joyful spark behind Farm to People’s inception—and why creative ideas often emerge from moments of ease What Waldorf education taught him about autonomy, imagination, and holistic thinking—and how it shaped his approach to business and life Growing up in NYC, dropping out of Tisch, and trusting intuition over credentials Why regenerative farming and local food systems aren’t just buzzwords—they’re central to Michael’s purpose What it’s really like to build a business with your father and your partner (spoiler: it’s messy, meaningful, and deeply rewarding) How customer feedback drives innovation—and why listening is Michael’s north star The role travel played in launching FTP, and why it still fuels his creativity Whether an IPO or a national expansion is on the horizon—and what’s next for Farm to People Michael’s story is a reminder that purpose-driven business can be scrappy and wildly impactful. Book/podcast recs: Acquired: Deep dives into iconic companies that broke the mold—like Costco, Nike, and Berkshire Hathaway. Michael Robinov loves how it showcases businesses that were aberrations of their time, yet built on enduring principles. Think Again by Adam Grant A guide to rethinking assumptions, embracing curiosity, and staying mentally flexible—especially relevant for leaders building adaptive, values-driven companies. No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings & Erin Meyer A behind-the-scenes look at Netflix’s radical culture of freedom and responsibility. A masterclass in rejecting convention and scaling through trust and innovation. No-Excuses Management by T.J. Rodgers A lesser-known but powerful book on building high-performance teams through clear targets, bonus structures, and metric-driven accountability. Rodgers’ approach blends hard business fundamentals with entrepreneurial grit. Connect with Michael on Instagram Follow FtP on Instagram and online Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner

In this episode of Say More, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Babba Rivera—founder of the award-winning clean hair care brand Ceremonia, former Uber exec, and a trailblazing Latina entrepreneur reshaping the beauty industry. Babba shares her remarkable journey from growing up in Sweden’s immigrant neighborhoods to launching a purpose-driven brand rooted in heritage, wellness, and authenticity. This conversation is a masterclass in manifesting bold moves, dismantling limiting beliefs, and building businesses that reflect your highest values. What we covered in this episode: Growing up in Sweden with Chilean immigrant parents How Babba navigated language barriers, cultural identity, and early ambition Her leap from Uber Sweden to NYC—and the mindset behind big life decisions The power of authenticity and how passion creates unexpected opportunities Why generosity and helping others are central to her leadership philosophy The insight that sparked Ceremonia: “Hair care” vs. styling products Balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship with 4 kids What success feels like now—and how it aligns with her values Links & Resources Ceremonia on IG and online – Babba’s clean hair care brand https://www.instagram.com/myceremonia/?hl=en Follow Babba on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/babba/?hl=en TV show rec: Common Side Effects The Tao of Founders by Guillaume Racine Thank you to our Sponsors: Amelia Risk - ⁠⁠https://ameliarisk.com/⁠⁠ The Big Favorite - ⁠⁠thebigfavorite.com⁠⁠ get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner

In this transformative episode, Lorna Davis—former CEO of Danone North America and trailblazer of the B Corp movement—invites us into a conversation about what it really means to lead, live, and grow through the lens of radical interdependence. From her upbringing in South Africa to her global career across seven countries and five continents, Lorna shares why she believes that heroism is outdated—and that meaningful change depends on our willingness to rely on one another. This isn’t just about leadership. It’s about building lives, organizations, and societies that thrive on trust, empathy, and purpose. TED Talk, A Guide to Collaborative Leadership: https://www.ted.com/speakers/lorna_davis Books: It's That Simple, Mavis Karn; Raising Hare, Chloe Dalton; Memorial Day, Geraldine Brooks; Consolations, David White; Eckhart Tolle’s work Please support the Rhino's at Care For Wild: https://careforwild.co.za/ Thank you to our Sponsors:Amelia Risk - ⁠https://ameliarisk.com/⁠ The Big Favorite - ⁠thebigfavorite.com⁠ get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠@the_elturner

In this engaging conversation, Jeni Britton, the founder of Jeni’s Splendid Ice Cream and Floura, shares her transformative journey from an art student to a creative entrepreneur. She discusses the importance of intuition in business decisions and the need to embrace failure as a learning tool. Jeni emphasizes the balance between motherhood and entrepreneurship, offering insights on how her unconventional childhood shaped her bold approach. Additionally, she explores the innovative world of fiber in food systems, making a case for its significance in wellness.

Join us for an enlightening conversation with Zoe Paknad, the visionary founder of Goldune, as we delve into the world of sustainable retail. Discover Zoe's inspiring journey in creating a company that makes sustainability approachable and accessible. She shares the triumphs and challenges of her mission to transform consumer habits and offers insights into the future of eco-friendly products, and reveals what she’s up to today with First Rodeo and more!Zoe’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoe-paknadZoe’s substack First Rodeo: https://1strodeo.substack.com/Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi !Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite!The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you. The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavoriteFollow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcastIsabelle’s IG: @theplantifulEl’s IG: @the_elturner

Eva Goicochea, the founder of Maude, shares her transformative journey from healthcare to pioneering a modern sexual wellness brand. She discusses the mission-driven ethos behind Maude and the challenges of launching a business in a saturated market. Eva emphasizes the importance of personal ethics and societal impact, particularly in promoting gender equity. The conversation also delves into challenging societal norms around motherhood, advocating for personal choice and fulfillment over conventional expectations.