Say More

Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen
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Aug 19, 2025 • 1h 5min

Lorna Davis on Finding Purpose Beyond "More, More, More"

In this transformative episode, Lorna Davis—former CEO of Danone North America and trailblazer of the B Corp movement—invites us into a conversation about what it really means to lead, live, and grow through the lens of radical interdependence. From her upbringing in South Africa to her global career across seven countries and five continents, Lorna shares why she believes that heroism is outdated—and that meaningful change depends on our willingness to rely on one another. This isn’t just about leadership. It’s about building lives, organizations, and societies that thrive on trust, empathy, and purpose. TED Talk, A Guide to Collaborative Leadership: https://www.ted.com/speakers/lorna_davis Books: It's That Simple, Mavis Karn; Raising Hare, Chloe Dalton; Memorial Day, Geraldine Brooks; Consolations, David White; Eckhart Tolle’s work Please support the Rhino's at Care For Wild: https://careforwild.co.za/ Thank you to our Sponsors:Amelia Risk - ⁠https://ameliarisk.com/⁠ The Big Favorite - ⁠thebigfavorite.com⁠ get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠@the_elturner
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Jul 31, 2025 • 1h 11min

Jeni Britton on Creativity, Ownership, and Fiber

In this engaging conversation, Jeni Britton, the founder of Jeni’s Splendid Ice Cream and Floura, shares her transformative journey from an art student to a creative entrepreneur. She discusses the importance of intuition in business decisions and the need to embrace failure as a learning tool. Jeni emphasizes the balance between motherhood and entrepreneurship, offering insights on how her unconventional childhood shaped her bold approach. Additionally, she explores the innovative world of fiber in food systems, making a case for its significance in wellness.
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Feb 20, 2025 • 1h 13min

The Power of Timing, Luck, & Purpose with Zoe Paknad

Join us for an enlightening conversation with Zoe Paknad, the visionary founder of Goldune, as we delve into the world of sustainable retail. Discover Zoe's inspiring journey in creating a company that makes sustainability approachable and accessible. She shares the triumphs and challenges of her mission to transform consumer habits and offers insights into the future of eco-friendly products, and reveals what she’s up to today with First Rodeo and more!Zoe’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoe-paknadZoe’s substack First Rodeo: https://1strodeo.substack.com/Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi !Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite!The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you. The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavoriteFollow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcastIsabelle’s IG: @theplantifulEl’s IG: @the_elturner
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Jan 30, 2025 • 1h 7min

Altruism in Action with Eva Goicochea of Maude

Eva Goicochea, the founder of Maude, shares her transformative journey from healthcare to pioneering a modern sexual wellness brand. She discusses the mission-driven ethos behind Maude and the challenges of launching a business in a saturated market. Eva emphasizes the importance of personal ethics and societal impact, particularly in promoting gender equity. The conversation also delves into challenging societal norms around motherhood, advocating for personal choice and fulfillment over conventional expectations.
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Jan 16, 2025 • 1h 10min

From Party in the USA to Dry January with David Fudge of Aplos

Today, we have the pleasure of hosting David Fudge, a visionary entrepreneur and co-founder of Aplós, the trailblazing non-alcoholic spirit brand that's redefining social drinking. With a background as one of the first hires at Bonobos, David brings a wealth of experience in brand building and innovation to the table. At Aplós, he's on a mission to create sophisticated, mood-boosting beverages that offer the same social experience without the alcohol. Join us as we dive into David's journey, the challenges of launching a disruptive brand, and the lessons he's learned along the way.Aplos Website: https://www.aplos.world/Aplos IG: https://www.instagram.com/aplos.world/David IG:  https://www.instagram.com/davidfudge/Famous Party in the USA music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ezfk7s1NyYThank you to our sponsor dash.fi !Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite!The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you. The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavoriteFollow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcastIsabelle’s IG: @theplantifulEl’s IG: @the_elturner
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Jan 2, 2025 • 1h 5min

What Excellence Feels Like with Erica and Ingrid of The New Savant

Join Erica Anderson and Ingrid Nilsen, co-founders of The New Savant, as they delve into their transformative journeys from tech and beauty to the fragrant world of artisanal scents. They discuss launching their brand during a pandemic, the significance of creativity and community, and the deep cultural connections to fragrances from their childhood. The duo also reflects on balancing romance with business, the power of advocacy in tech, and the importance of self-awareness in personal and professional growth.
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Dec 19, 2024 • 1h 4min

The Power of the Shower with Ryan Babenzien of Jolie Skin Co

Today we welcome Ryan Babenzien on the show. He’s a visionary entrepreneur who has revolutionized not one, but two industries. First, he took the footwear world by storm with Greats, the first digitally native sneaker brand, which he successfully sold to Steve Madden. Now, he’s making waves in the beauty and wellness sector with Jolie Skin, a brand that’s redefining how we think about water purity and its impact on our skin and hair. Ryan’s journey from managing clients at ICM Partners to founding and scaling two groundbreaking companies is nothing short of remarkable. In this episode, we’ll dive into his entrepreneurial journey, the challenges he’s faced, and who Ryan, the human, is behind all the successes.Jolie website: https://jolieskinco.com/Jolie IG account: https://www.instagram.com/jolieskinco/Ryan’s IG account: https://www.instagram.com/ryanbbabenzienThank you to our sponsor dash.fi!Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite!The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavoriteFollow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcastIsabelle’s IG: @theplantifulEl’s IG: @the_elturner
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Dec 12, 2024 • 56min

The Why Behind "Say More" with Isabelle and Eleanor

Welcome to the Say More podcast! In our first episode, we dive into our personal backgrounds: El’s journey from fashion to co-founding Argent and launching The Big Favorite in 2020, and Isabelle’s path from tech to food, culminating in the creation of Lupii in 2019. This episode is a candid exploration of what drives us, the challenges we’ve faced, and how we’ve overcome them. We also discuss the inspiration behind starting the Say More Podcast, focusing on the “why” behind entrepreneurial success. Join us for an exciting first season with inspiring guests who embrace vulnerability and honesty.The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavoriteFollow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcastIsabelle’s IG: @theplantifulEl’s IG: @the_elturnerThank you to our sponsor dash.fi !Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee
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Dec 5, 2024 • 1min

Introducing Say More

Say More is a podcast that delves into the 'why' behind successful entrepreneurs and creators. We believe true success stems from aligning personal passion, skills, and goals with your business, not just tactical execution. In interviews, we go beyond just building a business to explore the hearts and minds of founders, builders, and creators to prove our hypothesis and establish the throughlines of success and longevity.Follow us on Instagram @thesaymorepodcastFollow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast

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