

Grow Your B2B SaaS
Joran Hofman
We will discuss everything on growing your B2B SaaS, hosted by Joran Hofman, Founder of Reditus.
When growing your B2B SaaS you run into a lot of things; we will cover how to generate your first-paying clients, achieve product-market fit, create a go-to-market plan, and more in-depth information about any marketing channel. Or, when thinking about funding, we will cover bootstrapped stories to fund your SaaS with external money.
As Joran is a founder himself of a B2B SaaS, he will ask the questions for you.
B2B SaaS, SaaS, Grow My SaaS, SaaS Advice, SaaS founder, SaaS podcast.
When growing your B2B SaaS you run into a lot of things; we will cover how to generate your first-paying clients, achieve product-market fit, create a go-to-market plan, and more in-depth information about any marketing channel. Or, when thinking about funding, we will cover bootstrapped stories to fund your SaaS with external money.
As Joran is a founder himself of a B2B SaaS, he will ask the questions for you.
B2B SaaS, SaaS, Grow My SaaS, SaaS Advice, SaaS founder, SaaS podcast.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Oct 3, 2023 • 39min
S2E13 - How to secure an early-stage investment for your SaaS? with Lotte Geldermans
Securing early-stage investment for your SaaS (Software as a Service) startup is a pivotal step in turning your innovative ideas into a thriving business. To attract potential investors, it's crucial to first develop a compelling business plan that clearly articulates your product's unique value proposition and the problem it solves. Create a robust financial model that demonstrates a realistic and scalable revenue stream. Building a prototype or minimum viable product (MVP) can also instill confidence in investors by showcasing your team's ability to execute. Networking plays a crucial role; attend industry events, engage with potential investors on social media, and leverage your professional connections. Be prepared to tell a compelling story about your vision and how your SaaS addresses a market need. Finally, consider seeking guidance from mentors or advisors who have experience in your industry. With a solid plan, a strong network, and a compelling story, you'll be better positioned to secure the early-stage investment needed to propel your SaaS startup to success.
In this episode of The Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we tackle a critical aspect of securing early-stage investments. Our subject matter expert is Lotte Geldermans, the portfolio lead at PitchDrive, an early-stage VC utilizing a data-driven approach for rapid investments. Lotte brings five years of experience at PitchDrive, overseeing a growing portfolio of startups. Lotte shares insights gained from evaluating numerous startup ideas and the evolution of the startups they've invested in.
Key Timecodes
(0:28) Show and guest intro
(1:36 ) Why you should listen to Lotte Geldermans
(2:55) What is the difference between pre-seed and seed investments?
(3:51) What needs to be in place to actually be ready for an investment?
(4:46) Things that need to be in place to be considered for a seed investment
(5:40 Differences between angels and early-stage VCs
(8:32) The most common mistakes companies make while trying to secure their first funding.
(11:45) What kind of data has to be present and good to be investment-ready?
(15:27) What has to be really good to get a higher valuation for your company?
(19:00) The first signs of traction
(22:59) What kind of process should SaaS companies trying to secure a pre-seed or seed round adopt?
(29:04) Where, when, and how to exit?
(31:35) What happens between pre-seed and seed?
(33:35) How to grow to 10K monthly recurring revenue
(34:44) How to grow to $10M Annual recurring revenue
(36:29) What Lotte wishes she had known ten years ago

Sep 26, 2023 • 37min
S2E12 - How to bootstrap your SaaS to a 10M+ exit? With Andrew Gazdecki
Bootstrapping your SaaS company to a 10M+ exit is a formidable challenge that requires a strategic and disciplined approach. First and foremost, focus on achieving profitability early on, as this not only sustains your business but also makes it an attractive acquisition target. As you grow, prioritize hiring talented individuals who complement your skills and can take over key roles, allowing you to work on scaling the business rather than getting bogged down in day-to-day operations. Building a strong brand presence and a loyal customer base is crucial, and consider sharing your journey through content marketing or building in public to attract attention and potential acquirers. Ultimately, perseverance, a clear vision, and adaptability are key to bootstrapping your way to a successful 10M+ exit in the competitive SaaS landscape.
In episode four of season two we were privileged to host Thomas Smale as we discussed How to sell your B2B SaaS, In this episode however, show host Joran Hofman is joined by Andrew Gazdecki, the CEO and founder of acquire.com. When it comes to bootstrapping and exits there is arguably no better industry expert in the B2B SaaS than Andrew. Andrew has built a strong reputation on LinkedIn through his insightful content and deep understanding of the B2B SaaS landscape. During this episode, Andrew imparts valuable advice to founders who are bootstrapping their SaaS businesses and have aspirations of selling them in the future. If you are in this space then this is your episode!
Key Timecodes
(0:28) Show and guest intro
(1:23) Why you should listen to Andrew
(1:44) What is bootstrapping?
(2:35) The key processes or strategies of Bootstrap companies that are key to success
(5:02) Andrew's Success Story
(8:33) Common mistakes founders make while trying, to grow and sell their company
(10:24) The big exits success stories
(13:40) key factors for pricing and valuing your business
(17:03) The Must-Haves for SaaS founders to guarantee a good acquisition
(22:27) The unique challenges bootstrap companies will have and how can they navigate those.
(29:27) The future of valuations
(33:40) SaaS growth advice How to grow to 10k monthly recurring revenue and to 10M ARR

Sep 19, 2023 • 25min
S2E11 - How to reduce your CPL and scale profitable campaigns with Yann Skaalen
To reduce your CPL (Cost Per Lead) and scale profitable campaigns, it's crucial to adopt a strategic approach. Start by meticulously analyzing your audience data to target the most promising segments and refine your messaging accordingly. Implement A/B testing to optimize ad creatives, headlines, and landing pages, ensuring they resonate with your target audience. Employ advanced audience targeting options provided by advertising platforms, such as lookalike audiences and custom audience segments. Continuously monitor campaign performance and allocate budgets to the highest-performing channels and campaigns. Leverage automation tools for bid management and ad scheduling to maximize efficiency. Lastly, stay updated with industry trends and competitor strategies to adapt and innovate. By constantly fine-tuning your campaigns and embracing data-driven decision-making, you can lower your CPL while scaling profitable marketing efforts.
In this episode, Joran hosts Yann Skaalen, founder, and CEO of Digtective , a tracking tool. Yann has extensive experience in advertising and tracking since 1999.
Key Timecodes
(0:28) Show and guest intro
(1:30) Why you should listen to Yann
(1:55) What is a successful ad campaign?
(2:48) How GDPR has affected the digital advertising landscape
(5:04) Common mistakes companies make while setting up their ad campaigns?
(8:31) The process of decreasing the cost per lead
(11:06) Challenges and obstacles experienced while decreasing the CPLs
(13:20) When to start running paid ads as a company?
(15:00) The future of ad tracking
(17:40) SaaS growth advice How to grow to 10k monthly recurring revenue

Sep 12, 2023 • 27min
S2E10 - How to build and grow a B2B SaaS Sales team? With James Ski
To build and grow a high-performing B2B SaaS sales team, it's essential to follow a strategic approach. Start by defining your ideal customer profile and understanding their pain points thoroughly. Then, hire sales professionals with a deep understanding of your industry and product. Provide comprehensive training and ongoing coaching to ensure they are well-equipped to communicate the unique value proposition of your SaaS solution. Implement robust CRM and sales enablement tools to streamline processes and track performance metrics. Foster a culture of collaboration and continuous improvement within your team, encouraging knowledge sharing and experimentation with various sales strategies. Additionally, invest in content marketing, thought leadership and social selling to generate leads and establish credibility in your industry. Regularly analyze data and adjust your strategies based on performance, ensuring a scalable and sustainable growth trajectory for your B2B SaaS sales team.
In this episode of the "Grow Your B2B SaaS" podcast, host Joran welcomes James Ski, founder and CEO of Sales Confidence, SaaS Growth Event founder, public speaker, and author. The discussion centers on the evolving landscape of sales strategies and the crucial role of building a sales team in today's SaaS environment.
Key Timestamps
(0:28) Show and guest intro
(1:30) Why you should listen to James Sky
(2:34) The different roles within sales
(3:30) When to hire a salesperson
(5:12) What needs to be in place before hiring a salesperson?
(6:02) Common mistakes companies make when hiring a salesperson
(7:06) Common mistakes companies make while growing a team
(8:16) The effective strategies and processes implemented to make your sales team successful
(9:06) How to do an effective product pitch to your prospects
(11:51) How to keep your sales team motivated
(13:53) When does a salesperson come into play?
(14:42) James’ thoughts on product-led growth strategy
(16:00) How to qualify leads in the sales process
( 16:42) The importance of the mental well-being of a sales team
(18:31) How Sales team members can take rests and time off without worrying about their next paycheck
(19:43) How founders can benefit from James’ Sales team network
(21:25) SaaS building growth advice (growing to 10K MRR & 1M ARR)
(24:54) What James wishes he had known 10 years ago

Sep 5, 2023 • 29min
S2E9 - How to do product marketing for your B2B SaaS? With Alex Levin
Product marketing for your B2B SaaS requires a strategic approach to effectively reach and engage your target audience. Start by thoroughly understanding your customer personas and their pain points. Craft a compelling value proposition that highlights how your software solves their specific problems. Develop a clear and concise messaging strategy that communicates the benefits and unique features of your SaaS solution. Utilize content marketing to create informative blog posts, whitepapers, and case studies that showcase your expertise and provide value to your audience. Leverage social media, email marketing, and webinars to reach potential customers and nurture existing leads. Establish trust through customer testimonials and case studies, and invest in building a strong online presence through SEO and paid advertising. Lastly, continually gather feedback, analyze data, and iterate on your product marketing strategy to stay ahead in the competitive B2B SaaS landscape.
In this episode, we dive into the world of product marketing, specifically tailored for B2B SaaS companies. Our guest for today is Alex Levin, co-founder and CEO of Regal, an AI-enabled, outbound, and SMS sales SaaS solution. Alex brings a unique perspective to product marketing, having transitioned from a background in B2C marketing to B2B SaaS.
Key Timecodes
(0:29) Show and guest intro
(1:22) Why you should listen to Alex
(3:15) The difference between normal marketing and product marketing
(4:33) The key fundamentals to consider before starting product marketing
(7:38) The elements of product market strategy
(10:07) Where does product marketing start and where does it end?
(12:22) Common mistakes SaaS companies make while trying to implement product marketing
(17:07) What Alex would do differently if he was just about to start product marketing.
(19:48) The KPIs for measuring product market success
(21:00) The Key qualifications to look for when hiring a product market person
(23:58) How Alex is currently doing Product market.
(24:46) Advice per stage (How to grow to 10k MRR and 1M ARR)

Aug 29, 2023 • 40min
S2E8 - How to improve your user onboarding? with Ildefonso Prieto
How do you improve your user onboarding? Effective user onboarding is crucial for driving user engagement and retention on your platform. A seamless onboarding process welcomes new users, guiding them through your product's key features and benefits, while minimizing any potential hurdles. By implementing a user-centric onboarding strategy, you can ensure that users quickly grasp how to navigate and utilize your platform, leading to higher satisfaction levels and increased usage over time. Tailoring the onboarding experience to address user needs and pain points not only accelerates their journey to becoming proficient users but also cultivates a positive and lasting impression of your brand. In this episode, show host Joran Hofman speaks to subject matter expert Ildefonso Prieto to discuss how to improve your user onboarding. Ildefonso is a product growth consultant who helps SaaS companies grow their free-to-paid conversions.
Key Timecodes
(0:30) Show and guest intro
(1:12) Why you should listen to Ildefonso Prieto
(5:35) What is User onboarding?
(8:17) Why do most users drop off?
(12:50) What you need to have in place before Improving User Onboarding.
(16:00) Steps to take to improve your user onboarding
(18:18) Know how to bake your “cake” properly
(25:58) The right time to reach out to a growth consultant
(32:41) Growth level SaaS Advice (How to grow to 10K MRR and 10M ARR)

Aug 22, 2023 • 37min
S2E7 - How to build a community as a B2B SaaS? with Mike Rizzo
How to build a community as a B2B SaaS? In season one, episode eight of our podcast, we were privileged to host Alex Theuma, where we discussed how to create a community within a B2B SaaS. In this episode, we take the subject matter a notch higher as we host Mike Rizzo, the Founder & CEO of Marketingops and community-led Growth Advisor at Rev Brains.
We discuss the importance of having a thriving community as a B2B SaaS. Mike shares valuable, actionable tactics on How to build a community as a B2B SaaS.
Establishing a thriving community within the realm of B2B SaaS demands more than just a product or service – it necessitates a strategic and holistic approach. Crafting a robust B2B SaaS community involves creating a space where industry professionals, clients, and stakeholders converge to exchange insights, best practices, and solutions. By fostering meaningful interactions through tailored content, engaging discussions, and collaborative initiatives, companies can forge lasting relationships, enhance customer loyalty, gather valuable feedback, and ultimately shape a community-driven ecosystem that adds substantial value to both their offerings and the industry at large.:
Key Takeaways:
Community-led means intentional feedback from constituents.
A hypothesis-driven approach to building a community.
Engagement with community members as a form of user research.
Importance of clear community guidelines and identity.
Partners and experts can contribute to community success.
Key Timecodes
(0:29) Show and topic intro
(1:30) Why you should listen to Mike Rizzo
(2:17) What is community-led?
(5:10) The importance of knowing your ICP (Ideal Customer Profile)
(6:31) What needs to be in place before starting community-led growth?
(9:00) Common mistakes companies make while starting community-led growth?
(13:09) The ideal community-building process
(18:43) Challenges and obstacles experienced while building a community
(22:37) The online vs Offline communities
(27:54) How to grow to 10K MRR.
(29:45) How to grow to 10M ARR

Aug 15, 2023 • 30min
S2E6 - How to do revenue attribution the right way? With Steffen Hedebrandt
When it comes to achieving accurate and insightful revenue attribution, mastering the right approach is crucial for the success of your business. In this episode, Joran Hofman hosts Steffen Hedebrandt the Co-founder of Dreamdata. In this episode, our guest expert helps us to understand How to do revenue attribution the right way.
Revenue attribution isn't just about tracking where your customers come from; it's a strategic process that involves understanding the entire customer journey, identifying successful tactics, and optimizing your marketing efforts. To do revenue attribution the right way, start by implementing a comprehensive data collection strategy that encompasses various touchpoints, from CRM and marketing automation to website tracking and ad platforms. By creating an account-based timeline and connecting it to revenue outcomes, you gain valuable insights into what's truly driving your sales. Investing in reliable tools like Dreamdata can streamline this process, ensuring you're equipped with the accurate data you need to make informed decisions and replicate winning strategies. With precise revenue attribution, you'll be empowered to allocate resources effectively, enhance your marketing efforts, and ultimately drive sustainable growth for your B2B SaaS business.
Key Timecodes
(1:23) Why you should listen to Steffen Hedebrandt
(1:58) What is revenue attribution in relation to B2B SaaS
(3:22) The bare minimal requirements for starting revenue attribution
(4:47) When to start thinking about revenue attribution
(7:15) The important metrics to check out for attributions
(10:14) Mistakes companies make while doing revenue attribution
(13:50) Effective processes and strategies for revenue attribution
(16:52) The benchmarks for what works and what doesn't
(18:34) Which review sites works best for B2B Saas?
(22:27)The importance of aligning sales and marketing
(24:30) How to grow to 10k MRR
(25:40) How to grow to 10M ARR
(26:35) What Steffen Wishes he knew 10 years ago

Aug 8, 2023 • 33min
S1E5 - How to leverage SEO as a B2B SaaS with Maeva Cifuentes
The most important and sustainable avenue for long-term growth is SEO. The big question is how to leverage SEO as a B2B SaaS? Long-term growth frequently depends on this investment. Maeva Cifuentes, CEO of Flying Cat Marketing, a startup that helps B2B SaaS companies with their SEO and content strategy, is our special guest today. Maeva has extensive knowledge to impart based on her three years of expertise and track record of working with over 40 B2B SaaS firms. Immediately, let's begin! Thank you for coming, Maeva.
Defining SEO: Maeva defines SEO as transforming your website into a self-sustaining ecosystem that attracts users organically throughout their buyer's journey, from awareness to becoming a customer. Without SEO, your website relies solely on brand searches or paid ads for traffic.
Preparation for SEO: Before diving into SEO, Maeva emphasizes the importance of having a solid product-market fit and ensuring that your website can convert visitors effectively. This way, your investment in SEO will yield better results.
Understanding the Ideal Customer Profile (ICP): Maeva stresses the significance of having a well-defined ICP before creating SEO-focused content. Understanding your audience and addressing their specific needs is crucial for successful SEO.
Common Mistakes: One common mistake businesses make is focusing on the wrong metrics for SEO success. Maeva advises aligning SEO KPIs with business goals, such as demo requests, free trial sign-ups, or revenue, rather than just rankings and traffic.
SEO Strategy: Maeva introduces four website archetypes - Builder, Optimizer, Scalar, and Wild One - each with specific SEO objectives. For beginners (Builders), the focus is on ranking for easy keywords to build topical authority, while more established businesses (Scalers) create thought leadership content and attract external interest.
Content Optimization: Maeva recommends optimizing existing content to increase click-through rates (CTR) and conversion rates, as it can yield quicker wins compared to focusing solely on new content creation.
Fresh Content and Rankings: Refreshing and updating content periodically, especially for pages on the second page of search results, helps maintain relevance and appeal to both readers and search engines.
Should You Include Last Updated Dates in Your Blog Posts? The podcast begins with a practical question on whether including the "last updated" date in a blog post is necessary. Maeva advises that having the date on the blog post is considered best practice. For industries where information changes rapidly, it benefits users to know when the content was last updated to assess its relevance and accuracy. Considering user experience is essential, and including the date ensures transparency and builds trust with your audience.
Key Timecodes
(1:25) Why you should listen to Maeva
(2:00) What is SEO?
(2:55) What you need to have before starting SEO
(4:50) Mistakes companies make while implementing SEO
(7:29) What to do to get the most out of SEO
(10:34) The best SEO practices
(15:25) The bottom of the funnel example
(16:50) The importance of refreshing content
(19:17) Maeva’s success story
(23:45) Does duplicate content hurt your SEO?
(25:46) AI effect on SEO
(28:37) How to grow to 10K MRR
(30:01) How to grow to 10M ARR
(31:05) What does Maeva wish she knew 10yrs ago?

Aug 1, 2023 • 32min
S2E4 - How to sell your B2B SaaS? with Thomas Smale
Welcome to the Growing a B2B SaaS podcast, where we provide actionable advice on all aspects of growing a business-to-business software company. Whether it's customer success, sales, funding, bootstrapping, exits, or scaling, we've got you covered. In this episode, we'll dive into the topic of making your SaaS startup sellable and discuss the steps to selling your business successfully. Our special guest today is Thomas Smale, the founder and CEO of FE International, Inc, a tech-focused M&A advisory firm with an impressive track record of over 1 billion in closed transactions and more than 1200 deals completed worldwide.
Getting Ready for an Acquisition
Understanding the Path to Acquisition Thomas begins by emphasizing that the decision to sell a SaaS business should be considered early on in its journey. Once a business starts gaining traction, usually at around $1,000 monthly recurring revenue (MRR), founders should start thinking about their long-term goals. It's essential to be honest with oneself about what you want to achieve, whether it's building a billion-dollar valuation or a smaller, million-dollar valuation. Each path requires different strategies and efforts, and defining your goals early will help you align your business accordingly.
Valuation Methods
Thomas explains that valuing a SaaS business is a complex process. While the most common approach is using precedent transactions (comparing the business to similar ones that have been sold), there are various valuation methodologies. These include discounted cash flow analysis (DCF) and multiples of revenue or profit. However, no single formula fits all businesses, and it's crucial to consider the specifics of each case to arrive at a fair valuation.
Common Mistakes to Avoid
One of the most common mistakes SaaS founders make when preparing to sell is artificially inflating short-term profitability to improve valuation. This involves cutting costs or laying off staff to increase profit margins temporarily. Such tactics can backfire in the long run and are easily spotted by savvy buyers. Instead, focus on building a strong and sustainable business model with genuine profitability.
Challenges in the Selling Process
One of the main challenges for founders is managing their expectations during the selling process. Unrealistic valuation goals can hinder the selling process, leading to wasted time and missed opportunities. Thomas advises being open to negotiations and realistic about the market value of your business. Additionally, founders sometimes try to handle the selling process themselves to save money, but this can result in suboptimal outcomes. Engaging an experienced M&A firm can lead to better deals and higher returns, making it a valuable investment.
Key Timecodes
(1:16) Why you should listen to Thomas
(1:55) – What is M&A?
(2:52) When should a SaaS founders consider acquiring themselves?
(6:50) Different ways to value businesses.
(8:27) The most common mistakes companies make before they try to sell their business or even while selling their business?
(10:53) What are the most common challenges startups face while selling their business?
(12:04) Set realistic expectations.
(13:10) The acquisition process
(17:41)– When to sell your SaaS
(18:47) When to ask for help?
(21:22)– 10k MRR advice
(22:59)– Multi-Channel Marketing approach
(26:36) 10million ARR Advice
(27:33) What Thomas Wishes he knew 10years ago
(30:00)– Get in touch with Thomas.


