

Talking Roadmaps
Phil Hornby and Justin Woods
Your roadmap to better product. Interviews and other discussions with experts, practitioners and thought leaders.
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Dec 19, 2025 • 54min
What’s the problem with product-mode? | Thomas Hartmann
In this engaging discussion, Thomas Hartmann, Co-founder of Product Masterclass, unveils his insights on transitioning B2B software companies from project to product mode. He highlights seven recurring challenges that inspired his framework, contrasts project versus product roadmaps, and emphasizes the importance of shifting focus from individual customer requests to broader market opportunities. Thomas also shares practical hacks for mindset change and the necessity of leadership alignment to achieve scalability and profitability.

Dec 5, 2025 • 49min
Should Product Operations Operate at the Portfolio Level? | Becky Flint
Becky Flint, Founder and CEO of Dragonboat, brings her extensive experience from PayPal and BigCommerce to discuss the evolving role of product operations. She highlights the importance of portfolio-level orchestration in product strategy. Key topics include how organizational structure influences models, the need for shared data to enhance decision-making, and measuring the ROI of product operations. Becky emphasizes that processes must be treated as products for efficiency, advocating a mindset that accelerates collective impact across teams.

Nov 21, 2025 • 47min
Should Product Operations be involved in roadmapping? | Valentina Thörner
Valentina Thörner, Head of Product Operations at ZF, shares her expertise in product management and operations. She discusses the necessity of product operations as teams grow, emphasizing goals like improving data quality and enhancing collaboration. Valentina also tackles challenges in cross-functional communication, the significance of templates for remote work, and best practices for visibility. Additionally, she highlights the importance of hiring at the right time and the human touch in remote work, advocating for in-person interactions to boost team dynamics.

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Nov 7, 2025 • 36min
Do You Need a Product Operations Strategy? | Ana Zrno
Ana Zrno, Director of Product Operations at Wrike, brings over 20 years of experience in product roles. She dives into why product operations are essential for fostering team focus on value and removing obstacles. Ana reveals the flexible nature of product ops, serving various stakeholders based on company needs. She shares best practices, warns against becoming process-obsessed, and emphasizes the importance of strategic planning. Plus, she discusses the role of product ops in roadmapping and advocates for a user-focused mindset in product management.

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Oct 24, 2025 • 42min
Is Automation the Future of Product Ops? | Satyavati Kharde
Satyavati Kharde, a Product and AI consultant at Zühlke Group and Nobody Studios with a PhD in life sciences, explores product operations' future. She likens product ops to air traffic control, harmonizing chaos into clarity. Satya emphasizes the integration of automation to elevate strategic roles and enhance decision-making. She shares insights on using AI for internal research and automated campaigns for user validation. By balancing quantitative metrics with qualitative satisfaction, she reveals how structure can create creative freedom in product operations.

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Oct 10, 2025 • 41min
Is Product Operations a system or a function? | Christine Itwaru
Christine Itwaru, VP of Product Management at Beamer and Userflow, brings 15 years of product expertise to the discussion on product operations. She emphasizes that product ops is a vital system for aligning teams and delivering customer value across entire organizations. Christine dispels myths about its scope, shares insights on when to introduce it during company growth, and offers best practices for implementation. She also tackles the role of AI in product ops, asserting that while it can aid processes, the human touch remains essential for success.

Sep 26, 2025 • 42min
Should Product Ops aim to be redundant? | Hugo Froes
Hugo Froes, Head of Product Operations at OLX, shares his insights on the role of product ops in scaling organizations. He argues that product ops should aim to become redundant by removing friction and optimizing processes. Hugo discusses the critical moments when product ops become essential, how to structure them effectively, and the importance of collaboration. He also warns against rigidity, highlights best practices for starting product ops, and reframes critics’ views by positioning product ops as enabling teams. A must-listen for those in product management!

Sep 12, 2025 • 36min
How to hire a great product operations team? | Jessica Soroky
Jessica Soroky, S. Director of Product Ops and Chief of Staff, dives into the art of building great product operations teams. She discusses the vital role of adapting to change and fostering experimentation within teams. Soroky emphasizes effective hiring strategies that prioritize skill sets over experience, along with the importance of mentorship. The conversation also highlights the essential integration of product operations with program management and the critical need for data-driven approaches in decision-making. Tune in for valuable insights into enhancing product functions!

Aug 29, 2025 • 58min
Should you prioritise product delight? | Nesrine Changuel
In this bonus episode - Nesrine Changuel, Author of Product Delight and Founder @ Product Excellence. Have a listen!

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Aug 15, 2025 • 46min
Does product operations enable value creation? | Melissa Perri
Melissa Perri, a product management and operations expert, shares her insights on the critical role of product operations in organizations. She discusses strategies for identifying product management needs and emphasizes the importance of supporting product teams for sustainable success. Perri highlights how effective product operations enhance team efficiency through tools and automation, while also dispelling misconceptions about its scope. She shares valuable case studies and best practices, illustrating how strategic collaboration drives value creation and alignment with organizational goals.


