Food Junkies Podcast

Have you ever wondered why cravings for junk food can return weeks—or even months—after you’ve stopped eating it? Neuroscience has an answer. In this fascinating episode, Dr. Vera Tarman speaks with Dr. Guillaume de Lartigue, Associate Professor at the Monell Chemical Senses Center and the University of Pennsylvania. His groundbreaking research reveals how the hippocampus—the brain’s memory hub—stores food-related memories that can later be reactivated by sights, smells, or even routines like watching Netflix at night. These memory cues, combined with the dopamine-driven reward system, help explain why ultra-processed foods are so hard to resist. Together, Dr. Tarman and Dr. de Lartigue explore: The difference between metabolic hunger, hedonic hunger, and memory-cued hunger How fats and sugars create separate memory traces in the brain—and why foods combining both are especially addictive Why food memories can trigger cravings long after the food itself is gone How childhood exposure, stress, and even in-utero diet shape lifelong vulnerability to food cues The impact of artificial sweeteners on memory, satiety, and “the broken stop switch” Why food marketing deliberately exploits our memory circuits Emerging treatments: from behavioral retraining to potential drugs that could dampen food-related memories Dr. de Lartigue’s research shows that food cravings aren’t just about willpower—they’re wired deep into our biology. But with awareness, deliberate habit-building, and future medical advances, there is hope for reshaping how our brains respond to ultra-processed foods. ✨ Key Takeaway: Our brains remember every rewarding food experience, and those memories are designed to pull us back for more—even when we’re not hungry. Recognizing this isn’t weakness—it’s science. The content of our show is educational only. It does not supplement or supersede your healthcare provider's professional relationship and direction. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified mental health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition, substance use disorder, or mental health concern. 

In this episode of the Food Junkies Podcast, Dr. Vera Tarman welcomes Dr. Anna Barbieri, a board-certified gynecologist and integrative medicine physician who specializes in menopause, perimenopause, PCOS, and PMS. Dr. Barbieri is also a certified menopause practitioner and co-founder of Electra Health, where she blends conventional medicine with holistic, evidence-based approaches to women’s hormonal health. Together, they explore the fascinating, complex, and often overlooked role hormones play in shaping women’s appetite, cravings, and relationship with food across the lifespan. From the ups and downs of PMS and perimenopause, to the challenges of menopause and PCOS, Dr. Barbieri explains how sex hormones, stress hormones, and appetite-regulating hormones intersect—and what women can do to support their health through these transitions. 💬 Topics covered in this episode: What hormones are and how they regulate appetite (ghrelin, leptin, CCK, GLP-1) The influence of estrogen and progesterone on hunger and satiety Cortisol, stress, and why cravings often center on sugar and carbs PMS, perimenopause, and menopause: why cravings change across the cycle and lifespan The role of progesterone in mental health, postpartum depression, and brain function PCOS, insulin resistance, and appetite regulation Visceral fat, metabolic risk, and why body composition shifts after menopause Thyroid health, autoimmunity, and the overlap with perimenopausal symptoms GLP-1 medications: opportunities and cautions for women’s health Hormone therapy (HRT/MHT): benefits, risks, and myths Lifestyle and supplement strategies to support hormonal balance ✨ Key Takeaways: Hormones are powerful, interconnected, and influence not only physical but also emotional and mental health. Appetite changes in PMS, perimenopause, menopause, and PCOS are not simply about willpower—they’re tied to real physiological shifts. Cortisol, stress, and sleep disruption can drive cravings and weight gain, particularly in midlife. Hormone therapy can help manage symptoms and may protect long-term health, but lifestyle changes—nutrition, movement, stress relief, sleep, and mindful supplementation—remain essential. Women can age well with or without hormone therapy by taking intentional steps to support metabolic and emotional health. 🎙️ About our guest: Dr. Anna Barbieri is a practicing gynecologist, certified menopause practitioner, and integrative medicine physician based in New York City. She is a fellow of the University of Arizona’s Integrative Medicine Fellowship and co-founder of Electra Health, a digital platform revolutionizing women’s healthcare. She is passionate about helping women understand their hormones and use both conventional and holistic tools to feel their best.   The content of our show is educational only. It does not supplement or supersede your healthcare provider's professional relationship and direction. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified mental health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition, substance use disorder, or mental health concern. 

Dr. Vera Tarman sits down with Dr. Bart Kay—former professor of health sciences turned “nutrition science watchdog”—to unpack a big, practical question for people in recovery from ultra-processed food use: If sugar needs to go, what about other carbs? And where does dietary fat fit in? We explore Dr. Kay’s perspective on the Randle (Randall) cycle, insulin resistance, mixed macro diets, seed oils, ketogenic/carnivore patterns, and real-world considerations for folks with sugar/UPF addiction who struggle to “moderate.” We also discuss staged change (don’t flip your diet overnight), what “abstainer vs. moderator” can mean in food recovery, and how to keep any nutrition experiment aligned with your health team and your recovery plan. What we cover The “Randle cycle,” plain-English: why mixing higher carbs and higher fats may worsen metabolic friction, and why choosing one dominant fuel is central to Dr. Kay’s model. Insulin resistance re-framed: why Dr. Kay views it as a protective cellular response (his position) and how that informs low-carb/carnivore advocacy. Carbs in recovery: “quit sugar” vs. “how low is low?”—Dr. Kay’s thresholds (e.g., ≤50 g/day unlikely to cause problems in his view) and why many with UPF addiction do better with abstinence than moderation. Fats & satiety: why dietary fat often increases fullness cues; practical guardrails; “can you eat too much fat or protein?” Seed oils: Dr. Kay’s strong critique of industrial seed oils and his inflammation concerns. Cholesterol worries on low-carb/carnivore: why lipid numbers may rise and how Dr. Kay interprets A1C and lipid changes (controversial; see note below). GLP-1s, metformin & meds: Dr. Kay’s take on drug mechanisms vs. root-cause nutrition changes. Change management: why he recommends a 4–6 week ramp instead of an overnight switch to very low-carb/carnivore; supporting thyroid, energy, and the microbiome while you transition. Recovery lens: abstainer vs. moderator, harm-reduction steps when “only food will regulate,” and building a plan that supports mental health and addiction recovery. Key takeaways Abstinence can be a kindness. If you’re a “can’t moderate sugar” person, treating sugar/UPFs as an abstinence-worthy trigger can protect your recovery. Don’t crash-diet your microbiome. If you’re experimenting with lower-carb or carnivore, step down over 4–6 weeks with plenty of electrolytes, hydration, and support. Pick a lane with macros. In Dr. Kay’s model, mixing higher carbs with higher fats is the most metabolically problematic; choosing one dominant fuel source may reduce friction. Numbers are data, not destiny. Lipids and A1C can shift on low-carb—interpret changes with a clinician who understands your whole picture (medical history, meds, symptoms, goals). Harm-reduction still counts. If full abstinence isn’t feasible today: remove red-light foods first, shrink access, use “pause + plan” tools, and reach out before the binge. About our guest Dr. Bart Kay is a former professor of human physiology, nutrition, and vascular pathophysiology with teaching/research stints in New Zealand, Australia, the UK, and the US. He’s consulted for elite sport and defense organizations and now educates the public on YouTube as a self-described nutrition myth-buster. One of his core topics is the Randle cycle and its implications for diet composition. Dr. Kay's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Professor-Bart-Kay-Nutrition   The content of our show is educational only. It does not supplement or supersede your healthcare provider's professional relationship and direction. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified mental health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition, substance use disorder, or mental health concern.

Meet Sunnie, whose name fits her perfectly; she is truly a ray of sunshine. With warmth and openness, she shares her personal journey with food addiction in a way that brings hope and healing to others. Sunnie has the rare gift of championing everyone, celebrating victories both big and small, and reminding us that every step forward matters. Her honesty and courage light the path for those still struggling, and her kindness uplifts all who know her. She is an inspiration, a bright soul, and I feel so blessed to call her my friend. I just absolutely love her! Feel free to join our supportive community on Facebook: Sugar-Free for Life Support Group - where we believe "I'm Sweet Enough." If you're considering personalized assistance, CJ, a Certified Addiction Professional specializing in Food Addiction, is here for one-on-one coaching. Reach out to CJ at cjnguy@myfoodaddictioncoach.com  Interested in sharing your recovery story on our show? We'd love to hear from you! Please email FJRecoverystories@gmail.com  If you find inspiration in recovery narratives, you won't want to miss the Food Junkies Podcast. Check it out at https://www.foodjunkiespodcast.com/.

In this episode, Vera and Renae explore bulimorexia—a term used for people who oscillate between restriction and binge/purge behaviors—and how this mixed pattern might help explain stubborn relapse rates across eating disorders and food addiction. Dr. Norton shares her clinical lens on risks (medical and psychological), why some traditional programs may miss the mark, and what a holistic, skills-based, harm-reduction treatment can look like (family involvement, gentle re-feeding, DBT/EMDR, food quality, and relapse prevention). Note: Some views expressed are the guest’s opinions and experience. This episode is educational and not medical advice. Please consult your care team. What we cover Defining “bulimorexia”: alternating restriction with binge/purge; how it differs from anorexia nervosa and bulimia nervosa; why it’s easier to hide than classic anorexia. Continuum vs. categories: where binge eating disorder fits; overlap with food addiction. Why relapse is common: risks of aggressive refeeding; short-stay residential models; lack of individualized care; missing family systems support. Medical risks (high-level): cardiac arrhythmias and hypotension, esophageal tears/GERD, laxative misuse and constipation, electrolyte disturbance, kidney strain, dental/enamel erosion, parotid swelling, menstrual disruption and fertility concerns. Psychological load: anxiety/OCD traits, depression, social avoidance; the “addiction to restricting” and the short-term ‘high’ of hunger. Treatment principles Dr. Norton uses: Gentle, stepwise re-feeding (small, frequent meals; stabilize blood sugar; avoid triggering extremes). Skills over meal plans (shop, prep, and eat whole foods; mindful interoception). DBT for arousal regulation, plus EMDR and trauma work as indicated. Family-based involvement (Maudsley-style boundaries and support). Movement re-entry: slow, safe progression; curbing compulsive exercise. Relapse prevention: strong parent/caregiver alignment, food routines, anxiety skills, and ongoing monitoring. Contested terrain: ultra-processed food, additives, and differing regulations by region; the guest’s emphasis on “clean/organic” sourcing. Intermittent fasting cautions: for restrict-prone folks, it can mask restriction; prefer regular, structured eating. What recovery can look like: decreased self-hatred, restored relationships, school/work re-engagement, and more flexible functioning. Resources from the guest: forthcoming book Below the Radar: What They’re Not Telling You About Your Food; wellness tools she finds helpful. Suggested chapter markers 00:00 Welcome & guest intro 02:20 What is “bulimorexia”? How it differs from AN/BN 10:55 Why relapse stays high; critique of standard programs 18:30 Medical complications: heart, GI, dental, endocrine 28:15 Psychological patterns: anxiety, OCD traits, depression 34:40 Treatment pillars: re-feeding, DBT/EMDR, family work 45:05 Food quality and UPFs: guest’s perspective & debate 53:10 Intermittent fasting cautions; safe movement 58:20 Relapse prevention & outcomes 1:04:10 Advice to clinicians, families, and society 1:08:00 What’s next for Dr. Norton & closing Key takeaways (listener-friendly) Mixed patterns (restricting and binge/purge) may be under-recognized and can carry high medical risk. Slow, individualized re-feeding plus emotion-regulation skills (DBT) and family involvement improve safety and engagement. If you’re prone to restriction, consistent meals beat fasting. Recovery gains include less self-hatred, more connection, and functional life goals—progress over perfection. Sensitive content note This episode discusses eating-disorder behaviors (restriction, purging, laxatives, insulin manipulation) and medical complications. Please use discretion and support. Links & mentions Dr. Renae Norton — Norton Wellness Institute / Mind, Weight & Wellness Pro Book (forthcoming): Below the Radar: What They’re Not Telling You About Your Food Maudsley/Family-Based Treatment (FBT) overview DBT skills resources (distress tolerance, emotion regulation, interpersonal effectiveness) If you need help now: NEDA (US), BEAT (UK), local crisis lines, or your clinician. For clinicians Screen for mixed presentations (restrict + purge), including non-vomit purging (laxatives, insulin manipulation). Prioritize medical monitoring (vitals, electrolytes) during re-feeding; avoid one-size-fits-all calorie jumps. Integrate DBT skills, caregiver coaching, and regular eating structure; track arousal and urge patterns.   The content of our show is educational only. It does not supplement or supersede your healthcareprovider's professional relationship and direction. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified mental health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition, substance use disorder, or mental health concern.

We’ve all heard the buzz about GLP-1 medications like Ozempic—are they a miracle cure or a cause for concern? In this episode of the Food Junkies Podcast, Dr. Vera Tarman speaks with renowned physician, researcher, and bestselling author Dr. Michael Greger about the risks, benefits, and natural alternatives to GLP-1 drugs. Dr. Greger breaks down what the science really says: how these medications work, their long-term implications, and why many people stop using them. He also highlights how diet, exercise, and fiber-rich foods can naturally boost GLP-1, reduce cravings, and support lasting weight loss without the downsides. Together, they explore: The risks and side effects of GLP-1 medications Why weight loss plateaus on these drugs and what that means long-term The concerning issue of muscle and bone loss during rapid weight reduction Natural GLP-1 boosters like turmeric, cinnamon, vinegar, whole grains, legumes, and leafy greens Why fiber may be the single most important missing nutrient in our diets The role of food addiction, cravings, and our evolutionary biology How to maximize appetite regulation naturally through the “ileal break” phenomenon Dr. Greger makes the case for using whole food, plant-based nutrition to achieve the benefits of GLP-1 drugs—without the risks. 💌 Email us at foodjunkiespodcast@gmail.com THERE IS STILL TIME TO JOIN US for IFACC 2025! In-Person AND Livestream tickets are STILL AVAILABLE! 🔗 The International Food Addiction & Comorbidity Conference (IFACC) 2025: Donate for the chance to win a virtual ticket!! Purchase your IFACC 2025 ticket!! The content of our show is educational only. It does not supplement or supersede your healthcare provider's professional relationship and direction. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified mental health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition, substance use disorder, or mental health concern.  

In this episode of the Food Junkies Podcast, Dr. Vera Tarman speaks with Bonnie Newlin, registered dietitian nutritionist, Certified LEAP Therapist, founder of Crave Nourishment, and member of the Lipedema Education Group. Bonnie specializes in the nutritional management of lipedema and chronic inflammation. Lipedema is a progressive adipose and connective tissue disorder that primarily impacts women, often misdiagnosed as obesity. Bonnie shares her own story of living with lipedema—including a 170-pound weight loss, delayed diagnosis, and eventual lipidema reduction surgery—and how food addiction and weight cycling complicate early recognition of the condition. Together, Dr. Tarman and Bonnie explore: What lipedema is and how it differs from obesity and lymphedema Early signs, symptoms, and barriers to diagnosis The role of hormonal changes in progression Why ultra-processed foods and sodium worsen lipedema symptoms The connection between lipedema, food addiction, and binge/restrict cycles How anti-inflammatory nutrition and lifestyle strategies can reduce pain, swelling, and disease progression Emerging treatments, including compression therapy, lymphatic drainage, vibration therapy, and lipedema reduction surgery Myths about lipedema and why it’s often misunderstood in medical settings Bonnie’s vision for DNA-guided nutrition research to better serve this population This episode sheds light on a condition that may affect up to 11% of women yet remains underdiagnosed and misunderstood. If you or someone you know struggles with chronic swelling, painful fat, or unexplained weight changes—especially alongside food addiction—this conversation offers clarity, compassion, and hope. 👉 Learn more about Bonnie’s work at Crave Nourishment 💌 Email us at foodjunkiespodcast@gmail.com 🔗 The International Food Addiction & Comorbidity Conference (IFACC) 2025: Donate for the chance to win a virtual ticket!! Purchase your IFACC 2025 ticket!! The content of our show is educational only. It does not supplement or supersede your healthcare provider's professional relationship and direction. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified mental health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition, substance use disorder, or mental health concern.  

In this episode of the Food Junkies Podcast, Dr. Vera Tarman and Clarissa Kennedy welcome back Dr. Nicole Avena — neuroscientist, researcher, and author — to discuss her team’s latest paper exploring a provocative question: Could GLP-1 receptor agonists, while reducing food cravings, also negatively impact dopamine regulation, mood, and addiction risk? Dr. Avena breaks down the science behind GLP-1 drugs, their effects on the brain’s reward pathways, and why these mechanisms might lead to unintended consequences such as anhedonia, apathy, and depressive symptoms. Together, they examine potential tolerance and rebound effects, the role of GABAergic neurons, and the paradox of eliminating “food noise” while risking a hypodopaminergic state. The conversation also covers dose-dependence, the importance of holistic support and mindful eating skills, and ethical considerations for use in vulnerable populations — especially those with a history of addiction or mental health challenges. Listeners will gain nuanced insight into: How GLP-1s work in the brain’s reward and motivation systems Why side effects may be tied to dosing, individual sensitivity, and muscle loss The risk of emotional flattening and its impact on recovery and quality of life Strategies to use these medications responsibly, including lower-dose approaches and lifestyle integration Broader implications for the food industry, public health, and prevention — including concerns about pediatric use Dr. Avena also shares a preview of her upcoming talk at the International Food Addiction & Comorbidities Conference in September 2025, where she’ll address GLP-1 research, early-life risk factors for ultra-processed food addiction, and prevention strategies. If you’ve ever wondered about the long-term story behind the GLP-1 craze — especially for those navigating food addiction recovery — this in-depth discussion is a must-listen. Get your IN-PERSON or LIVESTREAM ticket(s) HERE! Use code SSO for a 40% discount!   The content of our show is educational only. It does not supplement or supersede your healthcare provider's professional relationship and direction. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified mental health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition, substance use disorder, or mental health concern.

Christine Trimpe is a transformative wellness leader dedicated to empowering professional Christian women to reclaim their health and vitality through her faith-based, holistic approach to weight loss. As the founder of The SugarFreed Me Method and a certified SUGAR® Licensed Practitioner, Christine helps clients achieve lifelong healing from sugar addiction and food-related struggles. Her clients experience dramatic transformations, including sustained weight loss and breakthroughs in physical, emotional, and spiritual health, with over 80% retention in her programs.   After a personal 100-pound weight loss journey, Christine created a method that goes beyond conventional dieting, integrating faith, emotional regulation, and metabolic health principles. Christine’s own story—marked by a significant health journey, an embrace of ketogenic eating, and a breakthrough lifestyle change—has inspired thousands since she first shared it on her blog and across social media. Her journey has been highlighted in leading wellness magazines, including Woman’s World and First for Women, and featured on ⁦DietDoctor.com⁩, where she was named a top low-carb success story.   Key Takeaways Turning Points Matter – A single moment of frustration or physical limitation can become the catalyst for lasting change when paired with ownership and action. Small Steps First – Christine didn’t overhaul her diet overnight. She began by removing obvious sources of sugar, then gradually tackled carbs like bread, pasta, and potatoes. Medical Clues Can Guide Recovery – A sleep apnea diagnosis, fatty liver disease, and hormonal concerns pushed her to seek deeper answers. Education Is Empowerment – Learning about insulin resistance through Dr. Jason Fung and others helped her connect the dots between her symptoms, cravings, and food choices. Freedom from Food Obsession – Letting go of “everything in moderation” and embracing abstinence from trigger foods brought lasting relief from cravings and secret eating. Faith as a Foundation – Daily Bible reading and spiritual reflection became Christine’s source of true satisfaction and stability, replacing food as a coping mechanism. Social Strategies Work – She uses simple, non-judgmental responses when offered foods she avoids, focuses on connection over food, and prepares mentally before events. Recovery Evolves – What worked at one stage may shift with life changes (e.g., menopause), and flexibility paired with self-awareness supports long-term success. Planting Seeds – Helping others often means sharing your story without expectation, trusting that the right moment for change will come in their own timing.

Dr. Tro Kalayjian is a board-certified physician in Internal Medicine and Obesity Medicine, and the founder of Toward Health, a virtual metabolic health clinic helping people break free from food addiction and chronic metabolic disease. He’s also a founding member of the Society of Metabolic Health Practitioners and an international speaker on metabolic psychiatry, obesity, and nutrition science. But what makes Dr. Tro’s work truly powerful is that it’s personal. He grew up in a household affected by obesity and struggled with his own weight into adulthood, reaching over 350 pounds. After years of frustration with traditional medical advice, he took a deep dive into the research and completely transformed his health—losing over 150 pounds and sustaining that loss for more than a decade. His clinic’s latest research, published in Frontiers in Psychiatry, shows how combining low-carb nutrition with real-time support, psychological care, and metabolic monitoring can significantly reduce food addiction and binge eating symptoms—offering hope for those who haven’t found relief in diets or medications alone. Dr. Tro is passionate about helping others find food freedom, and today he’s here to share the science, the struggle, and the solutions that actually work. Research Highlights: Published in Frontiers in Psychiatry (2025): 43 lbs average weight loss ~40–50% improvement in food addiction and binge eating symptoms Outcomes comparable to medications (e.g. amphetamines, GLP-1s) — but without long-term side effects Case series (220 people) on keto for binge eating showed significant improvements, challenging the old myth that "restrictive diets worsen eating disorders" 🛠️ What Actually Works (Tro's "Shotgun Protocol"): Like treating sepsis with a bundled care approach, he bundles these for food addiction: The TOWARD Framework: Texting access to your medical team (real-time support like AA sponsors) Online visits with doctors and coaches Wellness coaching Asynchronous education (on-demand app resources) Real-time biofeedback (CGMs, scales, blood pressure) Dietary intervention (low-carb/therapeutic carb restriction)🧠 Behavioral + Biological + Social Support = Results 🍳 Food & Physiology: Therapeutic carb level: ~30g net carbs/day (but customized for each client) Focus: Real food, nutrient density, stable blood sugar, and ketone production Biological drivers of addiction: FTO & MC4R genes (linked to low satiety), ADHD traits, dopamine-seeking Physiology matters: No regulation if you're low in protein, vitamin D, or sleep-deprived 💥 Why Diet Isn’t Enough: Food addiction is not just about willpower It's a poly-substance addiction: sugar, carbs, processed fats, additives, and volume Even abstinent foods (like nuts or yogurt) can become part of volume addiction “You need more than a food plan. You need a psychological and emotional toolkit too.” 😫 Barriers to Recovery: Stress, trauma, pain, lack of sleep all increase relapse risk GLP-1 medications (like Ozempic) may suppress appetite short-term but: Lead to muscle loss Double weight regain speed if stopped Often used without a lifestyle program = future harm ❤️ The Human Side: Shame, guilt, and blame paralyze recovery “This isn’t a willpower issue. This is a food relationship issue driven by biology and trauma.” One of his biggest lessons: “Take the disgust off yourself and place it on the substance. That’s freedom.” 🧠 Mental Experiments That Helped: Tro experimented on himself with yogurt, berries, fasting, etc., to observe what triggered hunger or satiation Asked: What makes people subconsciously eat less? → Ketogenic diet consistently decreased intake 📊 Cost & Accessibility: Clinic costs $500/month but aims to be covered by employers (and is free to many employees) Medical savings to employers = $2,000–$4,500 per year per person Tro's long-term vision: accessible, affordable, whole-person care that rivals any prescription drug Final Thoughts from Dr. Tro: "Don’t believe the lies. Do your own homework. And eat meat." Recovery is possible, but it must include compassion, community, and comprehensive care. Tro will be speaking on emotional and cognitive manipulation of hunger at the upcoming International Food Addiction & Comorbidities Conference in London (Sept 2025) Follow Dr. Tro: Recent Publication: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2025.1548609/full Join us via Livestream for two full days of talks and plenary sessions, and, in recognition of your support, use code SSO to get a 40% discount: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/ifacc2025-two-day-conference-4-5-september-2025-online-or-in-person-tickets-1226143812149?aff=oddtdtcreator&fbclid=IwY2xjawMB8iVleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFHY1g0d3R0b2hYdTFnMmhNAR5WiXm-cuXEnOUh40YV4TwTnXtMNdpkdXK9lzyXdIZIuE3OdtJho4U7g-ySFA_aem_9TqBY-e2_oaGzzekZpiq2g Website: https://toward.health