

The CGAI Podcast Network
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Episodes
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Sep 1, 2022 • 36min
Energy Security Cubed: Unpacking the JCPOA Nuclear Agreement with Greg Brew
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including South Korea's nuclear plans, electricity price caps in Europe, and the latest update in the Line 5 saga.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly Ogle talks with Greg Brew about the current state of the JCPOA nuclear agreement, and how the history of Iran-U.S. relations complicates things.
Guest Bio:
- Greg Brew is a CGAI Fellow and a Postdoctoral Fellow in International Security Studies at Yale University's Jackson School of Global Affairs
Find Greg's two upcoming books here:
The Struggle for Iran: Oil, Autocracy, and the Cold War, 1951–1954 - https://www.amazon.com/Struggle-Iran-Autocracy-Cold-1951-1954/dp/1469671662
Petroleum and Progress in Iran: Oil, Development, and the Cold War - https://www.amazon.com/Petroleum-Progress-Iran-Development-Cold/dp/1009206346
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
What is Greg reading?
- Public Citizens: The Attack on Big Government and the Remaking of American Liberalism, by Paul Sabin https://www.amazon.ca/Public-Citizens-Government-Remaking-Liberalism/dp/0393634043
- Disorder: Hard Times in the 21st Century, by Helen Thompson https://www.amazon.ca/Disorder-Hard-Times-21st-Century/dp/0198864981
- The Triumph of Broken Promises: The End of the Cold War and the Rise of Neoliberalism, by Fritz Bartel https://www.amazon.ca/Triumph-Broken-Promises-Cold-Neoliberalism/dp/0674976789
Interview recording Date: August 29, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Aug 29, 2022 • 46min
The Global Exchange: Putting India at the Centre of the Indo-Pacific
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Goldy Hyder and Victor Thomas about the importance of including India in Canada's approach to the Indo-Pacific.
This episode was inspired by a Business Council of Canada/ Canada-India Business Council Report, "Why India: Unlocking Canada's opportunity in the Indo-Pacific," https://thebusinesscouncil.ca/report/why-india/
Guests:
Goldy Hyder is the President and CEO of the Business Council of Canada – https://thebusinesscouncil.ca/about-us/staff-and-leadership/
Victor Thomas is the President and CEO of the Canada-India Business Council – https://www.canada-indiabusiness.com/president-ceo
Host:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat, and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
What our guests are reading:
Unprecedented: Canada's Top CEOs on Leadership during COVID-19 by Steve Mayer and Andrew Willis – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/708464/unprecedented-by-steve-mayer-and-andrew-willis/9780771002137
The Joy of Compounding: The Passionate Pursuit of Lifelong Learning by Gautam Baid – https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/the-joys-of-compounding-the/9780231197328-item.html
Recording Date: 26 August 2022.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Aug 26, 2022 • 56min
Defence Deconstructed: Six Months of Conflict in Ukraine
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to LGen (re't) D. Michael Day, Andrew Rasiulis, and MGen (ret'd) Scott Clancy to take stock of the first six months of the war in Ukraine.
This episode of Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Chantier Davie.
Participants Bios:
LGen (re't) D. Michael Day is a CGAI fellow
Andrew Rasiulis is a CGAI fellow
MGen (ret'd) Scott Clancy is a CGAI fellow
What our guests are reading:
Ravenna: Capital of Empire, Crucible of Europe – https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691153438/ravenna
The Great Transformation by Karen Armstrong – https://www.renaud-bray.com/Livres_Produit.aspx?id=707836&def=Great+transformation(The)%2CARMSTRONG%2C+KAREN%2C0676974651
Self-Publish and Succeed by Julie Broad – https://www.amazon.ca/Self-Publish-Succeed-Boring-Writing-Non-Fiction-ebook/dp/B08R16WBPT#customerReviews
Parade State Zero by Christian Lilington – https://warriors4life.ca/parade-state-zero
Host Bio:
Dave Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Recording Date: 24 August 2022
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Aug 25, 2022 • 42min
Energy Security Cubed: The End of Russian Energy in Europe with Olga Khakova
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including German Chancellor Scholz's visit to Canada, prospects for OPEC+ spare oil capacity, and the severe drought in China.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly Ogle talks with Olga Khakova about Europe's current painful transition away from Russian energy.
Guest Bio:
- Olga Khakova is Deputy Director for European energy security at the Atlantic Council's Global Energy Center
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
What is Olga reading?
- The Orphanage: A Novel, by Serhiy Zhadan
https://www.amazon.ca/Orphanage-Novel-Serhiy-Zhadan/dp/0300243014
Interview recording Date: August 22, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Aug 24, 2022 • 39min
Battle Rhythm: Excellence Scholars
In the fourth episode of Battle Rhythm, Season 2 with co-host Linna Tam-Seto, Research Associate in the Trauma and Recovery Lab at McMaster University, and former post-doc fellow of the CDSN. Steve & Linna discuss the CDSN Summer Institute highlights, Veterans Affairs MAiD recommendation and the CBSA discrimination survey. For today’s feature interview, Steve speaks with last year’s Undergraduate Excellence scholars, Safia Hafid and Alex Rizkallah about their MINDS funded projects.

Aug 22, 2022 • 50min
The Global Exchange: Can Canada Make a Difference?
On this episode of the Global Exchange, Dick Fadden speaks to Kerry Buck, Ben Rowswell, and Peter van Praagh about how Canada can contribute on the world stage.
This episode is an extract from our conference "After the War: What Kind of World for Canada?" which happened on May 10th, 2022. This event was made possible thanks to the support of our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Davie Shipyard, and of our Bronze conference sponsors, Enbridge and TD.
Watch the panel on CPAC: https://www.cpac.ca/episode?id=28afc46c-d208-4e15-94a5-e730430b048e
Catch up on all the conference content on: https://www.cgai.ca/canada_and_the_world_2022
Read:
Know It All by James H. Marsh – www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/k…840-item.html
The Holocaust in History by Michael Marrus – https://books.google.ca/books/about/The_Holocaust_in_History.html?id=kAcsAQAAMAAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y
Agatha Christie's short stories – https://www.agathachristie.com/en/stories?format=short-story&character=all
The Lost Shtetl by Max Gross – https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-lost-shtetl-max-gross?variant=33051652456482
Th Nature of Empires and the Empires of Nature by Karl S. Hele – https://www.wlupress.wlu.ca/Books/T/The-Nature-of-Empires-and-the-Empires-of-Nature2
Robert E. Lee: A Life by Allen C. Guelzo – utorontopress.com/9781487524210/th…aily-plebiscite/
Participants bios
Kerry Buck is a retired career diplomat, a fellow at the University of Ottawa' Graduate School of Public and International Affairs
Ben Rowswell is a former career diplomat and the President of the Canadian International Council
Peter van Praagh is the President and Founder of the Halifax International Security Forum
Host Bio;
Dick Fadden is a member of CGAI's Advisory Council
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat, and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Recording Date: 10 May 2022.
Give 'The Global Exchange' a review on Apple Podcast!
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on Linkedin.
Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Aug 19, 2022 • 26min
Defence Deconstructed: NATO's Northern Flank with VAdm Dwyer
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Dave Perry speaks to VAdm Daniel Dwyer, the Commander of the only NATO command in North America, JFC Norfolk.
This episode of Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Chantier Davie.
Participant Bio:
Vice Admiral Dwyer is the Commander U.S. 2nd Fleet, Commander Joint Force Command Norfolk, and Director, Combined Joint Operations from the Sea Centre of Excellence since August 20, 2021.
What VAdm Dwyer is reading:
Neptune's Inferno by James D. Hornfisher – www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/82863…ornfischer/
The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors by James D. Hornfisher – www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/82865…ornfischer/
Host Bio:
Dave Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Recording Date: 15 August 2022
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Aug 18, 2022 • 33min
Energy Security Cubed: CAPP on Canada’s Role in Reducing Global Energy Insecurity with Lisa Baiton
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan talk about current events in energy security, including the upcoming visit by German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, Saudi Aramco's spare capacity, and power prices in the United Kingdom.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly Ogle talks with Lisa Baiton about the challenges facing Canada's energy industry in bolstering energy security worldwide.
Guest Bio:
- Lisa Baiton is the President and CEO of the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Interview recording Date: August 9, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Aug 15, 2022 • 51min
The Global Exchange: Getting Canadian Resources to Market
On this episode of the Global Exchange, Jeffrey Simpson speaks to Claire Citeau, Fawn Jackson, Janice MacKinnon, and Susannah Pierce about selling and exporting Canadian resources.
This episode is an extract from our conference "After the War: What Kind of World for Canada?" which happened on May 10th, 2022. This event was made possible thanks to the support of our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Davie Shipyard, and of our Bronze conference sponsors, Enbridge and TD.
Read:
Know It All by James H. Marsh – https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/know-it-all/9781988824840-item.html
Weaving Two Worlds by Christy Smith and Michael McPhie – https://www.weavingtwoworlds.com/
This Will Not Pass by Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns – www.simonandschuster.com/books/This-W…781982172480
Where the Crawdads Sing by Della Owens – https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/where-the-crawdads-sing/9780735219106-item.html
Canada in Question by Peter MacKinnon – https://utorontopress.com/9781487543143/canada-in-question/
The Daily Plebiscite by David Cameron – https://utorontopress.com/9781487524210/the-daily-plebiscite/
Participants bios
Claire Citeau is a CGAI Fellow and the Executive Director of CAFTA – https://www.cgai.ca/claire_citeau
Fawn Jackson is a CGAI Fellow and Chief Sustainability Officer for Dairy Farmers of Canada – https://www.cgai.ca/fawn_jackson
Dr. Janice MacKinnon is a member of CGAI's Advisory Council – https://www.cgai.ca/advisory_council#JaniceMacKinnon
Susannah Pierce is a member of CGAI's Advisory Council and is the President and Country Chair of Shell Canada – https://www.cgai.ca/advisory_council#SusannahPierce
Host Bio;
Jeffrey Simpson is a member of CGAI's Advisory Council
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat, and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Recording Date: 10 May 2022.
Give 'The Global Exchange' a review on Apple Podcast!
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on Linkedin.
Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Aug 12, 2022 • 32min
Defence Deconstructed: RIMPAC 2022
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Rear-Admiral Christopher Robinson about the 2022 iteration of the Rim of the Pacific Exercise.
This episode of Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard.
Participant Bio:
RAdm Christopher Robinson is the Commander of the Maritime Forces Pacific and Joint Task Force Pacific. He served as the Deputy Commander of the 2022 Rim of the Pacific Exercise.
Host Bio:
David Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
What RAdm Robinson is reading
Submarine Technology in the 21st Century by Stan Zimmerman – https://www.trafford.com/en/bookstore/bookdetails/173961-Submarine-Technology-for-the-21st-Century
Recording Date: 10 August 2022
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips