The CGAI Podcast Network
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Episodes
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Dec 15, 2022 • 1h 2min
Energy Security Cubed: West Meets East Part 1 with Jacquie Hoornweg
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss global events in energy security, including nuclear fusion, the global oil market of 2023, and Indonesia's role in battery metals.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly and Jacquie Hoornweg introduce a new segment of the podcast which will focus on overcoming the challenges facing both Eastern and Western Canada.
Guest Bio:
- Jacquie Hoornweg is the Director of Ontario Tech University's Brilliant Energy Institute.
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Book recommendations:
"Another Glass of Tea", by Katherine Ward: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/another-glass-of-tea-katherine-ward/1141665223
Interview recording Date: December 6, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Dec 12, 2022 • 1h 6min
The Global Exchange: A Closer Look on the Indo-Pacific Strategy
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson examines the new Indo-Pacific Strategy with Stewart Beck, Jean Charest, Jonathan Fried, and the Hon. Frank McKenna.
Participants' bios:
Stewart Beck is a retired diplomat, former CEO of the Asia-Pacific Foundation, and a CGAI fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/stewart_beck
Jean Charest is former Premier of Quebec and Cabinet Minister, and a member of CGAI's Advisory Council – https://www.mccarthy.ca/en/people/jean-charest
Jonathan Fried is a retired diplomat and a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/jonathan_fried
The Hon. Frank McKenna is former Premier of New Brunswick, former ambassador to the U.S., and now Deputy Chair at TD Securities – https://www.tdsecurities.com/ca/en/frank-mckenna-biography
Host Bio:
Colin Robertson is a Senior Adviser and a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/staff#robertson
Read and Watch:
Command: The Politics of Military Operations from Korea to Ukraine by Lawrence Freedman – https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250796899/thestoryofrussia
The Story of Russia by Orlando Figes – https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250796899/thestoryofrussia
The Indo-Pacific: New Strategies for Canadian Engagement with a Critical Region edited by Fen Osler Hampson – https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/product/indo-pacific/
Thomas Jefferson: The Art of Power by Jon Meacham – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/209959/thomas-jefferson-the-art-of-power-by-jon-meacham/
State of Terror by Hillary Rodham Clinton and Louise Penny – https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/State-of-Terror/Louise-Penny/9781982173685
Three Pines – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15351648/
Recording Date: 7 December 2022.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Dec 9, 2022 • 32min
Defence Deconstructed: CAF Force Development in a New Strategic Context
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, LGen (ret'd) D. Michael Day is talking to Gen. Wayne Eyre about his Force Development priorities in a new geostrategic context.
This episode is an excerpt from our annual procurement conference, Putting Canadian Procurement on a War Footing, which took place on October 25th in Ottawa. This event was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program, our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Davie Shipyard; Silver Sponsors the Royal Embassy of Norway in Ottawa and Innovation Norway; Bronze sponsors ATCO Frontec, BAE Systems Canada, Bombardier, The Boeing Company, and PAL Aerospace.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard.
Participant's bio:
General Wayne Eyre is Canada's Chief of the Defence Staff – https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/organizational-structure/chief-defence-staff/cds-bio.html
Host bios:
LGen (ret'd) D. Michael Day is a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/d_michael_day
Dr. David Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Recording Date: 25 Oct 2022
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Dec 8, 2022 • 51min
Energy Security Cubed: The Business Case for Hydrogen with Gareth Gregory
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss global events in energy security, including U.S.-EU trade tensions, oil sanctions on Venezuela, and the prospect of a Whiting, Indiana hydrogen hub.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Gareth Gregory about the business of hydrogen.
Guest Bio:
- Gareth Gregory is Head, Strategic Energy, Client Delivery and 59Hydrogen.com™ at Energy Security Services North America Inc.
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Book recommendations:
"Hero of Two Worlds: The Marquis de Lafayette in the Age of Revolution", by Mike Duncan: https://www.amazon.ca/Hero-Two-Worlds-Lafayette-Revolution/dp/154173033X
Interview recording Date: December 5, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Dec 5, 2022 • 1h 1min
The Global Exchange: The Aftermath of the 2022 Midterms
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Bruce Stokes and John Parisella about the outcome of the U.S. midterms and the implications for Canada.
Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In8pcCaY7p4
Participants bios:
Bruce Stokes is the executive director of the German Marshall Fund's Transatlantic Task Force – www.gmfus.org/find-experts/bruce-stokes
John Parisella is a Senior Advisor at NATIONAL and a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/john_parisella
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a Senior Adviser and a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/staff#robertson
Read and Watch:
The Bosch Series by Michael Connelly – https://www.michaelconnelly.com/series/
Books by Anthony Price – https://www.bookseriesinorder.com/anthony-price/
The Crown – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4786824/
Falling for Christmas – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14715170
Recording Date: 1 December 2022.
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Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Dec 2, 2022 • 32min
Defence Deconstructed: Responding to Arctic Maritime Perils
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Adam Lajeunesse about maritime threats to the Arctic and how Canada can effectively respond to them.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Chantier Davie
Participant's bio
Adam Lajeunesse is a Professor at St Francis-Xavier University and a Fellow with the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/adamlajeunesse
Host bio:
David Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/staff#Perry
Read:
"Arctic Perils: Emerging Threats in the Arctic Maritime Environment" by Adam Lajeunesse – https://www.cgai.ca/arctic_perils_emerging_threats_in_the_arctic_maritime_environment
David Perry's and Adam Lajeunesse's testimonies at the House of Commons' Standing Committee on National Defence – https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/NDDN/meeting-38/evidence
"Hardening the Shield: A Credible Deterrent & Capable Defense for North America" by Terrence J. O'Shaughnessy and Peter Fesler – https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/hardening-shield-credible-deterrent-capable-defense-north-america
"Here there be dragons? Chinese submarine options in the Arctic by Adam Lajeunesse and Timothy Choi – https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01402390.2021.1940147?journalCode=fjss20&
U.S. National Security Strategy – https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Biden-Harris-Administrations-National-Security-Strategy-10.2022.pdf
U.S. National Strategy for the Arctic Region –https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/National-Strategy-for-the-Arctic-Region.pdf
Recording Date: 1 Dec 2022
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Dec 1, 2022 • 29min
Energy Security Cubed: Arctic Commercial Activity and Canada's Navy with VAdm Angus Topshee
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe Calnan considers the Indo-Pacific Strategy, the Russian crude oil price cap, and the cost of shielding consumers from energy prices in Europe.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with VAdm Angus Topshee about the impact of current events on Royal Canadian Navy operations in Canada's Arctic.
Guest Bio:
- Vice Admiral Angus Topshee is the Commander of the Royal Canadian Navy
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Book recommendations:
"The Age of Wood: Our Most Useful Material and the Construction of Civilization", by Roland Ennos: https://www.amazon.ca/Age-Wood-Material-Construction-Civilization/dp/1982114738/
Interview recording Date: November 23, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Nov 28, 2022 • 1h 2min
The Global Exchange: Unpacking the Halifax International Security Forum 2022
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Scotty Greenwood, Vina Nadjibulla, Luiza Ch. Savage, and Darrell Bricker about this year's edition of the Halifax International Security Forum.
Participants' bios
Maryscott 'Scotty' Greenwood is the CEO of the Canadia-American Business Council – https://www.scottygreenwood.com/bio
Vina Nadjibulla is a CGAI Fellow and a lecturer at the University of British Columbia – https://www.cgai.ca/vina_nadjibulla
Luiza Ch. Savage is a CGAI Fellow and the Executive Director, Growth at POLITICO – https://www.cgai.ca/luiza_ch_savage
Darrell Bricker is the CEO of Ipsos Global –https://www.cigionline.org/people/darrell-bricker/
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is Senior Adviser and a Fellow of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Resources on HISF:
Ipsos Polls – https://www.ipsos.com/en/halifax-report-2022-threats
https://www.ipsos.com/en/halifax-report-2022-war
https://www.ipsos.com/en/halifax-report-2022-new-institutions
https://www.ipsos.com/en/halifax-report-2022-influence
Watch the Forum – https://www.youtube.com/@HalifaxtheForum/streams
What our guests are reading and streaming:
The Right: The Hundred Year War for American Conservatism by Matthew Continetti – https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-right-matthew-continetti/1139954925
Freedom on Fire: Ukraine's Fight for Freedom – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21376776/
The End of the World is Just the Beginning by Peter Zeihan – https://zeihan.com/end-of-the-world/
The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds, and Democracy by Anand Giridharadas – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/669716/the-persuaders-by-anand-giridharadas/
The Canusa Street Podcast – https://www.wilsoncenter.org/collection/canusa-street-podcast
To Rule the Waves by Bruce Jones – https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Rule-the-Waves/Bruce-Jones/9781982127268
Recording Date: 23 November 2022.
Give 'The Global Exchange' a review on Apple Podcast!
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Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Nov 25, 2022 • 1h 20min
Defence Deconstructed: Canadian and German Perspectives on NATO
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Renée Filiatrault moderates a conversation on Canadian and German views of NATO and its future since Russia's invasion of Ukraine featuring Kerry Buck, Andrew Rasiulis, Col (ret'd) Roderich Kiesewetter, and Col (ret'd) Ralph Thiele
This conversation is a recording from an event co-organized with the Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung Canada. Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard.
Participants Bio
Renée Filiatraut is a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/renee_filiatrault
Kerry Buck is a CGAI Fellow – https://ras-nsa.ca/expert/kerry-buck/
Andrew Rasiulis is a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/andrew_rasiulis
Col (ret'd) Roderich Kiesewetter is a member of the Bundestag – https://www.bundestag.de/abgeordnete/biografien/K/kiesewetter_roderich-857588
Col (ret'd) Ralph Thiele is the President of Eurodefense – http://c4iconf.com/node/318
Host bio:
Dave Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/staff#Perry
Recording Date: 26 Oct 2022
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Nov 24, 2022 • 37min
Energy Security Cubed: The Impact of Energy in the Federal Budget with Trevor Tombe
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including Enbridge Mainline rationing, Egyptian natural gas exports, and Finnish uranium supply chains.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Trevor Tombe about the recent Federal Fiscal Update and what it means for Canadian resource revenues.
Guest Bio:
- Trevor Tombe is Professor of Economics at the University of Calgary and a Research Fellow at The School of Public Policy. He recently co-authored "The Rise (And Fall?) of Inflation in Canada: A Detailed Analysis of Its Post-Pandemic Experience" with fellow UofC Economist Yu Chen: https://www.trevortombe.com/publication/inflation/
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Book recommendations:
"Mine!: How the Hidden Rules of Ownership Control Our Lives", by Michael A. Heller and James Salzman: https://www.amazon.ca/Mine-Hidden-Rules-Ownership-Control/dp/0385544723
Interview recording Date: November 10, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.


