The CGAI Podcast Network
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Episodes
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Nov 21, 2022 • 51min
The Global Exchange: The Past and Future of Hong Kong
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks with Lord Chris Patten about his book, the Hong Kong Diaries.
Participant's Bio:
Lord Christopher Patten is a British politician and was the last Governor of Hong Kong before its handover in 1997. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3965499.stm
Host biography
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat, and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read and Watch:
The Hong Kong Diaries by Chris Patten – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/724467/the-hong-kong-diaries-by-chris-patten/9780241560495
The Last Governor: Chris Patten and the Handover of Hong Kong by Jonathan Dimbleby – https://www.amazon.ca/Last-Governor-Chris-Patten-Handover/dp/1526701839
East and West by Chris Patten – https://www.amazon.ca/East-West-Chris-Patten/dp/0330373080
The World of Yesterday by Stefan Zweig – https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/the-world-of-yesterday/9780803226616-item.html?s_campaign=goo-DSA_Books&gclid=Cj0KCQiA4OybBhCzARIsAIcfn9mShcFld260Mj2C4hvEMn8FFRbzNCJaPxcZ7OOFh8LlgotqKKAQb1caAvoBEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
University Education by David Willett – https://global.oup.com/academic/product/a-university-education-9780198767268?cc=ca&lang=en&
A Thousand Small Sanities by Adam Gopnik – https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/a-thousand-small-sanities-the/9781541699342-item.html
Recording Date: 3 Nov 2022.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Nov 18, 2022 • 27min
Defence Deconstructed: Getting Capabilities to Allies
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Dave Perry speaks to the Director of the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, James Hursch.
This episode is an excerpt from our annual procurement conference, Putting Canadian Procurement on a War Footing, which took place on October 25th in Ottawa. This event was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program, our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Davie Shipyard; Silver Sponsors the Royal Embassy of Norway in Ottawa and Innovation Norway; Bronze sponsors ATCO Frontec, BAE Systems Canada, Bombardier, The Boeing Company, and PAL Aerospace.
Participant bio: James Hursch is the Director of the Defense Security Cooperation Agency – https://www.dsca.mil/about-us/leadership/mr-james-hursch
Host Bio: Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Recording Date: 25 Oct 2022
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Nov 17, 2022 • 37min
Energy Security Cubed: Quebec's Perspective on Energy Security with Yvan Cliche
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including North American critical mineral and battery supply chains, U.S.-China great power competition, and the prospect of an oil and gas emissions cap.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Yvan Cliche about Quebec's position on energy security in North America and globally.
Guest Bio:
- Yvan Cliche is a Fellow at the University of Montreal's CERIUM, and an author of "Jusqu'à plus soif: Pétrole-gaz-solaire-éolien : enjeux et conflits énergétiques", or "Until No Longer Thirsty: Oil-Gas-Solar-Wind Energy Issues and Conflicts"
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Book recommendations:
Jusqu'à plus soif: Pétrole-gaz-solaire-éolien : enjeux et conflits énergétiques, by Yvan Cliche: www.amazon.ca/Jusqu%C3%A0-plus-soif-P%C3%A9trole-gaz-solaire-%C3%A9olien-%C3%A9nerg%C3%A9tiques-ebook/dp/B0BGVS863G
From Left to Right: Saskatchewan's Political and Economic Transformation, by Dale Eisler: www.amazon.ca/Left-Right-Saskatchewans-Political-Transformation/dp/0889778647
We're Still Here: Pain and Politics in the Heart of America, by Jennifer Silva: www.amazon.ca/Were-Still-Here-Politics-America/dp/0190888040
Interview recording Date: November 8, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Nov 14, 2022 • 60min
The Global Exchange: The Freeland Doctrine - New Canadian Foreign Policy?
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to the Hon. John Manley, Peter Donolo, and Ian Brodie about the most recent articulation of Canadian foreign policy.
Participants’ Biographies:
The Honourable John Manley is the chair of CGAI’s Advisory Council – https://www.cgai.ca/advisory_council#Manley
Peter Donolo is a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/peter_donolo
Ian Brodie is CGAI’s Program Director – https://poli.ucalgary.ca/profiles/ian-r-brodie
Host biography
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat, and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read and Watch:
Benjamin Franklin: A Life by Walter Isaacson – https://www.amazon.ca/Benjamin-Franklin-American-Walter-Isaacson/dp/074325807X
Pivot or Pirouette? The 1993 Canadian General Election by Tom Flanagan – https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/P/bo186919198.html
Humankind: A Hopeful History by Rutger Bregman – https://www.littlebrown.com/titles/rutger-bregman/humankind/9780316418553/
Deep Water by Patricia Highsmith – https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393324556
The Abyss: Nuclear Crisis Cuba 1962 by Max Hastings – https://bookmarks.reviews/reviews/the-abyss-nuclear-crisis-cuba-1962/
Recording Date: 3 Nov 2022.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Nov 11, 2022 • 52min
Defence Deconstructed: Defence Procurement, A View From the Inside
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Dave Perry speaks to DND’s ADM (Materiel) Troy Crosby, PSPC’s ADM (Defence and Marine Procurement Branch) Simon Page, and ISED’s DG ITB Branch Demetrios Xenos about the procurement process.
This episode is an excerpt from our annual procurement conference, Putting Canadian Procurement on a War Footing, which took place on October 25th in Ottawa. This event was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program, our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Davie Shipyard; Silver Sponsors the Royal Embassy of Norway in Ottawa and Innovation Norway; Bronze sponsors ATCO Frontec, BAE Systems Canada, Bombardier, The Boeing Company, and PAL Aerospace.
Participants bios
Troy Crosby is Assistant Deputy Minister (Materiel) at the Department of National Defence
Simon Page is Assistant Deputy Minister (Defence and Marine Procurement) at Public Services and Procurement Canada
Demetrios Xenos is Director General, Industrial and Technological Benefits at Innovation, Science, and Economic Development Canada
Host Bio: Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Recording Date: 25 Oct 2022
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Nov 10, 2022 • 51min
Energy Security Cubed: Exporting Energy from Canadian Harbours with Andrew Rae
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including the Russian oil price cap, projections on climate change costs, and U.S. election results.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Andrew Rae about the challenges and opportunities of seaborne transport of Canadian energy.
Guest Bio:
- Andrew Rae is a former Harbour Pilot and former Vice President for the Atlantic region at the Canadian Marine Pilots' Association
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Interview recording Date: November 2, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Nov 7, 2022 • 46min
The Global Exchange: The Senate and American Politics
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Ira Shapiro about the decline of the U.S. Senate
Participant’s Biography:
Ira Shapiro is an U.S. author and a Senate expert – https://irashapiroauthor.com/about-the-author/
Host biography
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat, and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read and Watch:
Ira Shapiro’s book – https://irashapiroauthor.com/books/
Summer of 1787 by David Stewart – https://davidostewart.com/books/the-summer-of-1787/
Scorpions: The Battles and Triumphs of FDR's Great Supreme Court Justices by Noah Feldman – https://www.twelvebooks.com/titles/noah-feldman/scorpions/9780446575140/
For all mankind – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7772588/
Recording Date: 7 Sep 2022.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Nov 4, 2022 • 1h 28min
Defence Deconstructed: Implementing NORAD Modernization
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Dr. Andrea Charron speaks to Cheri Crosby, BGen Chris McKenna, BGen Patrice Sabourin, and Dr. Martin Tomkin about implementing NORAD Modernization
This episode is an excerpt from our annual procurement conference, Putting Canadian Procurement on a War Footing, which took place on October 25th in Ottawa. This event was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program, our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Davie Shipyard; Silver Sponsors the Royal Embassy of Norway in Ottawa and Innovation Norway; Bronze sponsors ATCO Frontec, BAE Systems Canada, Bombardier, The Boeing Company, and PAL Aerospace.
Participant bio
Cheri Crosby is the Department of National Defence’s Assistant Deputy Minister of Finance and Chief Financial Officer
BGen Chris McKenna is the Director General Air and Space Force Development
BGen Patrice Sabourin is Director General Digital Capabilities and Force Development
Dr. Martin Tomkin is the Senior Advisor to the Assistant DeputyMinister (Infrastructure and Environment)
Hosts Bios
Dr. Andrea Charron is a CGAI Fellow and a Professor at the University of Manitoba.
Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Recording Date: 25 Oct 2022
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Nov 3, 2022 • 42min
Energy Security Cubed: Considering Climate Economics, with Dennis McConaghy
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including Indonesia's battery mineral cartel concept, the Brazilian Presidential election, and the upcoming U.S. midterms.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Dennis McConaghy about his recent book Carbon Change, and the factors shaping climate economics in the IPCC process.
Guest Bio:
- Dennis McConaghy is a fellow at CGAI and a former senior executive at TC Energy
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
What is Dennis reading?
- Rubicon: The Last Years of the Roman Republic, by Tom Holland https://www.amazon.ca/Rubicon-Last-Years-Roman-Republic/dp/1400078970
Interview recording Date: October 31, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Oct 31, 2022 • 42min
The Global Exchange: Canada, A Player in the Indo-Pacific?
On this episode of the Global Exchange, Deanna Horton speaks to VAdm (ret’d) Darren Hawco, Jonathan Fried, and Trevor Kennedy about Canada’s role in the Indo-Pacific
This episode is an extract from our conference "After the War: What Kind of World for Canada?" which happened on May 10th, 2022. This event was made possible thanks to the support of our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Davie Shipyard, and of our Bronze conference sponsors, Enbridge and TD.
Participants' bios
VAdm (ret’d) Darren Hawco is a CGAI fellow and an Executive Advisor at Deloitte – https://www.cgai.ca/darren_hawco
Jonathan Fried is CGAI fellow and a retired career diplomat – https://www.cgai.ca/jonathan_fried
Trevor Kennedy is a CGAI Fellow and Vice President, Trade and International Policy at the Business Council of Canada – https://thebusinesscouncil.ca/staff/trevor-kennedy/
Hosts bios
Deanna Horton is a CGAI Fellow and a senior Fellow at the Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy – https://www.cgai.ca/deanna_horton
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat, and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Recording Date: 10 May 2022.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.


