

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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May 5, 2025 • 1h 7min
NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy
A.G. Sulzberger, the Publisher of The New York Times and a fourth-generation leader of the family legacy, dives into the challenges facing journalism today. He discusses the urgent issues of press freedom amid political turmoil and the evolving landscape of media consumption. Sulzberger also tackles the legal battle with OpenAI and Microsoft, emphasizing the need to protect intellectual property in an AI-driven world. With a shift towards a reader-supported model, he outlines how The Times is adapting to thrive amidst economic uncertainties.

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May 1, 2025 • 48min
What Trump has broken in 100 days
Adi Robertson, policy editor at The Verge, dives into the tumultuous first 100 days of Trump's second term. They discuss the chaotic impact of tariffs on global markets and how FCC policies affect free speech. The conversation explores the political fallout surrounding TikTok and the challenges of child safety legislation. AI’s disruptive rise and its transformative effects on businesses are also examined. Additionally, Robertson highlights the complexities of cryptocurrency trends, including the implications of Dogecoin amid political shifts.

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Apr 28, 2025 • 55min
Decoder Live: Fired FTC commissioners fight back
In a riveting discussion, former FTC commissioners Rebecca Slaughter and Alvaro Bedoya share their experiences being fired by the Trump administration and their ongoing legal battle to reclaim their positions. They delve into the complexities of antitrust laws, particularly in relation to tech giants like Amazon and Meta. The duo highlights the precarious balance of political power in regulatory bodies and the implications for consumer protection and privacy in the digital age, underscoring the need for integrity amid corporate influence.

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Apr 24, 2025 • 1h 8min
The case for breaking up Google has never been stronger
Jonathan Kanter, the former Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust, reveals insights from his tenure leading critical antitrust cases against Google. He discusses the growing urgency for the U.S. government to consider breaking up the tech giant to promote fair competition. Kanter elaborates on the legal complexities of Google's ad tech monopoly and the political influences impacting these cases. He also highlights the implications for democracy and innovation, conveying the message that the fight against Big Tech is far from over.

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Apr 21, 2025 • 1h 9min
Verizon’s consumer chief: Net neutrality ‘went literally nowhere’
Sowmyanarayan Sampath, CEO of Verizon’s consumer division, shares insights on the telecom landscape. He discusses the substantial investments in 5G and the value of competition versus net neutrality. Sampath reveals how regulatory changes impact Verizon's operations, highlighting the current scrutiny over DEI policies. He also addresses the strategic need for a three-year price lock amidst market fluctuations. With a focus on customer experience and future tech innovations, Sampath navigates the complex relationship between government regulations and telecommunications.

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Apr 17, 2025 • 1h 3min
How Trump’s tariffs actually work on the ground
Ryan Petersen, Founder and CEO of Flexport, shares insights on how Trump's trade policies are reshaping global logistics. He discusses the complexities of tariffs and their impact on the supply chain, emphasizing the need for businesses to adapt quickly to changing regulations. Petersen highlights a shift in manufacturing patterns towards countries like Vietnam and illustrates the vital role of technology in navigating these turbulent times. With tariffs affecting pricing and customs processes, he argues for a more agile approach to global trade management.

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Apr 14, 2025 • 1h 15min
Are prediction markets gambling? Robinhood's Vlad Tenev is betting not
In this engaging conversation, Vlad Tenev, Co-founder and CEO of Robinhood, discusses the company's evolution from democratizing stock trading to offering bank accounts and wealth management services. He dives into the controversial realm of prediction markets, contrasting them with traditional gambling and emphasizing their potential role in shaping the future of finance. Tenev also tackles the complexities of regulatory challenges and the balance between data and intuition in investment decision-making, highlighting the need for innovative approaches in a rapidly changing financial landscape.

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Apr 10, 2025 • 48min
Why DOGE is killing the agency that stops banks from ripping you off
Rohit Chopra, former head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, dives into the challenges facing consumer protection in a rapidly evolving financial landscape. He discusses how the rise of Dogecoin has complicated regulatory oversight and raises critical questions about the future of the CFPB. Chopra shares insights on the tension between tech influences and consumer rights, the implications of deregulation, and the widening gap in enforcement between large corporations and smaller entities. His reflections on leadership changes highlight the precarious state of financial protection today.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 1h 7min
UiPath CEO Daniel Dines on AI agents replacing our jobs
Daniel Dines, co-founder and CEO of UiPath, shares insights from his journey back to leadership in the realm of robotic process automation. He discusses the challenges of transitioning between CEOs and the pivotal role of AI in reshaping strategies. Dines emphasizes a customer-centric approach and the importance of interdepartmental collaboration during corporate transformations. The podcast also explores the integration of human cognition with automation, addressing how AI can enhance traditional business processes while maintaining essential human elements.

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Apr 3, 2025 • 56min
What AI anime memes tell us about the future of art and humanity
Brian Merchant, a journalist and the author of "Blood in the Machine," joins the discussion about the tumultuous relationship between AI and art. They dive into the viral AI-generated Studio Ghibli memes and their cultural implications. The conversation covers ethical concerns artists face, the challenges of creativity in a digital world, and how AI reshapes traditional art markets. Merchant critiques the power dynamics favoring tech corporations and highlights the ongoing debate over value, authenticity, and the future of human creativity.