

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Jun 9, 2025 • 1h 8min
Taskrabbit CEO Ania Smith isn’t afraid of AI robots replacing human labor
Ania Smith, CEO of TaskRabbit, leads a platform that connects users to skilled taskers for home services, significantly enhancing the gig economy. She discusses navigating the labor market amidst AI disruptions and the importance of empathy in leadership. Ania highlights TaskRabbit's unique edge in personalized service and skill-based task matching, delving into the challenges taskers face. She also touches on the integration of TaskRabbit with IKEA and how their partnership streamlines customer experiences while maintaining operational independence.

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Jun 5, 2025 • 53min
Why Runway CEO Cris Valenzuela thinks AI filmmaking is the future
Cris Valenzuela, CEO and co-founder of Runway, an avant-garde AI video generation platform, dives deep into the transformative potential of AI in filmmaking. He discusses how AI can democratize storytelling, making production more accessible while navigating the murky waters of copyright law. Valenzuela emphasizes the need for creativity and collaboration in tech advancements and explores partnerships with entertainment giants. The conversation touches on the evolving role of traditional media and the importance of adapting to new technological landscapes.

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Jun 2, 2025 • 1h 14min
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky wants to build the everything app
Brian Chesky, Co-founder and CEO of Airbnb, returns to share his vision of transforming the platform into an all-encompassing service app. He discusses the ambitious redesign of the Airbnb app, integrating AI to enhance user experience and community-building. Chesky reflects on the shift from rentals to authentic travel experiences while emphasizing innovative design and organizational structure that foster creativity. He tackles the role of technology in navigating disruptions in the travel industry and the evolving nature of human-computer interaction.

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May 29, 2025 • 49min
How private equity kills companies and communities
Megan Greenwell, a journalist and author of 'Bad Company: Private Equity and the Death of the American Dream', delves into the troubling world of private equity. She discusses her experiences at Deadspin and the destructive corporate takeover that altered its mission. The conversation highlights the pervasive impact of private equity on industries like healthcare and retail, revealing how profit-driven motives can devastate communities and services. Greenwell also sheds light on grassroots movements challenging private equity's dominance and calls for accountability.

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May 27, 2025 • 46min
Google CEO Sundar Pichai on the next phase of AI
Sundar Pichai, CEO of Alphabet and Google, is at the helm of AI innovation, driving advancements that are reshaping the web. He discusses the transformative impact of AI on search and user experiences, likening it to the rise of electricity. Pichai delves into the future of augmented reality and AI-powered tools, exploring how they will revolutionize content creation and online interactions. The conversation also touches on the challenges posed by antitrust issues and the necessity for businesses to adapt to an AI-driven landscape.

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May 22, 2025 • 1h 3min
Why Uber's CEO is okay with reinventing the bus
Dara Khosrowshahi, CEO of Uber, shares his vision for the future of urban mobility. He discusses new budget-friendly shared ride options that promise to revolutionize public transport. Khosrowshahi dives into the role of AI in enhancing user experience and operational efficiency. He also reflects on evolving consumer attitudes towards transportation and the challenges of managing driver satisfaction. The conversation highlights how Uber plans to adapt to changes in technology and societal behaviors while rethinking traditional notions of car ownership.

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May 19, 2025 • 1h 11min
Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott on how AI can save the web, not destroy it
Kevin Scott, Microsoft’s Chief Technology Officer, discusses the future of search and AI's transformative role. He shares insights on Microsoft's open-source tool, which enhances website interactivity through natural language search. Scott delves into the concept of the 'agentic web,' emphasizing the importance of user autonomy amid AI integration. He also explores how AI can impact creative industries, addressing concerns about authorship and copyright while advocating for a more equitable web for creators and consumers.

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May 15, 2025 • 1h 14min
Workday's new product head hopes he can make you like Workday
Gerrit Kazmaier, the new President of Product and Technology at Workday, dives into the complexities of enterprise software. He discusses why these systems frustrate users and suggests a more interconnected, collaborative approach. The conversation delves into the transformative potential of AI in the workplace, emphasizing its role in improving user experiences and addressing issues like data quality. Kazmaier candidly addresses the disconnect between executives and end users, advocating for a future where enterprise software becomes more intuitive and effective.

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May 12, 2025 • 1h 19min
Did Apple get too big for its own good?
John Gruber, the proprietor of Daring Fireball, joins to delve into Apple's current struggles and its mounting legal challenges. They explore the critical ruling in the Epic vs. Apple case, highlighting developer frustrations over perceived greed. Gruber discusses Apple's strategic pivot towards services revenue and the implications of its App Store practices, alongside the complexities of its global supply chain. The conversation raises questions about the company's future as it navigates regulatory pressures and strained relationships with developers.

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May 8, 2025 • 1h 6min
Reuters is ready to stand up for the press — and embrace AI
In this discussion, Paul Bascobert, President of Reuters and a veteran in global news, dives into how the organization adapts in the AI-driven media landscape. He explores the challenges of maintaining journalistic integrity amidst the rise of misinformation. Bascobert highlights strategies for engaging younger audiences, transitioning to subscription models, and embracing AI innovations to enhance reporting. With a rich history since 1851, he emphasizes Reuters' commitment to delivering fact-based news while navigating today's rapidly evolving digital environment.