

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Apr 17, 2025 • 1h 3min
How Trump’s tariffs actually work on the ground
Ryan Petersen, Founder and CEO of Flexport, shares insights on how Trump's trade policies are reshaping global logistics. He discusses the complexities of tariffs and their impact on the supply chain, emphasizing the need for businesses to adapt quickly to changing regulations. Petersen highlights a shift in manufacturing patterns towards countries like Vietnam and illustrates the vital role of technology in navigating these turbulent times. With tariffs affecting pricing and customs processes, he argues for a more agile approach to global trade management.

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Apr 14, 2025 • 1h 15min
Are prediction markets gambling? Robinhood's Vlad Tenev is betting not
In this engaging conversation, Vlad Tenev, Co-founder and CEO of Robinhood, discusses the company's evolution from democratizing stock trading to offering bank accounts and wealth management services. He dives into the controversial realm of prediction markets, contrasting them with traditional gambling and emphasizing their potential role in shaping the future of finance. Tenev also tackles the complexities of regulatory challenges and the balance between data and intuition in investment decision-making, highlighting the need for innovative approaches in a rapidly changing financial landscape.

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Apr 10, 2025 • 48min
Why DOGE is killing the agency that stops banks from ripping you off
Rohit Chopra, former head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, dives into the challenges facing consumer protection in a rapidly evolving financial landscape. He discusses how the rise of Dogecoin has complicated regulatory oversight and raises critical questions about the future of the CFPB. Chopra shares insights on the tension between tech influences and consumer rights, the implications of deregulation, and the widening gap in enforcement between large corporations and smaller entities. His reflections on leadership changes highlight the precarious state of financial protection today.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 1h 7min
UiPath CEO Daniel Dines on AI agents replacing our jobs
Daniel Dines, co-founder and CEO of UiPath, shares insights from his journey back to leadership in the realm of robotic process automation. He discusses the challenges of transitioning between CEOs and the pivotal role of AI in reshaping strategies. Dines emphasizes a customer-centric approach and the importance of interdepartmental collaboration during corporate transformations. The podcast also explores the integration of human cognition with automation, addressing how AI can enhance traditional business processes while maintaining essential human elements.

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Apr 3, 2025 • 56min
What AI anime memes tell us about the future of art and humanity
Brian Merchant, a journalist and the author of "Blood in the Machine," joins the discussion about the tumultuous relationship between AI and art. They dive into the viral AI-generated Studio Ghibli memes and their cultural implications. The conversation covers ethical concerns artists face, the challenges of creativity in a digital world, and how AI reshapes traditional art markets. Merchant critiques the power dynamics favoring tech corporations and highlights the ongoing debate over value, authenticity, and the future of human creativity.

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Mar 31, 2025 • 1h 10min
How Unity CEO Matt Bromberg stopped the ‘war’ against its customers
Matt Bromberg, CEO of Unity, brings fresh insights after taking the helm during a turbulent time. He discusses Unity's transformation from being ‘at war’ with its customers to embracing open dialogue and restoring trust by scrapping a controversial runtime fee. Bromberg explores the future of gaming and the importance of live services, while delving into the challenges and potential of augmented reality technology. He emphasizes a culture shift within Unity aimed at fostering better relationships with developers amidst the rapidly evolving gaming landscape.

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Mar 27, 2025 • 46min
Capitalism vs. the bird flu
Science journalist Lauren Leffer joins the discussion, bringing her expertise on bird flu and its implications. They explore the 'forever war' against this virus, drawing alarming parallels with the COVID-19 pandemic. Topics include the escalating pressures on egg prices, the challenges farmers face in reporting sick animals, and the complexities of vaccine hesitancy amid public trust issues. The conversation highlights the need for better collaboration between health authorities and farmers to enhance biosecurity and manage this unpredictable outbreak.

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Mar 24, 2025 • 1h 7min
Splice CEO Kakul Srivastava on why push-button AI is “insulting” to musicians
Kakul Srivastava, CEO of Splice, shares insights on the intersection of technology and music creation. She discusses how Splice empowers musicians with innovative tools while emphasizing the importance of human creativity amid AI advancements. Kakul explains the tension between copyright issues and innovation, highlighting the challenges artists face with automated solutions. The conversation also covers the emotional connections music fosters and the necessity of maintaining artistic integrity as AI reshapes the industry.

236 snips
Mar 20, 2025 • 47min
The movement to take down Tesla
Ed Niedermeyer, author of "Ludicrous" and host of the Atomicast, dives deep into the Tesla Takedown protest movement. He discusses how public dissatisfaction with Elon Musk is impacting Tesla, with falling stock prices and registrations. The conversation critiques the gap between Tesla’s hype and reality, highlighting its identity crisis amid protests. Niedermeyer also explores how these movements affect investor perceptions and the challenges Tesla faces in maintaining its position in the electric vehicle market.

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Mar 17, 2025 • 1h 7min
How Trump's tariff chaos is already changing global trade
Evan Smith, Co-founder and CEO of Altana, discusses his vision of a transforming global trade landscape. He explains how Trump's tariff policies are reshaping supply chains, pointing out the chaotic repercussions for businesses worldwide. The conversation highlights the complex U.S.-China relations and the evolution of manufacturing due to globalization. Smith emphasizes the necessity of advanced technologies, like AI, to navigate new trade dynamics and adapt to ongoing geopolitical tensions. It's a deep dive into the future of international commerce.