

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Jul 26, 2022 • 1h 7min
Rent the Runway CEO Jennifer Hyman thinks clothing rental is inflation-proof
Jennifer Hyman, Co-founder and CEO of Rent the Runway, shares her insights on the clothing rental industry. She discusses the company's recovery from the pandemic, highlighting a shift in consumer spending towards experiences. Hyman explains the complexities of managing high-risk logistics in fashion rentals, from sourcing to cleaning. She also emphasizes how data analytics drive sustainability efforts and influence durable clothing design. As wedding season picks up, Rent the Runway positions itself to cater to a new wave of fashion needs.

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Jul 19, 2022 • 1h 19min
Is the metaverse going to suck? A conversation with Matthew Ball
Matthew Ball, author of "The Metaverse: And How It Will Revolutionize Everything," delves into the complexities of the metaverse and its implications for our digital future. He explores what the metaverse truly entails beyond just VR and highlights the obstacles companies face in establishing this new frontier. Discussions include the economic challenges of creating digital scarcity, the necessity of standardization, and the push for interoperability across platforms. Ball also analyzes how big players, like Meta and Amazon, are shaping this evolving landscape and the regulatory hurdles that remain.

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Jul 14, 2022 • 29min
Land of the Giants: Facebook gets a facelift
Explore the groundbreaking launch of Facebook's News Feed, a feature that transformed online interaction, but also sparked user privacy concerns. Delve into Mark Zuckerberg's controversial vision for connectivity and the metaverse, set against the backdrop of ongoing societal challenges. Discover the tension between innovation and user trust as the platform evolved, and hear about the early experiences of female engineers who shaped its direction. This discussion highlights the complex relationship between technology and its impact on society.

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Jul 4, 2022 • 1h 15min
How arson led to a culture reboot at Traeger, with CEO Jeremy Andrus
In a captivating discussion, Jeremy Andrus, CEO of Traeger Grills, shares his unique journey from tech to culinary leader. He reveals how a disastrous arson incident sparked a culture reboot that tenfold increased revenue. Topics include Traeger's innovative wood pellet grills, the significance of community engagement, and navigating supply chain challenges. Jeremy discusses the shift toward IoT products and ambitious goals of reaching a billion dollars in revenue, showcasing the brand's resilience and commitment to enhancing the cooking experience.

Jun 29, 2022 • 1h 11min
TSA’s chief innovation officer on surveillance, security lines, and surrendering to PreCheck
Dan McCoy, TSA's chief innovation officer, dives into the transformation of airport security post-9/11. He discusses how innovations like TSA PreCheck have changed the travel experience and raised questions about privacy versus convenience. The conversation highlights the TSA's ongoing efforts to integrate technology, including biometrics, while balancing public trust and security. McCoy also emphasizes the importance of collaboration and innovation in enhancing passenger safety without compromising civil liberties.

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Jun 21, 2022 • 1h 6min
How Mercedes-Benz CEO Ola Källenius is refocusing for an electric future
Ola Källenius, the CEO of Mercedes-Benz, has transformed the luxury brand into a tech-focused leader in electric vehicles since taking the helm in 2019. He discusses the strategic shift away from conglomerate mergers to a more nimble, innovative approach. Källenius emphasizes how cars are now 'digital products' and reveals insights on the new EQS and EQE models. He also addresses the competitive landscape with rising gas prices and the importance of EV infrastructure, all while balancing luxury with cutting-edge technology.

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Jun 14, 2022 • 1h 5min
How fandom built the internet as we know it, with Kaitlyn Tiffany
Kaitlyn Tiffany, a staff writer at The Atlantic and author of "Everything I Need I Get From You: How Fangirls Created the Internet," dives into the powerful influence of fandom on online culture. She discusses how One Direction fans transformed digital spaces, highlighting both the joy and toxicity present in fan communities. Tiffany also explores the unique experiences of female fans and how they challenge stereotypes, while examining the political ramifications of fandom in today's society. It's a deep look at how fandom shapes our digital landscape.

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Jun 6, 2022 • 1h 5min
What unions could mean for Apple with Zoe Schiffer
In this engaging discussion, Verge labor reporter Zoe Schiffer delves into the ongoing unionization efforts among Apple retail employees. Known for her expertise in workplace dynamics, Schiffer provides insights into the challenges these workers face regarding pay and conditions. The conversation covers the successful union formation in Atlanta and contrasts the experiences of corporate and retail staff. Schiffer also examines the broader implications of unionizing in tech, emphasizing the importance of worker solidarity as employees push for better representation and conditions amidst corporate resistance.

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May 24, 2022 • 1h 8min
How Ukraine’s wide use of cryptocurrency is playing out during the war
Michael Chobanian, the President of the Blockchain Association of Ukraine and founder of the Kuna Exchange, shares insights on cryptocurrency's pivotal role in Ukraine during wartime. He discusses the Ukrainian government's pioneering efforts in crypto donations, which have exceeded $60 million, and the recent legalization of digital assets. Chobanian highlights the decline in crypto transactions as citizens prioritize survival, while stressing the need for decentralized finance as a stable alternative in times of economic instability and mistrust in traditional banking.

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May 17, 2022 • 1h 14min
The videos that don’t work on YouTube and the future of the creator business, with Nebula CEO Dave Wiskus
In this engaging discussion, Dave Wiskus, CEO of Standard and Nebula, delves into the challenges YouTubers face, including demonetization and algorithm changes. He passionately advocates for sustainable creator businesses and critiques emerging trends like NFTs, asserting they lack real-world relevance. Wiskus highlights Nebula as a supportive platform fostering creator collaboration and revenue-sharing. The conversation also navigates the importance of trust within the creator economy, emphasizing the need for creators to retain power in their negotiations and relationships.