
Decoder with Nilay Patel
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
Latest episodes

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Aug 8, 2023 • 1h 9min
There's no AI without the cloud, says AWS CEO Adam Selipsky
In this conversation, Adam Selipsky, CEO of AWS, shares insights from nearly two decades at the forefront of cloud computing. He discusses how AWS evolved from a risky experiment to a powerhouse, currently generating over $22 billion in sales. Selipsky highlights challenges in AI adoption, competition with industry giants, and the importance of understanding customer needs. He delves into the ethical and sustainability issues tied to AI hardware and emphasizes AWS's commitment to renewable energy. The future potential for cloud growth remains vast.

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Jul 25, 2023 • 1h 21min
Rewind: Can Mastodon seize the moment from Twitter?
Join Eugen Rochko, the founder of Mastodon, a pioneer in decentralized social media, and David Pierce, Verge editor-at-large, as they dissect the changing landscape of online communication. They explore how ActivityPub technology could redefine social media interactions and the competition Mastodon faces from upcoming platforms like Meta's Threads. The discussion touches on community governance, the tension between venture capital and open-source values, and the unique challenges of content moderation in decentralized networks.

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Jul 18, 2023 • 1h 4min
Why would anyone make a website in 2023? Squarespace CEO Anthony Casalena has some ideas
In this engaging discussion, Anthony Casalena, the founder and CEO of Squarespace, delves into the ever-evolving web landscape of 2023. He shares insights on how the significance of websites has shifted amidst social media's dominance and the rise of AI. Anthony emphasizes the importance of owning digital real estate and adapting strategies for content creators. He also explores Squarespace's evolution into a multifaceted brand and the implications of their recent acquisition of Google's domains business. Plus, the unexpected topic of pressure washers adds a quirky twist!

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Jul 10, 2023 • 1h 2min
Inside Google’s big AI shuffle — and how it plans to stay competitive, with Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis
Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind, discusses the monumental merger of Google Brain and DeepMind, aiming for faster AI innovation in a competitive landscape. He delves into the cultural clashes from this unification and how it influences AI strategy. Hassabis also explores the future of AI, envisioning enhanced personal assistants and emphasizing the importance of ethical practices in AI development. He navigates the challenges posed by open-source models, advocating for responsible collaboration to harness AI's potential across industries.

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Jun 27, 2023 • 54min
Why CEO David Baszucki is ready for Roblox to grow up
In this engaging discussion, Alex Heath chats with David Baszucki, the visionary CEO of Roblox, about the platform's bold transition to attract a more mature audience. He reveals plans for 17+ experiences and innovative AI world-building tools. With Roblox already serving 66 million users, they delve into its evolution as a multi-dimensional social space, emphasizing the balance between user safety and creative freedom. Additionally, Baszucki discusses new advertising strategies that aim to enhance user engagement while fostering a thriving environment for developers.

Jun 21, 2023 • 50min
Gary Vaynerchuk is ‘petrified’ of Slack
Gary Vaynerchuk, a serial entrepreneur and founder of VaynerX, dives into the complex world of digital media. He shares his journey from a family liquor store to building a vast empire, emphasizing the importance of positive workplace culture and mentorship. Vaynerchuk discusses the challenges of digital communication, highlighting tone and empathy in messaging. He explores the evolving nature of personal branding, the pressures faced by influencers, and the necessity of adapting to new platforms like TikTok in a rapidly changing digital landscape.

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Jun 13, 2023 • 1h 1min
Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys”R”Us. Here’s why that matters.
Brendan Ballou, a federal prosecutor and author of "Plunder: Private Equity’s Plan to Pillage America," explores the pervasive influence of private equity in the American economy. He dives into how these firms employ aggressive cost-cutting strategies that can devastate markets and consumer welfare. Ballou reveals the harmful implications of financial maneuvers like sale leasebacks, highlighting issues in the nursing home sector. He discusses the complexities of holding these firms accountable and the push for reforms amid their growing dominance.

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Jun 6, 2023 • 1h 6min
SiriusXM’s 360 strategy with CEO Jennifer Witz
In this chat, Jennifer Witz, CEO of SiriusXM, shares her insights on transforming satellite radio into a multifaceted audio giant. She discusses the challenges of integrating new tech in cars and competing against streaming services. Witz emphasizes the importance of personalized content via the 360L platform and the intricacies of navigating the podcasting landscape. The conversation also touches on advertising strategies, the collaboration with Liberty Media, and the evolving innovations in in-car media, especially with the rise of electric vehicles.

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May 23, 2023 • 1h 7min
Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott on AI copilots, disagreeing with OpenAI, and Sydney making a comeback
Kevin Scott, Microsoft's CTO and EVP of AI, shares insights on the company's innovative Copilots, revolutionizing user interactions across applications. He discusses the strategic partnership with OpenAI, their contrasting approaches, and how Microsoft manages its AI development. The conversation also touches on ethical considerations and safeguards in deploying AI, the challenges of training AI on internet data, and the importance of collaboration over competition in the tech landscape. Plus, he recounts a quirky incident involving Bing's AI and a New York Times columnist.

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May 16, 2023 • 50min
Recode Media: Inside the AI Gold Rush
Dror Berman, a venture capitalist at Innovation Endeavors and co-founder with Eric Schmidt, discusses the AI gold rush in Silicon Valley. He dives into the challenges startups face against tech giants. The conversation highlights how AI is transforming coding, raising ethical concerns, and impacting job markets. Berman also examines venture capitalists' adaptation to the AI surge and the regulatory implications for the industry. The excitement mirrors past tech booms, but the stakes and consequences for future innovations are much higher.