
Practical Wisdom for Leaders with Scott J. Allen, Ph.D.
Practical Wisdom for Leaders is your fast-paced, forward-thinking guide to leadership. Join host Scott J. Allen as he engages with remarkable guests—from former world leaders and nonprofit innovators to renowned professors, CEOs, and authors. Each episode offers timely insights and actionable tips designed to help you lead with impact, grow personally and professionally, and make a meaningful difference in your corner of the world.
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Jul 3, 2021 • 51min
Dr. Joanne Ciulla - The Power of Resentment
Send us a textDr. Joanne Ciulla is a professor and Director of the Institute for Ethical Leadership at Rutgers University. She is a pioneer in the field of leadership ethics. Before joining Rutgers, she held the Coston Family Chair in Leadership and Ethics at the Jepson School of Leadership Studies (University of Richmond), where she was a founding faculty member of the first degree-granting liberal arts school of leadership studies in the world. She has held academic appointments at Harvard Business School, The Wharton School, LaSalle University, and numerous visiting appointments outside the U.S. She sits on the editorial boards of The Business Ethics Quarterly and The Leadership Quarterly.Professor Ciulla is the recipient of the Lifetime Achievement Award for Outstanding Contribution to Scholarship in Business Ethics from the Society for Business Ethics, the Legacy Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association, The Eminent Scholar Award from the Network of Leadership Scholars in the Academy of Management, The Lifetime Achievement Award for Service from the Society for Business Ethics, The Master Teacher Award from The Wheatley Institution and the Society for Business Ethics, The Outstanding Faculty Award from the Virginia State Council of Higher Education, and The Distinguished Educator Award from the University of Richmond.Connecting with Dr. CiullaDr. Ciulla's webpage at Rutgers University Select Publications by Dr. CiullaDr. Joanne Ciulla at Google ScholarLeadership and the Power of ResentmentSearching for Mandela: The insights of biographical researchThe Working Life: The Promise of Betrayal of Modern WorkEthics: The Heart of LeadershipQuotes From This EpisodePhilosopher Max Scheler "describes what he calls the 'arriviste.' And he's really describing Hitler...he describes the social phenomena that allow for leaders like that to emerge and use resentment as a way of gaining power.""If you think of what leaders do, they're people who take responsibility for something...it's fundamental for moral accountability."(Nelson Mandela wrote) 'they don't see me. They see me as a saint. But I'm only a saint who is a sinner who keeps on trying.' And so I think the same could be said of som♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

Jun 26, 2021 • 27min
Christie Navarro - 2021 National Leadership Symposium - Disruption by Design: Co-Creating Our Approach to Leadership Education
Send us a textChristie Navarro serves as the Director of the Center for Leadership Learning (CLL) at the University of California, Davis. She has been a part of the UC Davis community for 16 years, with 15 of those years leading the CLL. Prior to her tenure at UC Davis, Christie served as the California state representative for the college admission testing organization ACT, as a regional outreach coordinator for UC Merced Early Academic Outreach Program, and as a case manager for Court Appointed Special Advocates (CASA) of Tulare County. Christie earned her Bachelor of Science in Psychology and Master of Arts in Higher Educational Leadership from California State University, Sacramento. As a leadership educator, Christie infuses identity development, inclusivity, and social justice, and change into her teachings and is passionate about supporting students on their leadership journey. Christie serves as a co-chair of the National Leadership Symposium (NLS).About the 2021 National Leadership Symposium Visit the NLS Website to learn more!About the 2021 NLS SymposiumDisruption by Design: Co-Creating Our Approach to Leadership EducationMonday, July 12 – Wednesday, July 14, 2021 - 12 pm-5 pm (EST)Registration Cost= $225.00Graduate student rate = $99 (regardless of membership or institution)Quotes From This Episode"The National Leadership Symposium is not a conference... it is a small cohort of leadership educators from all around the nation that come together for an intensive learning experience.""This is an area I'm very passionate about: bringing diverse voices to the table in our field. I think that there's been a lack of opportunity for scholars from different backgrounds and different lived experiences, especially when it's trying to advance our conversations around what leadership is.""With the pandemic and the long-needed conversation around equity, racial justice, and social justice...we can't go back to what we were doing in 2019. And this is me just humbly trying to put that idea out there for our field. How are we going to adjust, shift, and change to ensure that we are representing, hearing, and inviting all communities to the table?"Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeThe Purpose of Power: How We Come Together When We Fall Apart by Alicia Garza Engaging in the Leadership Process: Identity, Capacity, and Efficacy for College Students by Kathy Guthrie, Cameron C. Beatty, and Erica R. Wiborg About The International Leadership Association (ILA)♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

Jun 16, 2021 • 40min
Dr. Brent Cusher and Dr. Mark Menaldo - Your Invitation to the Conversation
Send us a textBrent Cusher, Ph.D., is an Associate Professor in the Department of Leadership and American Studies at Christopher Newport University, where he teaches courses in the Leadership Studies and Honors programs. His teaching and research interests are on the intersection of leadership and the history of political philosophy, specifically focusing on models of leadership in classical Greek philosophy. His work can be found in the Journal of Politics, the Journal of Leadership Education, Law, Culture, and the Humanities, and The Political Science Reviewer. He has held appointments at Carleton College, Rhodes College, and the University of Alaska (Anchorage). He and his wife live in Newport News, VA with their children, Violet, Zooey, and Axel.Mark A. Menaldo, Ph.D., is the Department Head and Associate Professor of Liberal Studies. He started at Texas A&M-Commerce in 2017 after spending seven years at Texas A&M International University. He attended Colorado College as an undergraduate student, and it was here that Menaldo discovered the art of close reading and the power of interdisciplinary scholarship. He took these skills with him to Michigan State University where he earned his Ph.D. in Political Science. When he is not teaching, he can usually be found drinking coffee at the local cafe, reading a book, or talking to friends. He and his wife are the proud parents of three children, Oliver, Henry, and Ava. They live in Greenville, TX.Book - Philosophy and Leadership: Three Classical Models and CasesConnecting with Mark and BrentBrent Cusher Mark MenaldoQuotes From This Episode"We see philosophy as one big conversation amongst individuals across time. What we want to do is invite people to that conversation.""I don't mind putting all of my cards on the table in saying that I think Plato is the most interesting philosopher that there was.""I became a philosophy student because I read the Republic. There's something transhistorical about the way he invites you to the conversation.""I think if you read our book, and are at the same time steeped in leadership studies literature - and this is a bold claim - you're going to start to understand why Leadership Studies sounds a little cacophonous."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodePlato: the RepublicAristotle: The Nicomachean EthicsMachiavelli: The PrinceNetflix: Inside Bill's Brain♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

Jun 13, 2021 • 43min
Dr. Gill Hickman - Charisma of Purpose
Send us a textAs one of the inaugural faculty members of the Jepson School of Leadership Studies at the University of Richmond, one of the first institutions in the world with a multidisciplinary faculty devoted to the study of leadership, Dr. Gill Hickman joined forces with her colleagues to build a leadership studies program from the ground up. She is a former board member of the International Leadership Association and the recipient of several awards, including the ILA's Leadership Legacy Lifetime Achievement Award and the University of Richmond's Distinguished Educator Award. She has authored many publications including Leading Organizations: Perspectives for a New Era and Leading Change in Multiple Contexts, Invisible Leadership, and her most recent book, When Leaders Face Personal Crisis: The Human Side of Leadership. Connecting with GillOn LinkedInWebsiteQuotes From This Episode"As soon as they said the buses were integrated...I thought 'I'm going to try this'...and I got on with a friend and we sat on the front seat. And people started talking about us and saying we didn't belong there. And literally, a woman hit me with her umbrella and told me to move and get off. And I did not do it.""The first day they said the lunch counters were integrated in Birmingham (unbeknownst to my parents) I decided, I'm going to sit down at the lunch counter.""Georgia Sorenson and I were at the Kellogg Leadership Studies project and we were all talking about leadership with James McGregor Burns, and all the other scholars, and people were arguing about the leader and what the role of the leader is, and on and on... Georgia and I looked at each other and said, 'we're kind of sick of this argument. We're all focused on the leader. What about, what about everybody else? What about people being inspired because they really believe in what they're doing?' And that's that was the start of our conversation about the common purpose as the leader, in other words, invisible leadership."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeArticle: Invisible LeadershipBook: ♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

Jun 6, 2021 • 31min
David Rae - Figure it Out
Send us a textDavid Rae is the President & Co-Founder of 503 Media & Events - an organization that believes in moments, not things. The 503 team is comprised of creative technologists and plays in the digital, strategy, brand content, and experiential space. David is also the Curator of TEDxPortland which is focused on connecting thinkers and doers committed to "ideas worth spreading" in the Rose City. Connecting with David503 Media & Events WebsiteTEDxPortland WebsiteLinkedIn: David RaeQuotes From This Episode"I’m a creative at heart. I love art. I love experience. I love storytelling. And a drug for me is creating indelible moments for people to enjoy. For people to collect moments and not things. So I’ve always had a passion for putting people in the room and creating an arena or vessel in which people can connect and get to the core of meaningful relationships. That’s just, that’s the juice for me.""We're in this fun office space. And I have pennants all over in the rafters of my office...and one of the pennants is 'figure it out.' So I look at 'figure it out' every day. I look at 'let it go.' I look at 'worry will trap you.' I look right above me is 'give a damn.' I mean, I just need those kinds of motivational quips and quotes to keep me trucking.""I wake up in the morning and ask these questions of myself: 1) Does it serve the team? 2) Does it serve the business? 3) Does it serve the community? and 4) What can I personally do better to help in each of those?""TEDxPortland is a lightning bolt of joy and ideas and inspiration for this town. The city has embraced it from day one."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeeCornell - Diversity & Inclusion certificateGreenlights by Matthew McConaugheyMasterclassAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals with a keen interest in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Today, ILA is the largest worldwide community committed to leadership scholarship, development, and practice. Connect with Your Host, Scott AllenScott's other Podcast - The Captovation Podcast♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

May 31, 2021 • 49min
Dr. Bruce Avolio - The Holy Grail of Leadership Development
Send us a textDr. Bruce Avolio has published 12 books and over 150 articles on leadership and related areas. In 2012, Bruce was identified as being in the top 25 management scholars over the last 50 years regarding scholarly citations of his work. In 2017, Bruce was recognized as being among the top 70 most highly cited researchers in the United States in Economics and Business and among the top 3,000 across all sciences around the globe (Thompson Reuters). He was listed this past year at the #18 spot on the all-time most highly cited industrial and organizational psychology researchers over the last 100 years. Dr. Avolio has consulted with hundreds of organizations around the globe in the design and delivery of transformative leadership development systems. Bruce was named a Fellow of the American Psychological Society, Academy of Management, American Psychological Association, Society for Industrial & Organizational Psychology, and Gerontological Society. His latest book is Organizational Transformation: How to Achieve it One Person at a Time. Learn More About Bruce's WorkBruce Avolio at Google ScholarBook: Full Range Leadership DevelopmentBook: Leadership Development in Balance: Born/MadeQuotes From This Episode"What I would consider, maybe still the holy grail, around leadership development is our perspective-taking capacity." "So if I were to create what I call a "gamulation," for engaging people in their own development, what would that look like? It would be a series of scenarios and challenges."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeBook: Immunity to Change by Kegan and LaheyBook: In Over Our Heads by Robert KeganBook: The Map by Eigel and KuhnertBook: Learning as Transformation by Jac♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

May 24, 2021 • 46min
Dr. Denny Roberts - Translator/Integrator
Send us a text"I’m very proud and satisfied that I’ve walked the path of that middle ground. Which is both being a practitioner as well as a scholar."Dennis C. Roberts is an independent consultant, speaker, and author. He last served as Assistant Vice President of Education for Qatar Foundation (QF). During his seven years with QF, he worked with Qatari and expatriate colleagues to create the student development and support services for its branch universities at Education City in Doha, Qatar. Before working abroad, he was Associate Vice President of Student Affairs at Miami University. He is past president of the American College Personnel Association (ACPA). He has been a member and presenter at the National Association of Student Personnel Administrators and the International Leadership Association. He has authored six books and over 50 book chapters and other articles on student affairs, student learning, and leadership.Learn More About Denny's WorkBook: Student Leadership Programs in Higher Education (1981)Book: Deeper Learning in Leadership: Helping College Students Find the Potential WithinBlog: Pursuing Leadership by DennyBlog: Global Student AffairsSocial Media: Denny on TwitterQuotes from This Episode"I think a characteristic of people who are more inclined to really engage in leadership is curiosity...it’s not a big word. It’s not complicated, but it’s simply being curious about your surroundings, about other people, and about other cultures.""A translator and integrator. That’s who I’ve always been.""Musicians are a fantastic example of complicated leadership because you’re dealing with trying to create a voice so that others will understand. You’re trying to bring disparate instruments and perspectives together. You’re trying to push the envelope without going so far that you turn people off."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeSAP Insights - Blank CanvasSAP Insights - The PassionatesChicago Symphony OrchestraAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals with a keen interest in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Today, ILA is the largest worldwide community committed to leadership scholarship, development, and practice. Connect with Your Ho♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

May 15, 2021 • 59min
Gary Lloyd - Gardeners Not Mechanics
Send us a textGary Lloyd has led organizational change initiatives for nearly thirty years. Over the last decade, he has also helped professionals make personal and career changes in his role as a member of Warwick Business School's Executive Coaching Panel and as a steering committee member for its mentoring program. He spent most of his career in banking and financial markets. However, through his consulting and coaching work, he has also worked with clients in manufacturing, construction, logistics, food processing, and IT services.Learn More About Gary's WorkBook: Gardeners Not Mechanics: How to cultivate change at workWebsite: Gardeners Not MechanicsQuotes From Gary's Book"The world of work is an ecosystem of interdependent organisations, groups, and individuals. So, if you want to make a sustainable change at work, you are more likely to succeed if you approach your change as a gardener, not a mechanic.""Mechanics rely on predictability. They assume that the same inputs produce the same outputs, time after time. A car, for example, will perform as predicted on a tarmac road.""Gardeners know that their environment is unpredictable, with much of it outside their control. Gardeners, therefore, take small steps towards a bigger goal. They experiment to find out what works and what doesn't and continually adjust to what they find out."Resources Mentioned In This EpisodeBooks: Noise: A Flaw in Human Judgment & Thinking Fast & Slow Books: How Emotions Are Made & Seven and a Half Lessons About the Brain Book: Livewired Book: Think Again Podcast: SidewaysDocumentary: The Mole AgentAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals with a keen interest in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Today, ILA is the largest worldwide community committed to leadership scholarship, development, and practice. Connect with Your Host, Scott AllenScott's other Podcast - The Captovation PodcastLinkedInWebsite♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

May 7, 2021 • 38min
Dr. Dennis Tourish - Torturing the Data Into Confessing
Send us a textDr. Dennis Tourish is Professor of Leadership and Organisation Studies at the University of Sussex. He is the editor of the journal Leadership, and the author of several books including The Dark Side of Transformational Leadership, published and Management Studies in Crisis: Fraud, Deception and Meaningless Research. He is a proponent of the Responsible Research of Business and Management Network an organization that envisions a world where business and management research is used in practice to improve the lives of people. Learn More About Dennis' WorkArticle: The Triumph of Nonsense in Management StudiesBook: Management Studies in Crisis: Fraud, Deception and Meaningless Research Dennis Tourish at Google ScholarQuotes From This Episode"Too much of our research has driven around what statisticians call p-hacking, where you keep on running statistical analysis beyond the point of reason to torture the data into confessing.""It’s entirely possible to have a satisfactory and interesting career without ever publishing an article in the Academy of Management Review. And very few academics will do it. So by that standard, we are all pretty much failures.""I think it’s more important to have an enjoyable career, to do work that matters to us, and remain interested, focused, and curious, above all be curious, throughout our academic careers.""The world is moving fast and our scholarship needs to reflect that in a more timely manner than it does. I don’t mean that we should cut corners on our work. But we can certainly offer interesting ideas in a more timely manner than we seem to have been doing in the past."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeResponsible Research for Business and Management (RRBM)♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

May 5, 2021 • 37min
Dr. Jackie Bruce - A More Equitable, A More Just, and A More Liberated Community
Send us a textWhy does she engage in the work? For Dr. Jackie Bruce, it's crystal clear - and it's inspiring. "For me, the 'Why' is that we are creating a more equitable, more just, more liberated community. That's the point...not just to improve the bottom line...but so that every single person can be the person they were meant to be. That's the point." Her clarity struck me in a powerful way. Dr. Jackie Bruce is an Associate Professor, Director of Graduate Programs Agricultural & Extension Education and Undergraduate Coordinator, Leadership in Ag & Life Sciences Minor at North Carolina State University. She resides in the department of Agricultural & Human Sciences and teaches courses in leadership development & qualitative research methods, and advises undergraduate and graduate students. She serves as the Co-Director of the Oaks Leadership Scholars Program, is an Equal Opportunity Institute Graduate Scholar, and an LGBT Center Advocate. She enjoys great discussions and direct action related to creating more inclusive communities. Jackie is the Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Leadership Education and is honored to work with a vibrant community of leadership scholars and practitioners.Learn More About Jackie's WorkJournal of Leadership EducationDr. Bruce at Google ScholarQuotes From This Episode"The moment when we acknowledge that anybody can be a leader is huge.""As the conversations become more complex, as the world becomes closer, as the problems become more nuanced...the old stuff maybe doesn't fit anymore.""When I think about why we do this...why do I go into the classroom every day to educate young people on leadership? For me, the 'Why' is so that we are creating a more equitable, more just, more liberated community. That's the point...not just to improve the bottom line...but so that every single person can be the person they were meant to be. That's the point.""My K-12, educator friends use the phrase 'you got to Maslow before you can Bloom." It's the idea that we have to have those basic needs met. Kids have to be fed, sheltered, and clothed. They have to feel like they belong. They have to feel secure. And then we can start teaching them reading, writing, and arithmetic."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeIbram X. Kendi - How To Be An Anti-Racist Podcast: Pod Save AmericaPodcast: Coffee Break ItalianWebsite: Crooked MediaAb♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.
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