
Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)
This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show.On Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/@DtSR_PodcastOn YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqOn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/
Latest episodes

Sep 17, 2024 • 42min
DtSR Episode 619 - Aaron Bray The Complete Novice Guide to SBOM
Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: This week's episode features Aaron Bray, CEO of Phylum. We use this episode as a complete primer on SBOM (Software Bill of Materials). We cover the typical "lot of ground" but try to answer the question of what SBOMs are, how they're useful, and what you as practitioners can do now that you have them.YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/KHiDJt8SnZ0Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Sep 10, 2024 • 41min
DtSR Episode 618 - Jeff Collins Microservices Killed the Vulnerability Scan
Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: This week's episode sees the return of Mr Jeff Collins (of WanAware fame) as we talk over the long-prophesied death of vulnerability scanning. Maybe. What does the cloud have to do with the demise of vulnerability scanning? Listen and find out... I think you may find this relevant.This time, YouTube Video, is required viewing...trust me on this.YouTube Video: https://youtube.com/live/U3BsGXRV0L4Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Sep 3, 2024 • 49min
DtSR Episode 617 - Defending Forgotten but Business Critical Systems (SAP) Part 2
Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: This week, part 2 of the SAP ("Critical Enterprise Apps") discussion where Tom Venables & Jay Thoden van Velzen get a little more in-depth on what it takes to secure SAP and ensure that there's more than just a firewall between imminent disaster and your business. Jim TIller guest-hosts this in-depth episode, and we invite you to grab a notepad, and take some notes!Part 1 is here, listen to it first.YouTube Video: https://youtube.com/live/iH_mg4Hu0tcDigital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Aug 27, 2024 • 51min
DtSR Episode 616 - A Wh1t3 Rabbit at Black Hat 2024
Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: This episode is a "walk-around" episode, where I walked around Black Hat 2024 and ran into some friends to talk about what we're seeing, anything that caught their attention, and some other interesting insights in short-form recordings. I hope you enjoy listening to Lamont Orange, Aaron Bray, Alex Humphrey, and Rick Holland as much as I enjoyed the conversations.No video for this episode.Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Aug 20, 2024 • 39min
DtSR Episode 615 - Doug Cavit Defending a Whole County
Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: Have you ever wondered what it would be like to be responsible for security for an entire county? That job encompasses a massive amount of responsibility - but I'll let Doug Cavit, the CISO of Snohomish County, Washington tell us about it. What a resume, and what an incredible job Doug has.YouTube Video: https://youtube.com/live/selNfh5gQAUDigital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Aug 13, 2024 • 37min
DtSR Episode 614 - James Robinson Don't Worry SaaS is Probably Secure
Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: This episode was one of our awesome LinkedIn Live episodes - if you missed it, join us on LinkedIn and never miss another! On this one, James Robinson (CISO at Netskope) talks with Rafal and James with guest-host Jim TIller about the possibilities we have with SaaS, data protection, and the whole mess we've made over the last 20+ years of "data everywhere". Big thanks to Netskope for providing the excellent James Robinson onto the show!YouTube Video (if you prefer YouTube): https://youtube.com/live/8MnpK0H9az0Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Aug 6, 2024 • 39min
DtSR Episode 613 - Tim Miller A Frank Conversation on Software Manifests
Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: Today's episode is all about how we can build better software and systems - from a supply chain perspective. Tim Miller joins us, and it starts as a general conversation but we quickly dive into the world of software development. There's a lot to talk about here, starting with this XKCD that explains it perfectly: https://xkcd.com/2347/YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/XOMl_Hp8q_QDigital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Jul 30, 2024 • 34min
DtSR Episode 612 - Defending Forgotten but Business Critical Systems
Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: I bet you don't generally think about the software that actually runs the business when you're thinking security. In this episode, we tackle the security of SAP systems - the most popular business software on the planet - from some experts who tell us what we're missing. There's a lot to unpack here, and I bet you're not thinking about much of this, if any... I know my team wasn't. This is vital information.YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/q8j6pkFXxeMDigital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Jul 23, 2024 • 34min
DtSR Episode 611 - Bob Bragdon Writing the CISO Story
Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: This week's episode features someone you've probably known for a while, without actually knowing him. Bob Brandon talks about his journey through publishing the wildly successful CSO Magazine (now an online publication) and being close the the CISO world for a long time. He has a great story to tell, so listen in, and enjoy.YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/WafXp6xPpBYDigital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Jul 16, 2024 • 39min
DtSR Episode 610 - Rob Allen Zero Trust Without Breaking Stuff
Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: This week's guest is here to talk about Zero Trust... in a practical way. We're talking with Rob Allen of ThreatLocker about zero trust from a way you may have not thought about before. It's an interesting conversation and a piece of a much larger puzzle ... but from a practical standpoint, this may be the best actual place to start. Do you agree?YouTube Video: https://youtube.com/live/cgADamn2oQQDigital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast