Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR) DtSR Episode 642 - Chase Cunningham An Epic Zero Trust Keynote
Feb 25, 2025
In this engaging discussion featuring Chase Cunningham, a retired Navy chief and cryptologist with a wealth of experience from the NSA, he dismantles outdated security dogmas. Topics include the pressing need for basic security practices amidst complex tech environments and how organizations can effectively implement a zero trust model. Cunningham emphasizes the importance of asset visibility and a red team approach to combat cybersecurity challenges. His insights reveal the necessity of strong leadership and clarity in navigating today's security landscape.
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Cybersecurity Delusions
- The cybersecurity industry often engages in delusional practices.
- These practices involve implementing actions that contradict basic security principles, leading to predictable failures.
Zero Trust Approach
- Focus on where adversaries can succeed and remove those trust relationships.
- Don't solely concentrate on data location, as it's a complex challenge.
Data Control Challenges
- Traditional data controls haven't kept pace with data mobility.
- DRM and DLP solutions were ineffective in preventing data leaks but useful in discovering unknown data locations.