Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)

Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR:  This week's episode came from my (Rafal) brain. I've been reading far too much LinkedIn, and the "influencer" postings have been making me crazy. So, here we are. We talk through some of these posts, many of which are AI generated I think, and have a little fun with it. Call it...therapy.YouTube Video: https://youtube.com/live/uZVfkge8bQEDigital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: On this episode, part 4 of our AI series, we are once again joined by Raja Mukerji, Jeff Collins, and John Dickson to discuss what it means to think about security for AI. Is it something completely different? Is it something same-'ol? Or - is it a bit of both. And what aren't we thinking about when it comes to securing AI?YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/vUJIOrX0kHcDigital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: This week I bring John Dickson back to join Jeff Collins and Raja Mukerji as we talk through the following:What can AI do, for cyber security, that we can't do with current tools?What is the model for incorporating AI into cybersecurity - are we replacing people? augmenting people? both? neither?Where is AI the strongest in these use-cases today, and where is the promise for 12 - 36 months out?What are the LIMITATIONS for AI in cybersecurity? Are these short-term limitations, or long-term?Youtube: https://youtube.com/live/Tv_Lx76rl58Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: This week John Dickson returns to go deeper down the AI rabbit hole with special guest Erik Bloch as we dive into a more technical explanation of AI, how this innovation differs from other similar concepts, previous tech innovations, and some of the commercial vs consumer use-cases where AI is best suited. It's a deeper discussion, and we will for sure have a part 3, and likely 4 coming soon.YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/QXi6ed2NKhcDigital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

In this engaging discussion, John Dickson, CEO of Byte Whisper Security and a security veteran with over 30 years in the field, dives into the fascinating world of AI and security. He humorously shares insights from his career while exploring the complex duality of AI—potentially beneficial yet fraught with risks. The conversation highlights the challenges organizations face in integrating AI into their workflows and emphasizes the need for critical thinking amidst growing technology reliance. Dickson also touches on the importance of preserving traditional skills in a tech-driven world.

Sounil Yu, CTO and co-founder of Knostic and former chief scientist at Bank of America, joins to explore the intriguing question of whether machines can be taught discretion. The discussion highlights the implications of AI in a society on the brink of an AI era. Topics include the challenges of data access and the 'need to know' principle in organizations, as well as the necessity for customized AI guardrails to prevent biased outcomes. Yu emphasizes the importance of balancing clean data and strategic access to enhance security in a digital landscape.

Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: On this "live on the scene" episode from Zero Trust World 2025 sponsored by Threat Locker - I have the distinct pleasure to speak with Rich Latayan about his career leading big-company security programs as CISO and his current endeavor.YouTube: <coming soon>Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: As per the usual, this year's RSA Conference 2025 wrap-up is with my friend Ray Canzanese, Jr. We sit in the beautiful sunshine atop the Moscone Center (gardens) and have an interesting, conversation about a number of interesting topics not the least of which is the puppies and baby goats at this year's event (well played, vendors, well played).YouTube Video: https://youtu.be/LSdEMlKRZmwDigital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: Sometimes LinkedIn gives us an opportunity to record something meaningful - and in this episode we find a conversation with Ross Hosman's perspective on how to address the strained relationship between buyer and seller, CISO and vendor - in a meaningful way that you'll hopefully benefit from.Sales people, take notes. CISOs ... you too.YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/e_SbcB2ZsD8Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Send the hosts a message - try it now!TL;DR: This episode is a follow-up on two episodes, building up to this conversation. On episode 629 Hed Kovetz introduced us to "Identity Security" (https://dtsr.buzzsprout.com/2153215/episodes/16174464-dtsr-episode-629-what-the-hell-is-identity-security) and then on episode 646 Ward Pyles started the conversation about how security tools really aren't set up to protect from the identity perspective (https://dtsr.buzzsprout.com/2153215/episodes/16854549-dtsr-episode-646-ward-pyles-on-human-centric-security-for-real). Well - now we invited them both onto the show to talk it through and solve the problem Ward identified with the tech Hed spoke of.The result was better than we expected.YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/N7cyIOdChtwDigital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast