TL;DR: This week's episode features a long-time-coming discussion with Richard Bird discussing his book "Famous with 12 people", and the "influencer culture" in cybersecurity. It's an interesting discussion on how our industry works, and who makes it really turn.

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DtSR Episode 639 - Richard Bird Famous With 12 People