
The Short Term Show
The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental (Airbnb) investing and management. Host Avery Carl interviews successful real estate investors and CEOs of Airbnb related startups to bring inspirational and actionable content to listeners. Whether you are an experienced Airbnb investor or co-host, or you’re just getting started, The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental content.
About the host: Avery Carl bought her first Airbnb in 2015, and has since built a portfolio of over 250 doors, is the author of bestseller Short Term Rental, Long Term wealth, and is the CEO and Founder of The Short Term Shop, the country’s largest Airbnb-specific real estate team, with over 5,000 Airbnb investors served in 20 markets. The Short Term Shop has been named the #1 team worldwide at EXP 3x, has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, and USA Today.
Latest episodes

Jan 7, 2022 • 32min
Tapping into the Southern Market with Kurt Buchert
Kurt Buchert has many rentals across several markets including Florida and Colorado. He is strategic in his investing in that he not only has rentals in areas that are key lucrative areas but areas where he personally wants to utilize the home as well. Kurt is an experienced investor who has rentals both that he purchased as-is as well as those that he constructed himself, both large and small units, as well as units that were purchased using a variety of loan techniques. Regardless of the specifics of a rental, Kurt is an expert across the board
Avery speaks with Kurt about the intricacies of all of the units he operates and the key decisions he made for his rentals that contributed to his great success. Kurt gives a detailed description of the key factors in his rentals that make them marketable, whether it is more general like location or size to specifics like the presence of a porch swing. Avery and Kurt also discuss the many forms of loans and how to use them, as well as the intricacies of requesting loans from friends and family members. In addition, Kurt discusses the value of getting into the real estate world and the perks of having mentors to support you along the way in your rental investment journey.
Key Topics
How to make money through arbitrage
Investment of using your STR for personal purposes
Intricacies of operating a rental in Florida
Perks and difficulties of constructing your own STR
Differences between being a listing agent on new property vs existing listing
Benefits of small homes vs large ones
Benefit of natural shade and porches in warmer rentals
Tips on different types of loans
How to pitch to a loan to friend or family member
Value of just getting into the real estate world
Value of mentorship
The Wealthy Gardener
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Dec 31, 2021 • 1h 3min
Solving Small Problems with Big Solutions with Johnny Duray
Johnny Duray is both a veteran and an expert in the short-term rental sphere. He has a mastery of handling his properties with the necessary expertise and finesse to elevate his potential and his success. With rentals across two markets, Johnny has worked with a range of mortgage options, property types and has navigated setbacks and found long-term solutions for many of the problems that fellow STR property owners face.
Avery speaks with Johnny about everything from managing properties with swimming pools to the inner workings of VA loans. They speak about everything ranging from how to manage staff and making sure that you hire the right people to the difficulties of firing people who are not a good fit. They also discuss how to solve big problems with small fixes, and the value of putting a bit of money down to bolster your reviews and satisfaction of your customers. Amongst other topics, Johnny shares his immense wisdom in how to manage your business and constantly bolster your rentals to their utmost potential.
Key Topics
STR mortgaging strategies
How to enter the STR world with 0% down
Intricacies of VA loans
Determining the right location
Perks/downsides of having a pool
Importance of having good people on your team
Challenges of firing staff
Knowing a good deal from a bad one
Importance of not getting intimidated
How to solve big problems with small fixes
How STR is like a small business
Tips for constantly improving your business
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Dec 24, 2021 • 42min
Powerhouse Rentals in the Smokeys with Cale Delaney
Cale Delaney is a newer investor in the STR world, but he has quickly risen in success through his diverse range of houses and cabins in the Smokey Mountains. His luxury cabins are not only well located, but they can accommodate large groups of people and offer amazing amenities like hot tubs, arcades, and Peloton bikes. In addition to operating a diverse range of short-term rentals, Cale additionally works as a senior project manager in the construction industry.
Avery speaks with Cale about his path in the real estate investing world and how he got his start operating short-term rentals in the Smokey Mountains. Cale speaks openly about his experiences operating his rentals while also working a day job, and how it impacts his rental strategy. We speak about important factors that every renter from buying units to selling them, focusing on the value of diversifying your assets, and how to know your exit strategy. Cale and Avery discuss why every renter should set their own path rather than following others, and the immense importance of not getting discouraged, especially when you are just starting out.
Key Topics
How he got started in real estate investing
The inspiration behind renting in the Smokey Mountains
Importance of diversifying your assets
Managing STR with a day job
Value of knowing your exit strategy
Managing sticker shock
The technique of buying ‘stale’ listings
Value of setting your own path
Importance of not getting discouraged

Dec 17, 2021 • 35min
The Power of the Long Short with Julie Gates
Julie Gates is a real estate investor who specializes in pet-friendly “Long Short” rentals in Savannah, Georgia. She operates dozens of rentals that are unique in that they operate to niche markets in all aspects from how they are initially furnished to how they are marketed to the general population. In addition, unlike many short-term rentals, Julie is able to maximize gain by allowing people to bring their pets and charging a pet fee. Operating most of her homes for longer stays, Julie is able to appeal to specialized groups of individuals from people traveling to Atlanta for a month-long film shoot to digital nomads looking for adventure.
Avery speaks with Julie about the specialties of her in-depth expertise in the Long Short Rental. Julie discusses the benefits of setting residency limits in your STR, and how it helps to maximize profit and minimize unnecessary loss. We speak about the intricacies of setting up a STR behind the scenes and the value of specifics such as how to best market your short term rentals, pet fees, and how rental markets are impacted by location, whether the rental is based closer to the city or in a more suburban area. Julia shares her industry-wide advice on the benefit of specializing in your market, and the need to adapt quickly to the ever-changing industry to optimize success.
Key Topics
How to operate rentals in Georgia
How Julia got started in the industry
Benefit of having many different sized rentals
How to decorate and market towards your vision
Gains of doing your own marketing
How to get into longer term rentals
Specifics of charging a pet fee
Benefits of suburban STR
Benefits of specializing
Importance of staying technologically relevant
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
Sid Was Here Website
Sid Was Here Instagram

Dec 10, 2021 • 28min
The World of Miami Rentals with Sebastian Geraldo
Sebastian Geraldo is an expert when it comes to the Miami and Florida real estate market, owning many rentals throughout the state and beyond. Miami is not only a niche and effective market to invest in, but a highly desirable one regardless of season. In addition to his work in STR, Sebastian is also a mentor and founder of Airbnbs Miami, a large group of fellow investors who own and operate rentals in the area. Initially working in a different industry, Sebastian fell in love with real estate investing because it allowed him an opportunity to work for himself and take advantage of the flexibility that owning your own business allows.
Avery speaks with Sebastian about how he got started in the Miami real estate market and the hurdles that he faced along the way. Sebastian delves into how he first discovered real estate, as well as the issues he faced during COVID and how he needed to make powerful changes to his investment structure to maximize gain and adapt to the changing time. Sebastian also gives his specific advice on how the Miami market works from operations to the most desirable properties. Avery and Sebastian also speak about common mistakes in the industry, and how someone just starting out can best prepare before diving in.
Key Topics:
How to build a real estate community
How Sebastian managed during COVID
Importance of knowing when to lean down operations
What STR look like in Miami
Importance of training and learning before getting started
How to avoid common mistakes
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
Seven Habits of Highly Successful People
Airbnb Hosts South Florida

Dec 3, 2021 • 35min
Inner Workings of National and International STR with Zeona McIntyre
Zeona McIntyre is one of the most experienced real estate investors that has ever been on the Short Term Show. With nearly a decade of experience and a real estate extending many states and countries, Zeona is a true Renaissance woman in the real estate field. Zeona has been renting out short term rentals since she was in college and has a wide range of experience working with both short and long-term rental units, both which she owns and rents. She has a wide range of expertise when it comes to the benefits and pitfalls of renting in different markets, how to find the best rental model for you, as well as maximize gain and cashflow into your pockets.
Avery speaks with Zeona about how she got her start in rental units and how her rental portfolio has changed and expanded over time. Zeona shares her plethora of knowledge on international units and their pitfalls, as well as how to manage real estate holdings throughout the country and world without necessarily needing to visit them consistently in person. Zeona discusses her experience furnishing versus not furnishing her rental units, how she is able to manage many of her units from afar and her thoughts on the benefits of short versus long term rentals.
Key Topics
Tips for financial independence
Pitfalls of managing STR in other countries
How to expand your STR repertoire
Benefits of medium-term rentals
How to use the sweat equity model
How to decide whether to furnish your unit
Bigger Pockets Podcast
Never Split the Difference
Zeona’s Website
Zeona Instagram
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Nov 26, 2021 • 58min
How to Become a 1031 Investor with Dave Foster
Dave Foster is a true veteran in the real estate investment world. He first ventured into real estate investing as a way of chucking his 9 to 5 job and allowing himself the freedom to travel and live his life without corporate obligations. Passive real estate income has allowed him to explore and adventure, without the need for full-time, hands-on management. Though he made a decent profit, he was frustrated by government taxing and only retaining limited gain. However, through using 1031 exchange or through moving into his real estate investments, he was able to maximize profits and build his real estate empire across four sites without paying a penny in capital gains tax. Avery speaks with Dave about the intricacies of 1031 exchange and how he is able to take his real estate investments to new heights through his tactical investment techniques. He explains in detail how anyone, no matter the size of their holdings, can use 1031 exchange to build financial security and also gain increased returns that they can use to grow their holdings to new heights. Dave also goes in-depth about the work that he does with up-and-coming investors and how he teaches them this simple tax deferral strategy that allows them to build a brighter future. Key Topics How 1031 exchange changed Dave’s life Essentials of 1031 exchange Federal tax laws and rules behind real estate investing Specifics of 1031 exchange policies How to grow profit and investments The work that The 1031 Investor does Techniques to grow your real estate holdings The 1031 Investor Dave’s Instagram The Short Term Shop University The Short Term Shop Facebook Group IGMS Your Porter Smart BnB OwnerRez Beyond Pricing Pricelabs

Nov 19, 2021 • 32min
Automate Your Back Office with Henry Fuz
Henry Fuz is the Head of Product for Relay Financial, a company that provides access to financial products for small business owners. Henry and Relay are motivated to improve the success rate of small businesses by offering powerful financial automation and enhanced data visibility that allows every business to thrive to its utmost potential. Henry is an expert when it comes to his understanding of how to manage your small business assets most wisely, and efficiently so that you can focus on growing your business rather than the complicated financial systems behind them.
Avery speaks with Henry in-depth about the amazing services that Relay offers and how it differs from other brick-and-mortar financial institutions. We also discuss how digital financial services like Relay are becoming part of the new normal. Henry speaks about how the services are crafted to genuinely help small businesses, and why they work especially well for short-term rentals. Relay is able to not only save an individual’s time on the back-end but the system is set up to be easily accessible. Listen to this episode and learn how to take the complicated financials out of the equation. Focus on growing your business and Relay will do the rest!
Key Topics
Background on Relay
Why Relay works for short-term rentals
How Relay handles integrations
How to save time using a digital bank
Evolution of brick and mortar banks
Definition of automated back office
How Relay might work for your business
Relay
Relay Twitter
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Nov 12, 2021 • 31min
Power of True Conversation with Ryan Proffit
While working for the Air National Guide for nearly two decades, Ryan Proffit has simultaneously built an ever-growing real estate portfolio. With both short-term rentals and long-term rentals in his wheelhouse, Ryan is continuously growing his impressive real estate repertoire. He is remarkable in his ability to continuously act with integrity and accountability and is able to get access to new deals, and simultaneously propel his business to success by taking the networking out of making true and honest conversations with key figures in the industry.
Avery speaks with Ryan about his experience in the industry and what he learned starting out with his initial investments to the many units that he owns today. She speaks to him about techniques to getting started, from how to secure a business loan to more specific military loans like the Career Starter Loan. They discuss common mistakes that people make early on like panic buys and the risks that one faces. Avery and Ryan also go into depth into the power of connections in the industry and the value of treating everyone who you interact with with respect and kindness, and not only good things but additional powerful connections will follow.
Key Topics
Understanding career starter loans
Reasons to avoid panic buys
The necessity of trusting the data
Importance of bringing extra money to closing
Diaspora between risk and large return in the real estate market
Getting off-market deals through kindness
Value of real convos over networking
Long-term vs short-term rentals
Why Who you know matters
Extreme Ownership
The Book on Flipping Houses
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Nov 5, 2021 • 33min
Intricacies of Passive Investing with Tamar Hermes
You don’t need to be a full-time investor to make significant income in the real estate market. Tamar Hermes is a shining example of this. Tamar has formed strong partnerships where she co-owns rental units. Together with her partners, Tamar and her team have additionally hired the necessary people like property managers and home cleaners so that all of her investments can bring income into her pocket without needing to do work on the ground. Tamar is additionally an expert when it comes to the perks of buying and reselling in a competitive market, as well as how to purchase property with a 401K.
Avery goes into depth with Tamar about what makes for a powerful partnership and how to find strong collaborators who align with your visions for the future. We additionally speak about how to decide on real estate and how sharing investments with others can be powerful not only for your time but your wallet. Given Tamar’s years of experience, we additionally discuss her opinions on the best time to invest, and how to make the most of your investment through strategies like offset and buying a property with your 401K.
Key Topics
Value of partnerships in making powerful deals
How to get returns through passive investment
What makes a great partnership and how to create strong collaboration
Necessity of off-set
Importance of location when deciding on real estate
Perks of buying, selling vs refinancing
Buying property with a 401k
Links
Miracle Morning
Wealth Warrior Women
Wealth Warrior Women Instagram
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs