

The Short Term Show
8 Figure Airbnb and Short Term Rental Real Estate Investor Avery Carl
The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental (Airbnb) investing and management. Host Avery Carl interviews successful real estate investors and CEOs of Airbnb related startups to bring inspirational and actionable content to listeners. Whether you are an experienced Airbnb investor or co-host, or you’re just getting started, The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental content.
About the host: Avery Carl bought her first Airbnb in 2015, and has since built a portfolio of over 250 doors, is the author of bestseller Short Term Rental, Long Term wealth, and is the CEO and Founder of The Short Term Shop, the country’s largest Airbnb-specific real estate team, with over 5,000 Airbnb investors served in 20 markets. The Short Term Shop has been named the #1 team worldwide at EXP 3x, has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, and USA Today.
About the host: Avery Carl bought her first Airbnb in 2015, and has since built a portfolio of over 250 doors, is the author of bestseller Short Term Rental, Long Term wealth, and is the CEO and Founder of The Short Term Shop, the country’s largest Airbnb-specific real estate team, with over 5,000 Airbnb investors served in 20 markets. The Short Term Shop has been named the #1 team worldwide at EXP 3x, has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, and USA Today.
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Feb 18, 2022 • 39min
It's All in the Data with Emir Dukic
Emir Dukic is a man of many skills. He operates Rabbu out of Charlotte, NC, which not only offers premier, top-notch vacation rentals but also maintains a highly diverse portfolio across Southeast USA that helps standardize and generate data from a highly unpredictable and ever-changing industry. Rabbu functions as a full-service rental management platform that helps property investors make the most out of their investments. A survivor of war and cancer, Emir has reached great success despite the enormous hurdles that he has had to surpass to get there.
Avery speaks with Emir about his path to getting into the STR rental industry, as well as the basis with which he founded his company Rabbu. They speak specifically about the southeastern rental market and why it is such a hot spot amongst rental owners. They discuss the different services that Rabbu offers and the urban and vacation markets in which it operates. Amir shares his tips on finding the very vest properties, as well as how to choose a STR business path that is both successful, but not too heavily swayed by the decisions of others.
Key Topics
Opportunity in the southeastern USA
Services that Rabbu offers
The benefit of using data services
How to utilize data in the STR market
Emir’s personal STR experience
Opinion on catering to travel nurses
How to choose your STR path
Importance of being decisive in the rental market
Links
Rabbu
Furnished Finder
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Feb 11, 2022 • 42min
Bolstering Your Income Streams with Karan Narang
Karan Narang is the founder of Adventure Awaits Vacation Rentals, a company that he operates alongside his wife in Dallas. They have a passion for traveling around the world which has greatly impacted their desire to create comfortable short-term rentals for travelers everywhere. In addition, Karan also operates within the relocation housing world, offering medium-term housing to temporary residents through insurance companies as well as longer-term rentals.
Avery speaks with Karan about how he got started in the industry, and how his desire to shelter his income in a diverse range of assets made him interested in the rental market. They additionally speak about the specifics of providing relocation housing and how it allows for additional profit through small income streams. Karan speaks candidly about how small charges for things like pet fees and cleaning fees can help lead to maximum profit. In addition, they speak about the specific areas in which Karan operates - their strengths and their weaknesses.
Key topics
How Karan got started
Importance of diversifying your rentals
Benefits of charging small fees
How relocation housing works
How to qualify as a real estate professional
How to expand your STR
Specifics of the Broken Bow market
Tips for financing your rentals
Suggestions for pivoting your rentals
Who Not How
Adventure Awaits
Short Term Rental, Long Term Wealth
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Feb 4, 2022 • 29min
Renting from the Road with Reagan Natho
Reagan Natho is able to increase her STR potential while traveling throughout the US by living in an RV with her husband and two children. Reagan maximizes gain by living a nomadic lifestyle, enjoying the perks of traveling, and seeing the world with her family at the same time. She has an ever-expanding number of STR around southern USA, with a focus on the Tennessee market.
Avery and Reagan speak about how to manage unusual properties and how to ensure that you get upstream of bad reviews based on unavoidable rental factors such as steep driveways. They also discuss the politics of new constructions, common assumptions around them, and how to avoid common mistakes. Reagan also speaks about the benefits of living in an RV, and how it might impact second home loans. Lastly, Reagan and Avery share their perspectives on the dangers of analysis paralysis and the importance of both doing your due diligence and taking the leap of faith.
Key Topics
Benefits of short term vs long term rentals
Value of getting upstream of bad reviews
Workarounds for steep roads with nice views
Common assumptions about new constructions
Perks of living in an RV
Intricacies of the second home loan
Downsides of hot tubs
The benefit of getting started early
Reasons to avoid analysis paralysis
Importance of doing your research into your markets
Reagan’s Instagram
Short Term Rental, Long Term Wealth
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Jan 28, 2022 • 46min
Defying roadblocks to achieve success with Alex Sabio
Alex Sabio is a member of the Short Term Shop and a real estate investor with Alpha Geek Capital. Respiratory therapist by day, he is a master of creating STR that prioritizes cashflow within several markets nationally. When he first started out in the workforce, he felt limited by societal pressure to work in the medical field. However, he was able to shed that limiting belief and achieve enormous success in both the medical and real estate fields.
In this episode, Avery speaks with Alex about lessons one can learn from bouncing back from failure and how hitting rock bottom can be used as a tool for minimizing mistakes and maximizing success. Alex shares his learned advice on the dangers of limiting beliefs, and how they can get in the way of optimal success. They go into depth into tips of the trade, like how to work with lenders and the value of trusting your instinct. They also speak about their advice for picking your market, and tips of the trade from the dangers of purchasing homes in tourism funnels to the importance of documentation of customer conversations. Avery and Alex delve into how to succeed in the real estate industry despite roadblocks that might get in your way.
Key Topics
Tips for bouncing back from rock bottom
Lessons that can be learned from failure
How STR prioritize cash flow
Dangers of purchasing homes within tourism funnels
Tips for working with lenders
Dangers of limiting beliefs
Perks and downsides of pools
Importance of documentation
Alpha Geek Capital
Can’t Hurt Me Book
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Jan 21, 2022 • 50min
A Digital Nomad’s Perspective on Upping Your Host Game with Zach Busekrus
Short-term rentals allowed Zach Busekrus to turn the terrible COVID situation into an amazing journey. Taking the opportunity to work remotely by the reins, Zach has traveled the country since staying in Airbnbs all throughout the country with his wife. He is the brand strategist and founder of Enrollify, a learning hub that would help equip admissions and marketing professionals with ideas on how to better optimize the resources they do have to generate the results that they need. Throughout the past years, Zach has stayed in dozens of Airbnbs across the United States and has an amazing perspective on what makes his favorite rentals memorable and where others can improve.
Switching up the podcast and speaking with an Airbnb guest rather than a host, Avery speaks with Zach about his journey into becoming a digital nomad and how short-term rentals have allowed him to see the world around him in a whole new way. Zach also utilities his great deal of experience staying in Airbnbs to share his thoughts on certain considerations that short term rental owners should take into account, for example, specifics in managing customer relations, the purchasing of furniture, towels, sheets, and commodities as well as his experience with common STR items like Nest cameras and digital thermostats. They discuss the importance of marketing your rental to the type of renter that you would like to attract, as well as the small things that one can do to elevate their rental and bring in more 5-star reviews.
Key Topics
Experience of a digital nomad
How to bring your short term rental perks into the context of the home
Considerations of leaving condiments for guests
Perks of using different forms of shampoo/conditioner bottles
Benefits of digital locks and thermostats
Tips for attracting longer term stays
Managing pet-friendly homes
How to be a receptive, understanding host
Four-Hour Work Week
Deep Work
Behind the Stays Podcast
Sponstayneous
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Jan 14, 2022 • 36min
Check the Boxes to Get There with Hans Struzyna
Hans Struzyna is not only a true professional in the luxury real estate market of the Bay Area, but he is an award-winning Olympic medalist who competed in the Rio Olympics. With a solid background of skills that athletics have endowed in him with like dedication and persistence, Hans regularly works with multi-million dollar listings and investments, and is named one of the top 2% real estate agents in the East Bay and is in the top 10% of real estate agents in all of Northern California. In addition to his work in real estate, Hans is also a coach and public speaker where he shares his skills to achieve success and turn money into opportunity and a brighter future.
Avery speaks with Hans about the skills that athleticism has taught them and how they bring them to the professional world. Attributes like coachability and willingness to push through discomfort are both invaluable skills when entering any industry. They also speak about how Hans got his start in the real estate markets and how he went from working on foreclosed homes to operating as one of the most successful real estate agents in California. Hans and Avery dive into the dangers of limiting beliefs, and how they can hold someone back from achieving success, as well as the necessity to use your existing skills to expand the price of your units without getting bogged down by the extra zeros. Don’t focus on ‘bigness,’ just check the boxes to get there.
Key Topics
How Hans moved from athletic to professional world
Transferrable skills from athletics
Value of coachability
Skill required to get through something initially uncomfortable
How Hans got his start in real estate
Challenges of the luxury market
Common limiting believes in the investment industry
Tips for investing out of state
Importance of building a strong team
Value of learning from experienced sellers
How to turn money into an opportunity
Hans’ Course - The Luxury Market Workshop
Hans’ Website
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Jan 7, 2022 • 32min
Tapping into the Southern Market with Kurt Buchert
Kurt Buchert has many rentals across several markets including Florida and Colorado. He is strategic in his investing in that he not only has rentals in areas that are key lucrative areas but areas where he personally wants to utilize the home as well. Kurt is an experienced investor who has rentals both that he purchased as-is as well as those that he constructed himself, both large and small units, as well as units that were purchased using a variety of loan techniques. Regardless of the specifics of a rental, Kurt is an expert across the board
Avery speaks with Kurt about the intricacies of all of the units he operates and the key decisions he made for his rentals that contributed to his great success. Kurt gives a detailed description of the key factors in his rentals that make them marketable, whether it is more general like location or size to specifics like the presence of a porch swing. Avery and Kurt also discuss the many forms of loans and how to use them, as well as the intricacies of requesting loans from friends and family members. In addition, Kurt discusses the value of getting into the real estate world and the perks of having mentors to support you along the way in your rental investment journey.
Key Topics
How to make money through arbitrage
Investment of using your STR for personal purposes
Intricacies of operating a rental in Florida
Perks and difficulties of constructing your own STR
Differences between being a listing agent on new property vs existing listing
Benefits of small homes vs large ones
Benefit of natural shade and porches in warmer rentals
Tips on different types of loans
How to pitch to a loan to friend or family member
Value of just getting into the real estate world
Value of mentorship
The Wealthy Gardener
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Dec 31, 2021 • 1h 3min
Solving Small Problems with Big Solutions with Johnny Duray
Johnny Duray is both a veteran and an expert in the short-term rental sphere. He has a mastery of handling his properties with the necessary expertise and finesse to elevate his potential and his success. With rentals across two markets, Johnny has worked with a range of mortgage options, property types and has navigated setbacks and found long-term solutions for many of the problems that fellow STR property owners face.
Avery speaks with Johnny about everything from managing properties with swimming pools to the inner workings of VA loans. They speak about everything ranging from how to manage staff and making sure that you hire the right people to the difficulties of firing people who are not a good fit. They also discuss how to solve big problems with small fixes, and the value of putting a bit of money down to bolster your reviews and satisfaction of your customers. Amongst other topics, Johnny shares his immense wisdom in how to manage your business and constantly bolster your rentals to their utmost potential.
Key Topics
STR mortgaging strategies
How to enter the STR world with 0% down
Intricacies of VA loans
Determining the right location
Perks/downsides of having a pool
Importance of having good people on your team
Challenges of firing staff
Knowing a good deal from a bad one
Importance of not getting intimidated
How to solve big problems with small fixes
How STR is like a small business
Tips for constantly improving your business
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Dec 24, 2021 • 42min
Powerhouse Rentals in the Smokeys with Cale Delaney
Cale Delaney is a newer investor in the STR world, but he has quickly risen in success through his diverse range of houses and cabins in the Smokey Mountains. His luxury cabins are not only well located, but they can accommodate large groups of people and offer amazing amenities like hot tubs, arcades, and Peloton bikes. In addition to operating a diverse range of short-term rentals, Cale additionally works as a senior project manager in the construction industry.
Avery speaks with Cale about his path in the real estate investing world and how he got his start operating short-term rentals in the Smokey Mountains. Cale speaks openly about his experiences operating his rentals while also working a day job, and how it impacts his rental strategy. We speak about important factors that every renter from buying units to selling them, focusing on the value of diversifying your assets, and how to know your exit strategy. Cale and Avery discuss why every renter should set their own path rather than following others, and the immense importance of not getting discouraged, especially when you are just starting out.
Key Topics
How he got started in real estate investing
The inspiration behind renting in the Smokey Mountains
Importance of diversifying your assets
Managing STR with a day job
Value of knowing your exit strategy
Managing sticker shock
The technique of buying ‘stale’ listings
Value of setting your own path
Importance of not getting discouraged

Dec 17, 2021 • 35min
The Power of the Long Short with Julie Gates
Julie Gates is a real estate investor who specializes in pet-friendly “Long Short” rentals in Savannah, Georgia. She operates dozens of rentals that are unique in that they operate to niche markets in all aspects from how they are initially furnished to how they are marketed to the general population. In addition, unlike many short-term rentals, Julie is able to maximize gain by allowing people to bring their pets and charging a pet fee. Operating most of her homes for longer stays, Julie is able to appeal to specialized groups of individuals from people traveling to Atlanta for a month-long film shoot to digital nomads looking for adventure.
Avery speaks with Julie about the specialties of her in-depth expertise in the Long Short Rental. Julie discusses the benefits of setting residency limits in your STR, and how it helps to maximize profit and minimize unnecessary loss. We speak about the intricacies of setting up a STR behind the scenes and the value of specifics such as how to best market your short term rentals, pet fees, and how rental markets are impacted by location, whether the rental is based closer to the city or in a more suburban area. Julia shares her industry-wide advice on the benefit of specializing in your market, and the need to adapt quickly to the ever-changing industry to optimize success.
Key Topics
How to operate rentals in Georgia
How Julia got started in the industry
Benefit of having many different sized rentals
How to decorate and market towards your vision
Gains of doing your own marketing
How to get into longer term rentals
Specifics of charging a pet fee
Benefits of suburban STR
Benefits of specializing
Importance of staying technologically relevant
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
Sid Was Here Website
Sid Was Here Instagram


