
The Short Term Show
The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental (Airbnb) investing and management. Host Avery Carl interviews successful real estate investors and CEOs of Airbnb related startups to bring inspirational and actionable content to listeners. Whether you are an experienced Airbnb investor or co-host, or you’re just getting started, The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental content.
About the host: Avery Carl bought her first Airbnb in 2015, and has since built a portfolio of over 250 doors, is the author of bestseller Short Term Rental, Long Term wealth, and is the CEO and Founder of The Short Term Shop, the country’s largest Airbnb-specific real estate team, with over 5,000 Airbnb investors served in 20 markets. The Short Term Shop has been named the #1 team worldwide at EXP 3x, has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, and USA Today.
Latest episodes

Oct 29, 2021 • 45min
RV Rentals and Driving Up Profits with Corinn Altomare
Corinn Altomare is the CEO and founder of Hearthfire Holdings. With a decade in the real estate market, Corinn is no stranger to the inner workings of the industry. Originally starting as a side hustle to accompany her music career, Corinn’s portfolio steadily grew and real estate became her full-time job. Working alongside her family members, she currently has a portfolio of over $30M. In addition to her experience renting homes of all sizes, Corinn has recently uncovered profitability in the self-storage RV industry.
Avery speaks with Corinn about her experience in the industry and how she got her start in multiple areas of the market. Through her experience growing a business of her own, we speak about the best techniques to use when scaling a business, as well as how to manage your company while simultaneously trying to manage important aspects of one's personal life like raising a child. Corinn speaks honestly about the value of having different personalities within your company and how different people may be suited to particular roles. We also discuss the inner workings of the RV market, how they have shifted since COVID and how RV rentals might differ from multi-family home rentals.
Key Topics
Value of building to scale
The benefit of assigning responsibilities based on personality
How to enter the RV rental business
Managing a business and raising a child
Massive demand for RV rentals
Impact of COVID on the RV rental market
Average, dynamic RV rental rate
Managing mileage threshold
Inner workings of RV resell units
How growing your business can be fun
Value of building a strong network
Hearthfire Holdings
Who Not How
Ayn Rand
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs

Oct 22, 2021 • 40min
Taking the Leap of Faith with Tim Grillot
Tim Grillot may be a newer investor in the short term market but he is quickly taking the necessary steps to achieve great success in the future. With key rentals in the Smokey Mountains and Gulf Shores, Tim is a member of the Short Term Shop who will stop at nothing to expand his rental market. Recently, Tim sold his home and moved into an RV to raise money to buy new rentals. Due to his strategic planning and willingness to take risks, Tim has been able to accumulate new rentals at a rapid pace.
Avery speaks to Tim about techniques he recommends when starting out in the short-term rental sphere and the benefits of learning from your mistakes when you are first starting out. Specifically, Tim describes his experience with natural disasters and how it taught him about the value of loss of use insurance. We additionally speak in depth about how to secure money for investments even if you may not have a lot of liquid funds starting out. Tim should be a role model of anyone hoping take the plunge and enter the real estate industry themselves.
Key Topics
Strategies for starting out in the market
Value of learning from your mistakes
Tips for Identifying your key market
How to overcome natural disasters
Necessity of loss of use insurance
How to go about financing real estate investments without a large amount of lucid funds
Commercial vs conventional financing
Benefits of moving into an RV to finance future rentals
The only way to learn is to do it and take the risk
Turn problems into processes
Rich Dad, Poor Dad
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
HostGPO

Oct 14, 2021 • 33min
Get Help Optimizing Cashflow with Robert Gonzalez
Robert Gonzalez is the COO and co-founder of MyBooks.PRO a company that provides financial stability and profitability for real estate agents, professionals and investors. Having worked with a diverse range of people and businesses, Robert has a keen understanding of the biggest issues in the industry and how they can easily be solved through careful financial management. So many people are good at selling real estate, but not good at the books. That’s where people like Robert play a role.
Avery goes in depth with Robert about the important role that a bookkeeper can play in helping a real estate powerhouse keep their finances in check. In addition to covering how to minimize loss and maximize profit, we also discuss the benefits of careful financial planning and understanding where every cost related to your properties comes into play. Robert emphasizes the importance of tracking your expenses and how a bookkeeper can help you maximize your success while understanding your finances in a digestible way.
Key Topics
Importance of understanding your inward and outward cash flow
How to minimize losses and maximize profit in your investments
Benefit of breaking down specific costs of running a business
How to view your cost reports in a digestible way
Benefit of tracking even the smallest charge throughout the year
Value of tracking assets and liability
Distinguishing charges without separate bank accounts
Importance of immediate communication when making a personal purchase on a business account
When is the right time to get a booking company
Bookkeeper expectations
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Mybooks.pro
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
HostGPO

Oct 8, 2021 • 32min
Investing to Retire Early with Travis Zappia
Travis Zappia might be young, but he is already on track to retire by 33. Generating hundreds of thousands of dollars a year solely through his short term rentals, Travis has tapped into several markets including Orlando and the Smokey Mountains. He is an expert when it comes to understanding how to generate positive cashflow and make the most out of your real estate investments. Having started at a young age, Travis is a shining example of how someone can increase their profits at a young age through specific investment strategies and starting at a young age.
Avery speaks with Travis about how he navigated his investments during COVID, how he got his start in the market and how he plots his strategy to the different markets in which he works. We also speak about how techniques that people can use to start investing early from 20% down loans to 15% down loans and how this might change with different sizes units. Travis and I additionally speak about how to manage your unit from afar, and the importance of building a strong team that leaves your rental in capable hands.
Benefits of the Florida market around Disney World
Differences between Smokey’s and Orlando
Pivoting rentals to different markets with COVID
Why to pick short term rentals vs long term
The benefit of being physically close to the property
How to set up on-site teams
Techniques for managing properties from a distance
Benefits of purchasing with 20% down loans and lower
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
The ONE Thing
Rich Dad, Poor Dad

Oct 1, 2021 • 49min
Tiny Home Villages and Glamping Sites with Robert Abosolo
Two of the most tricky short-term rental strategies that exist are Tiny homes and Glamping sites and today’s guest on The Short Term Show - Robert Absolo is acing it in both those areas. After a slow start, thanks to some early hesitations and “overthinking” deals when he was in his twenties, Robert has built up his short term rental portfolio to become a Tiny Home- and Glamping -genius. With multiple extremely profitable listings on Airbnb and Airstream, he openly shares the numbers on his costs and profits from his Tiny Home investments.
Your host, Avery Carl gets into the nitty-gritty details with Robert around what it takes to choose, invest in and run a short term rental Tiny Home successfully.
Discussion Points
Robert’s background in rentals
Advice on getting into “Tiny House” rentals
Types of Zoning
Working with Government officials
Cost and timelines associated with building approval
Tiny Houses on Wheels vs Tiny houses on a fixed foundation
Airstream and Airstream Community
Number details on Robert’s Listings
Owning property in California
Financing these builds
How to choose your market
Advice Robert would give 20-year-old Robert
Advice to new investors
A book that impacted Robert’s mindset
Resources
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
Robert Abosolo YouTube
Airstream
BRRRR Book

Sep 23, 2021 • 43min
Leveraging your Portfolio and Maximizing Possibilities with Scriven Hoefs
Scriven Hoefs, a business development specialist with expertise in Construction and Oil and Gas, shares invaluable insights on leveraging your real estate portfolio while maintaining a long-term W2 job. He discusses innovative strategies like land flipping and the reverse BURRRR method. Scriven emphasizes the importance of personal mindset and building effective partnerships in business. He also offers practical advice on identifying the right real estate markets and gradually scaling business ventures for sustained success.

Sep 17, 2021 • 37min
Creating Pet-Friendly Profit-Focused Rentals with Rachel Gainsburgh
Rachel Gainsbrugh is a full-time IT Executive Pharmacist, part-time short term real estate market extraordinaire. After paying off her student loans, she and her husband were looking for a feasible way to catapult their savings in the right direction. Now, Rachel and her husband have listings all throughout the US, and work to help others who are just starting out in the field. She is an expert when it comes to capitalizing on specific markets and a variety of clients to keep her rentals booked and the cash flowing in,.
I speak with Rachel about the benefits of the different markets that she works in - from Atlanta to the Poconos. We also speak about how to go about finding your ideal clientele and how certain markets might cater to different types of people. Rachel and I additionally delve into the prospect of managing pet-friendly listings and the perks versus the costs that might be connected to that decision. We additionally talk about the common fears when just starting out in the industry, as well as the inner workings of the market that people might not initially (but should) consider.
Key Topics
Making short term real estate work as a side hustle
Hot markets in the country
Perks of Atlanta real estate market
How to find your clientele
Community service-centered short term rentals
Benefits and risks of being pet friendly
How to keep your unit clean and pet friendly
Time cost of cleaning up between pets
Initial risks and reliefs related to new rentals
Inner workings of a strong short term rental
Common fears and how to overcome them
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
Rachel’s Facebook
Rachel’s Instagram
Ozone Filter
Bigger Pockets Series
Brandon Turner Real Estate Investing
Miracle Morning
The 1 Thing

Sep 10, 2021 • 33min
Optimizing your Home, Both Inside and Out with Jeff Lloulian
Jeff Lloulian has been in the vacation rental industry for almost a decade. At one point managing hundreds of properties ranging from cozy cabins to luxury mansions, Jeff is additionally an entrepreneur always working to solve interdisciplinary problems in emerging industries. He has a background in both Economics and Philosophy, as well as experience as a lawyer practicing business litigation, cybersecurity and intellectual property. He is the founder and CEO of HostGPO, a company hoping to save short term rental owners time and money by offering them exclusive deals and offers to purchase vital furniture and supplies for their rentals. HostGPO now has 75,000 members between the US and Canada and is expanding rapidly.
Avery speaks with Jeff about his advice for not only investing in short-term rentals but acquiring the supplies and furniture needed to make them a success. We speak about how specific furniture caters to different markets and design aesthetics, as well as tips and tricks of the industry. We go into depth into the must-haves, common mistakes, advice, as well as how HomeGPO can benefit any rental unit owner no matter their experience or the current number of units that they currently have. We additionally speak about the intricacies of different markets specifically, the benefits of building equity and how to navigate the many hurdles that renters face in every part of the business.
How to negotiate deals on all aspects of short term rentals
How to avoid misleading or overpriced offers
How to save time and money with higher quality furniture
Jeff’s path from managing units himself to managing the company
Inspiration behind why Jeff created his company
Benefits of arbitrage units for everyone involved
Regulations in a high end markets like Malibu
Qualifications to join HostGPO
Massive inventory options at HostGPO
Dangers of log furniture and bed bugs
Benefits of joining the HostGPO community
Importance of building equity early on
Why not to treat the short term rental market as a side hustle
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
HostGPO
Getting to Maybe
HostGPO partners:
Standard Textile
Public Goods
World Amenities
Brooklinen
Helix
Society6

Sep 9, 2021 • 33min
Optimizing your Home, Both Inside and Out with Jeff Iloulian
Jeff Iloulian has been in the vacation rental industry for almost a decade. At one point managing hundreds of properties ranging from cozy cabins to luxury mansions, Jeff is additionally an entrepreneur always working to solve interdisciplinary problems in emerging industries. He has a background in both Economics and Philosophy, as well as experience as a lawyer practicing business litigation, cybersecurity and intellectual property. He is the founder and CEO of HostGPO, a company hoping to save short term rental owners time and money by offering them exclusive deals and offers to purchase vital furniture and supplies for their rentals. HostGPO now has 75,000 members between the US and Canada and is expanding rapidly.
Avery speaks with Jeff about his advice for not only investing in short-term rentals but acquiring the supplies and furniture needed to make them a success. We speak about how specific furniture caters to different markets and design aesthetics, as well as tips and tricks of the industry. We go into depth into the must-haves, common mistakes, advice, as well as how HomeGPO can benefit any rental unit owner no matter their experience or the current number of units that they currently have. We additionally speak about the intricacies of different markets specifically, the benefits of building equity and how to navigate the many hurdles that renters face in every part of the business.
How to negotiate deals on all aspects of short term rentals
How to avoid misleading or overpriced offers
How to save time and money with higher quality furniture
Jeff’s path from managing units himself to managing the company
Inspiration behind why Jeff created his company
Benefits of arbitrage units for everyone involved
Regulations in a high end markets like Malibu
Qualifications to join HostGPO
Massive inventory options at HostGPO
Dangers of log furniture and bed bugs
Benefits of joining the HostGPO community
Importance of building equity early on
Why not to treat the short term rental market as a side hustle
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs
HostGPO
Getting to Maybe
HostGPO partners:
Standard Textile
Public Goods
World Amenities
Brooklinen
Helix
Society6

Sep 3, 2021 • 44min
The Value Behind the Land with Julie McCoy
Julie McCoy is a member of the Short Term Shop and a major investor all throughout the US, focusing on the Smoky Mountains. She started investing in the real estate market in 2017 when she was working in the television industry, but quickly her real estate side hustle became her main hustle. She has now become a full-time Realtor, assisting Investors everywhere reach the same financial freedom that she achieved.
In this episode, host Avery Carl speaks with Short Term Shop member Julie McCoy about her journey in the real estate market as well as tips of the trade that Julie has whether you are starting out in the real estate market or you already have your first few rentals. We discuss aspects of short-term rentals and building new units from scratch that people do not often think about when they first buy land - from septic systems to wells. Join us as we delve into the short-term rental market’s intricacies and tips for success.
What You Will Learn
How to make your money work for you
The beauty of the short term real estate market
How to find your niche
What constitutes a good deal
What constitutes good cashflow
How to customize your land
Importance of knowing your land
How to think about septic systems and wells
Importance of developing a strong team
The Short Term Shop University
The Short Term Shop Facebook Group
Rich Dad, Poor Dad
Cashflow Quadrant
julie@shorttermshop.com
IGMS
Your Porter
Smart BnB
OwnerRez
Beyond Pricing
Pricelabs