
One Nation, Indivisible with Andrew Seidel
This is a podcast about religion, the separation of church and state, and the battle for America's soul. Secular activist, bestselling author, and constitutional lawyer and author Andrew L. Seidel delivers weekly interviews and commentary on all the legal and constitutional issues of Trump's second term and the battles to keep church and state separate.
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May 13, 2025 • 21min
012: Putting the White in White Christian Nationalism
Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content every Monday - and all the benefits from Straight White American Jesus: bonus content on Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 800-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/Subscribe to One Nation, Indivisible with Axis Mundi MediaAndrew's socials: Instagram TikTok YouTube Threads BlueskyAndrew’s books: American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious FreedomThe Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-AmericanThis episode touches on the recent controversies around the new Pope’s actions, the resignation of 'Righteous Gemstones', the rise of white Christian nationalism, and specific incidents of racism by individuals like Shiloh Hendricks and Lily Gaddis.It also covers the fundraising support for racists and criminals on the GiveSendGo platform, and the differential treatment of activists based on their race and political stances. Seidel emphasizes the deep-rooted connection between American Christianity and racism, and recommends key resources for understanding this phenomenon.Katherine Stewart reporting on Rev. Barber and Anti-Christian Bias Task Force for The New Republic: https://newrepublic.com/article/194834/trump-anti-christian-bias-task-forceAmanda Marcotte reporting on Gaddis for Salon: https://www.salon.com/2024/06/17/a-tradwife-drops-a-slur-why-the-rights-trolling-economy-made-lilly-gaddis-rise-inevitable/ Understanding Christian Nationalism reading list on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/understanding-christian-nationalismWhite Evangelical Racism by Anthea Butler https://bookshop.org/a/71739/9781469661179 Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

May 6, 2025 • 42min
011: A Religious Public School? SCOTUS Will Decide Soon
Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content every Monday - and all the benefits from Straight White American Jesus: bonus content on Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 800-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/Subscribe to One Nation, Indivisible with Axis Mundi MediaAndrew's socials: Instagram TikTok YouTube Threads BlueskyAndrew’s books: American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious FreedomThe Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-AmericanIn this episode of One Nation, Indivisible, Andrew discusses the controversial issue of a religious charter school in Oklahoma, delving into its implications for the separation of church and state. With contributions from Elizabeth Cavell, Deputy Legal Director at the Freedom From Religion Foundation, the discussion covers the US Supreme Court's potential ruling on the constitutionality of such a school, its impact on American public education, and the influence of Christian nationalist groups. Key arguments from the Supreme Court case are analyzed, highlighting the tensions between the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause. The episode also touches on the Trump administration's stance on church-state separation and its broader implications.Guest is Elizabeth Cavell, Deputy Legal Director at the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Headshot and bio: https://ffrf.org/about/staff-and-board/elizabeth-cavell/ We Dissent Podcast: https://we-dissent.org/ Freedom From Religion Foundation FFRF.orgAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Apr 29, 2025 • 48min
010: Opus Dei and the New Pope
Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content every Monday - and all the benefits from Straight White American Jesus: bonus content on Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 800-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/Subscribe to One Nation, Indivisible with Axis Mundi MediaAndrew's socials: Instagram TikTok YouTube Threads BlueskyAndrew’s books: American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious FreedomThe Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-AmericanIn this episode of One Nation, Indivisible, Andrew Seidel speaks with Gareth Gore, author of a new book on Opus Dei, about the powerful intersection of religion and politics. They explore the controversial history of Opus Dei, its growing influence in Washington D.C., and its complicated relationship with Pope Francis. The conversation also examines the global implications of a future papal transition, what Opus Dei seeks in the next Pope, and the organization’s broader cultural and political ambitions. Plus, they discuss parallels with other religious movements and a major Supreme Court case over LGBTQ-inclusive books in public schools.Link to Gareth's book and socials: https://bookshop.org/a/71739/9781668016145https://bsky.app/profile/garethgore.bsky.socialhttps://x.com/gareth_gore Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Apr 22, 2025 • 44min
009: Why I Left the Washington Post with Kate Cohen
Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content every Monday - and all the benefits from Straight White American Jesus: bonus content on Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 800-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/Subscribe to One Nation, Indivisible with Axis Mundi MediaAndrew's socials: Instagram TikTok YouTube Threads BlueskyAndrew’s books: American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious FreedomThe Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-AmericanIn this episode of One Nation Indivisible, Andrew talks with Kate Cohen, author of 'We of Little Faith,' about her decision to leave the Washington Post. Cohen explores how billionaire owner Jeff Bezos's influence led to a compromised editorial independence at the Post.They also discuss the crucial role of secularism and free thought in contemporary America, the importance of personal integrity, and the ongoing struggle to maintain the separation of church and state. The conversation covers the importance of factual truth in education, the challenges of building local atheist communities, and the critical need for moral leadership during these times.List of Books to Make you Rethink EverythingAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Apr 15, 2025 • 24min
008: Briefing Congress on our Godless Constitution
Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content every Monday - and all the benefits from Straight White American Jesus: bonus content on Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 800-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/Subscribe to One Nation, Indivisible with Axis Mundi MediaAndrew's socials: Instagram TikTok YouTube Threads BlueskyAndrew’s books: American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious FreedomThe Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-AmericanIn this episode of One Nation, Indivisible, host Andrew Seidel recounts his recent experience briefing the Congressional Freethought Caucus on the secular foundations of the U.S. Constitution and the dangerous disinformation campaigns driving Christian nationalism. Joined by Reverend Dr. Brian Kaylor, author of Baptizing America, the conversation covered everything from the godless origins of the Constitution to the fabricated myths pushed by figures like David Barton and embraced by politicians like Speaker Mike Johnson. Andrew reflects on the need to reclaim patriotism as a defense of freedom of thought, explains how historical lies fuel modern Christian nationalist legislation, and highlights coordinated efforts like Project Blitz that aim to erode church-state separation. Despite the challenges, he shares a hopeful message about members of Congress who genuinely care about truth, democracy, and protecting real religious freedom—not the weaponized version used by extremists.Links:https://www.thesrf.org/FreethoughtCruise.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Apr 8, 2025 • 36min
007: Trump Is Disappearing People + Oklahoma Sues to Impose God on School Children +
Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content every Monday - and all the benefits from Straight White American Jesus: bonus content on Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 800-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/Subscribe to One Nation, Indivisible with Axis Mundi MediaAndrew's socials: Instagram TikTok YouTube Threads BlueskyAndrew’s books: American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious FreedomThe Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-AmericanLink to the Oklahoma complaint against FFRF: https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/walters-lawsuit-ffrf-67eb02422f07f.pdf Poem: What I would tell Eve, by Meghen McAuliffe O'Leary in Full Belly: Poems by Maegen McAuliffe O’Leary, available from TheFinishedProject.org.In this episode, Andrew Seidel discusses Christian Nationalist Ryan Walters' absurd lawsuit against the Freedom from Religion Foundation (FFRF) for upholding the separation of church and state in Oklahoma schools. The episode also covers the alarming actions of the Trump administration, which have led to the deportation of individuals without due process. Andrew criticizes the poor quality of Walters' lawsuit and emphasizes the importance of due process in protecting constitutional rights against authoritarian power.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Apr 1, 2025 • 41min
006: The Supreme Court’s Next Religion Case Could Gut the Social Safety Net
Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content every Monday - and all the benefits from Straight White American Jesus: bonus content on Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 800-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/Subscribe to One Nation, Indivisible with Axis Mundi MediaAndrew's socials: Instagram TikTok YouTube Threads BlueskyAndrew’s books: American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious FreedomThe Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-AmericanIn this episode of One Nation, Indivisible, host Andrew Seidel is joined by Elizabeth Cavell, Deputy Legal Director at the Freedom From Religion Foundation, to break down a major Supreme Court case that could reshape religious exemptions in the U.S. At the center: whether Catholic Charities Bureau should be exempt from Wisconsin’s unemployment insurance system based on its religious affiliation.Seidel and Cavell explore the history of unemployment insurance in Wisconsin, the legal and constitutional arguments at play, and how this case fits into a broader strategy by religious liberty advocacy groups like the Beckett Fund. They also critique the justices’ questions during oral arguments and consider the potential ripple effects on social safety nets and church-state separation.Elizabeth Cavell, Deputy Legal Director at the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Elizabeth received her B.A in English from the University of Florida in 2005. After college, Elizabeth spent a year as a full-time volunteer in AmeriCorps*NCCC. She attended Tulane University Law School and received her Juris Doctor in 2009. After law school, she worked as a deputy public defender in southern Colorado. She joined the Foundation as a staff attorney in January 2013, after working for the Foundation part-time since September 2012. Elizabeth became Deputy Legal Director in April 2024.We Dissent Podcast: https://we-dissent.org/ Freedom From Religion Foundation FFRF.orgAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Mar 25, 2025 • 42min
005: Could the Supreme Court Overturn Marriage Equality? w/ Brandon Wolf
Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content every Monday - and all the benefits from Straight White American Jesus: bonus content on Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 800-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/Subscribe to One Nation, Indivisible with Axis Mundi MediaAndrew's socials: Instagram TikTok YouTube Threads BlueskyAndrew’s books: American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious FreedomThe Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American"Subscribe to Red State Religions here"Chief Justice John Roberts has only ever read one dissent from the bench—and it was his scathing take on the decision that brought marriage equality to the United States: Obergefell v. Hodges. In this episode, host Andrew Seidel revisits that landmark case and explores an unsettling question: Could the current Supreme Court overturn marriage equality?With a sharply conservative bench and Christian nationalist legal groups working behind the scenes, this possibility is more real than many would like to admit.To unpack this complex legal landscape, Andrew is joined by Brandon Wolf, LGBTQ+ advocate, Pulse nightclub survivor, and author of A Place for Us. Together, they dive into:The history and impact of Obergefell v. HodgesWhere the conservative justices currently stand on LGBTQ+ rightsThe rise of religious legal groups like Liberty CounselState-level efforts to undermine marriage equalityWhat a possible challenge to Obergefell might look like—and how soon it could comeWhile this episode doesn’t aim to cause panic, it does offer a clear-eyed look at the threats we’re facing—and how to fight back.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Mar 18, 2025 • 45min
004: 5 Ways You Can Fight Back, Kick Ass, and Build Community w/ Brad Onishi
Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content every Monday - and all the benefits from Straight White American Jesus: bonus content on Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 800-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/Subscribe to One Nation, Indivisible with Axis Mundi MediaAndrew's socials: Instagram TikTok YouTube Threads BlueskyAndrew’s books: American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious FreedomThe Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-AmericanIn this episode of One Nation, Indivisible, host Andrew Seidel is joined by Brad Onishi (Straight White American Jesus) for a powerful discussion on practical ways to push back against political and social threats.From calling representatives and attending town halls to protesting, creating subversive art, and even running for office, they explore the many ways individuals can take action. The conversation highlights how small, everyday efforts—when multiplied—can create real change, and why community engagement is essential for defending democracy.Whether you're on the frontlines or supporting from behind the scenes, this episode will inspire you to find your role in the fight for justice. With real-life examples and historical context, it’s a compelling call to action for anyone looking to make a difference.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Mar 11, 2025 • 28min
003: The Anti-Christian Task Force Grift + The SCOTUS Constitutional Crisis
Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content every Monday - and all the benefits from Straight White American Jesus: bonus content on Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 800-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/In this episode, your host Andrew Seidel focuses on the surge of executive orders and their implications. He discusses the ineffectiveness and ephemeral nature of these orders, which circumvent traditional legislative processes and rule making.Highlighting Trump's focus on foreign policy and weakening the federal government, Andrew examines certain executive orders such as the re-establishment of the Faith Office and the Anti-Christian Bias Task Force. He explains the historical context, potential for grift, and the impact on religious freedom. Additionally, Seidel discusses the broader constitutional crisis, attributed mainly to a captured, partisan Supreme Court, and the anticipated clash between judicial orders and executive defiance.Throughout, Andrew emphasizes the need for action over passive consumption of bad news and provides actionable steps for resistance against these troubling developments.Subscribe to One Nation, Indivisible with Axis Mundi MediaAndrew's socials: Instagram TikTok YouTube Threads BlueskyAndrew’s books: American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious FreedomThe Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-AmericanAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy