
One Nation, Indivisible with Andrew Seidel 039: Is Marriage Equality Safe? + Megyn Kelly Defends Epstein's Assault on Underage Girls
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Nov 18, 2025 Exploring the current safety of marriage equality, the discussion emphasizes significant legal battles ahead. Indiana's Lieutenant Governor's critique of Christian nationalism is dissected, highlighting the risks it poses to pluralism. The episode also delves into Trump's controversial actions regarding pardons and settlements benefiting allies. In a tense segment, Megyn Kelly's remarks on Epstein are analyzed, sparking a moral outcry against trivializing abuse. Overall, the conversation weaves legal expertise with urgent societal concerns.
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Marriage Equality Safe For Now
- The Supreme Court rejected Kim Davis's challenge because the case was legally messy, not as a clear endorsement of marriage equality.
- Andrew Seidel warns activists not to be complacent since cleaner challenges to Obergefell will follow.
Prepare For Fresh Legal Attacks
- Don't get complacent after favorable rulings; expect opposition to return with cleaner legal vehicles.
- Prepare legal strategies and public advocacy anticipating future Supreme Court tests of marriage equality.
Christian Nationalism Misreads The Founders
- Micah Beckwith's interview recycles Christian nationalist talking points and misreads founding documents and intent.
- Seidel explains founders invoked 'laws of nature and of nature's God' as natural law, not a specifically Judeo-Christian mandate.



