

The Kyle Thiermann Show
Kyle Thiermann
Conversations with intellectual athletes and athletic intellectuals. If you're new here, try starting with #96 Albee Layer, #139 Matt Taibbi, #157 Peter Attia, #206 Chris Ryan, #216 Rick Hanson, #233 Steve Rinella, or #340 Mark Healey.
Kyle Thiermann is a journalist, copywriter, and sponsored surfer for Patagonia. His work spans from editorial (Men's Health, Surfer, Outside) to creative (Patagonia, Yeti, MUD\WTR). He has written billboards above LAX, viral commercials seen by over a hundred million people, and steered better-for-you brands to cultural relevance with breakthrough advertising ideas. Kyle is represented by DiFiore Literary Agency and is in the process of publishing his first book. thiermann.substack.com
Kyle Thiermann is a journalist, copywriter, and sponsored surfer for Patagonia. His work spans from editorial (Men's Health, Surfer, Outside) to creative (Patagonia, Yeti, MUD\WTR). He has written billboards above LAX, viral commercials seen by over a hundred million people, and steered better-for-you brands to cultural relevance with breakthrough advertising ideas. Kyle is represented by DiFiore Literary Agency and is in the process of publishing his first book. thiermann.substack.com
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Apr 17, 2025 • 1h 21min
#381 The Psychology of Giving - Kate Williams
Kate Williams is CEO of 1% for the Planet, a global organization that holds businesses accountable to donate 1% of their annual sales to environmental causes. In 2002, Yvon Chouinard, founder of Patagonia, and Craig Mathews, founder of Blue Ribbon Flies, created 1% for the Planet and started a global movement. Today, the network of 4,800+ business members have given more than $700 million in certified donations to vetted environmental organizations. Simply put, businesses commit, give and get certified. It’s low lift for them and high impact for the environmental partners. In this conversation, Kate and I explored the psychology of giving, egregious examples of greenwashing, and how we can change philanthropy norms among the super-rich in the years ahead. If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Apr 5, 2025 • 1h 42min
#380 (Plastic) Art Lasts Forever - Ethan Estees
Every plastic bag has a silver lining, and Ethan Estees has made a career out of finding it. The marine biologist and artist specializes in turning ocean trash—from plastic bottles to discarded fishing rope—into spectacular art pieces. His seascapes give a second life to the otherwise mundane material, offering an attractive introduction to the often depressing topic of ocean pollution. In this conversation, Ethan and I explored his process as an artist and spent a good chunk of time talking about the state of MPAs in California. Despite dedicating his career to environmental protection, Ethan has stuck his neck out for fishing communities over the past two years, calling out the misbegotten proposals by some environmental groups to close large swaths of California’s fisheries. It takes courage not to blindly join a tribe in 2025, but some could argue this quality is requisite to make great art.If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious.Kyle Thiermann is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Mar 28, 2025 • 1h 17min
#379 - NOAA Firings, the Checkerboard, & Saving Bighorn Sheep - Devin O'Dea (BHA)
Devin O'Dea, the Western Policy & Conservation Manager for Backcountry Hunters & Anglers, shares insights from his journey into conservation. He dives into thrilling personal stories from spearfishing adventures and highlights the journey of balancing preservation with marine management. O'Dea discusses the importance of grassroots activism, public land access rights, and the role of hunters in conservation. He emphasizes the need for community involvement and data-driven strategies to protect our oceans and wild spaces for future generations.

Mar 22, 2025 • 1h 2min
#378 Stop Motion Movies, Hunting, & the Wisdom of Lloyd Kahn - Foster Huntington
Foster Huntington is a photographer and filmmaker from Skamania, Washington. In 2011, he left his fashion job in New York City and moved into a camper van. For the next three years, he traveled around North America, driving some 120,000 miles, surfing and camping. He began the popular Tumblr account and hashtag, #Vanlife and self-published a book, “Home Is Where You Park It,” with photos from his time on the road. He now lives in a treehouse in the Columbia River Gorge and works on short films and photo projects in his studio. Follow Foster on his Substack.If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious.Kyle Thiermann is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Mar 14, 2025 • 1h 19min
#377 From Open Mics to 500M+ Views Online. How Brent Pella Did it.
I first saw Brent Pella perform standup at MUD\WTR: Gather for an LA fires benefit show. The dude set the place on fi—. Though his comedic talents span the range of current events across the political spectrum—from Rogan impersonations to Kamala’s impressive assortment of accents (depending on where she was campaigning)—he hit the cultural version of a nuclear reactor when he started writing jokes about new age spirituality, conspiracy theories, and human optimization. His videos have gained 500M+ views online and he was recently named a "Creator to Watch" by the New York Comedy Festival. His debut comedy special, “Conscious Bro” is live on YouTube now. In this conversation we dove into Brent’s past. He told the story of his first open mic, rapping at UC Santa Barbara, and why, despite the devil on his shoulder, he feels politically homeless. If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Mar 7, 2025 • 1h 51min
#376 Scheduling Sex & Saving Marriages - Amy Baldwin
Amy Baldwin (@amyshamelesssex) is a Somatic Sex and Relationship Coach (trained in the Somatica® Method), Certified Sex Educator, and host of the Shameless Sex podcast. Amy has a passion for promoting shame-free, pleasure-focused sexuality education while emphasizing the deep emotional and energetic forces behind great sex and intimate connection, offering everything from how-to workshops to erotic empowerment retreats. This was Amy’s fifth or sixth time on the show, so if you’re not sick of us yammering, feel free to scroll through the archives to keep the party going.If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Feb 28, 2025 • 1h 8min
#375 Ghost Writing with Goggins - Adam Skolnick
Adam Skolnick (@adamskolnick) is an award-winning independent journalist and author covering adventure sports, environmental issues, travel and human rights for The New York Times, Outside, Playboy and Lonely Planet. He is the author of One Breath: Freediving, Death and the Quest to Shatter Human Limits, the ghost writer and narrator of David Goggins’ smash hit memoir and audiobook Can’t Hurt Me: Master Your Mind and Defy the Odds, and he is a co-host on the Rich Roll Podcast. Adam and I do ocean swims together. Sometimes I let him win.If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Feb 23, 2025 • 1h 37min
#374 Strong Women, Dead Bodies, Wild Places - Nina Simon
Nina Simon has worn many hats in her career: slam poet, NASA engineer, game designer, and museum director at the Santa Cruz Museum of Art and History. If that didn’t make her busy enough, she went ahead and wrote two nonfiction books: The Participatory Museum and The Art of Relevance. In 2020, Nina’s mom was diagnosed with advanced cancer, so Nina quit her job to help care for her. The two had always enjoyed reading mysteries, so they started imagining one that featured characters a bit like them—hardworking California women trying to balance professional ambition and motherhood. She wrote, her mom read, and the creative process helped them heal and grow closer. Today, Nina’s mom is doing well, and Mother-Daughter Murder Night is a New York Times Bestseller. (Talk about turning lemons into lemonade.) If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Feb 14, 2025 • 1h 27min
#373 How to Get Your Film Funded, B Plot, & Truth As Subtraction - Soraya Simi
Soraya Simi is the director of the new documentary, ROW OF LIFE, which follows renowned Paralympian and Marine Veteran Angela Madsen on her solo row across the Pacific Ocean. The film quite simply rocks, if I do say so myself. It's on a nationwide tour now; see dates here. In this podcast, I grilled Soraya about the art and craft of documentary filmmaking. How to get funding with a sizzle, A plot and B plot, truth as subtraction, and much more. Soraya is a damn good filmmaker. If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my YouTube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious.Kyle Thiermann is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Feb 7, 2025 • 1h 32min
#372 Biggest Jaws Ever? - Wilem Banks
In 2017, Wilem Banks (@Wilembanks) made headlines when he suffered a horrific fall at Mavericks and won WSL’s Wipeout of the Year (the most embarrassing award in surfing). The award seemed to put a chip on Wilem’s shoulder, and since then, he’s set out to prove that he can do more than paddle into gigantic waves—he can make them, too! This year, the humble warrior took his first trip to Jaws on Maui and bagged what some say was the biggest wave ever completed at the spot. In this episode, Wilem recounts the story in detail. Beyond the ocean, he is a hunter, carpenter, and co-owner of Banks&Banks Saunas, a custom-built sauna service he runs with his brother.If you dig this podcast, will you please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests on the show. I read them all. You can watch this podcast on my Youtube channel and join my newsletter on Substack. It’s glorious.Kyle Thiermann is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe