

GTM Live
Passetto
GTM Live is a new evolution of Revenue Vitals by Chris Walker, now hosted by Carolyn Dilks & Trevor Gibson, Co-Founders of Passetto — a part tech, part advisory GTM agency for high-performing B2B SaaS companies.
This weekly live show is built for CEOs, CFOs & Revenue Leaders who know the current way GTM is executed & measured is broken, and are ready for something better.
We cut through the noise & ditch outdated playbooks. No fluff. No vanity metrics. Just honest, modern conversations about how to track & optimize GTM for what actually matters: unit economics, efficiency & long-term growth.
This weekly live show is built for CEOs, CFOs & Revenue Leaders who know the current way GTM is executed & measured is broken, and are ready for something better.
We cut through the noise & ditch outdated playbooks. No fluff. No vanity metrics. Just honest, modern conversations about how to track & optimize GTM for what actually matters: unit economics, efficiency & long-term growth.
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Jan 14, 2022 • 1h 5min
236 - MUST LISTEN: Strategies to Win in 2022 | Marketing Ops Confessions
The days of marketers shoveling as many leads as possible to sales are long gone. The old rules that applied before social media, communities, and third-party content distribution platforms were mature no longer apply. You can't expect a piece of software to be able to give you an accurate map of the buyer journey anymore, because the buyer's journey is happening in places that be tracked by software. But shifting from lead gen to demand gen comes with a lot of questions—What is the strategy behind the tactics? How do you get started implementing change? How long to results? How do you measure success? These are all questions that Chris covers in this discussion on how to win with demand gen in 2022.

Jan 12, 2022 • 1h 10min
235 - 2021 Recap & 2022 Predictions | Demand Gen Live S2 x64
Imagine knowing the biggest trends in the industry before they happened. Imagine the advantage you would have over the competition. Every year we make predictions on what the biggest changes in B2B marketing will be and we've got a pretty good track record. But before we do that, we're going back to January 2021 to see which of last year's predictions came true.PLUS: If you tuned in last week, we told you we were going to read 20 self-reported attribution results and the corresponding software attribution. If you're looking for proof that dark social produces results, and have been asking how to measure it, here it is.

Jan 9, 2022 • 53min
234 - Creating vs. Capturing Demand and The Best Way To Do Both | Lifelong Customer Podcast
Creating demand is not sharing a link to your ebook on LinkedIn. Capturing demand is not collecting an email after teasing a prospect just enough to get them to fork it over. Demand creation is showing up every day to provide valuable content to your industry with no strings attached. Your goal is to create so much demand for your product that the prospect comes to you and gives you their contact info with the expectation that you will call them. Unfortunately, most companies opt to skip the demand creation and try to go straight to the capture, which leads to several problems. In this episode, Chris discusses the relationship between demand creation and capture and the best way to utilize both.

Jan 7, 2022 • 53min
233 - The 2022 State of Demand Gen | Gaetano DiNardi
For the past three years, Chris and Gaetano have gotten together to discuss the current state of demand generation. It's back for 2022 and in this episode, they are weighing in on the strategies and tactics to help your marketing skyrocket and which ones have a better chance of imploding. Whether you're a fast-paced start-up or an established enterprise brand, this is an episode you don't want to miss.

Jan 5, 2022 • 1h 27min
232 - The 5 Tenets to Revamp Your Go-To-Market Strategy in 2022 | Demand Gen Live S2 x63
Tis the season for resolutions. And if you're looking to get that promotion or seriously level up your marketing in 2022, this episode is a must-listen. We're talking about the 5 tenets (or rules, or pillars, or whatever you want to call it) that every B2B marketing team needs to follow to be successful this year. These are undeniable truths. Listen, implement, and crush your 2022 marketing resolutions.Speaking of resolutions, we made our own this year and that was to bring you a new podcast hosted by the entire Refine Labs Team. It's called The Marketing Movement and we’ll share our philosophy on topics ranging from content and creative to growth marketing and leadership—helping you accelerate your growth as a B2B marketer and inspiring you to start your movement. The first 3 episodes are now available on Apple and Spotify!Join us for the first Demand Gen Expert Series of 2022 as we welcome back DGL OG, Gaetano DiNardi to do our yearly State of Demand Gen episode. We'll be recapping what took place in the B2B marketing space in 2021 and make bold predictions for the year to come. Register here and join us Thursday, Jan 6 at 12 PM EST!

Jan 2, 2022 • 22min
231 - 20 Questions with Chris Walker
If you had a magic wand that could answer any marketing question you have right now, what would you ask? That's what we asked on the Refine Labs LinkedIn page last week. And while we don't have a magic wand, we do get access to a whole lot of B2B marketing insights in the work that we do. So, in this episode, we're setting out to answer LinkedIn's toughest marketing questions, asked directly from marketers like you.

Dec 29, 2021 • 56min
230 - Why (and How) Marketing Should Take Ownership of the Buyer Journey | Talend Marketing Chats
The major difference in between B2B and B2C marketing is that in B2C marketing owns the buyer journey. There is no sales team to close deals and for that reason, marketing has to create content that gets the buyer from initial view to check out. As a B2B marketer, it's time to start thinking more like B2C. When you do, you will start shifting your entire strategy. You'll no longer measure your efforts on the volume of leads you can generate for sales, but the quality and ease that sales have in closing them. In this episode, Chris talks about the future of B2B marketing and how it parallels what's been happening in B2C forever.

Dec 26, 2021 • 1h 29min
229 - Starting a Marketing Movement | The Refine Labs Origin Story
Refine Labs is widely known throughout the B2B SaaS space as being an innovator. At this point, most people know our views on current marketing "best practices". What people don't know (and what we get asked often) is about the origins of Refine Labs. How were the strategies we implement first discovered? How are we consistently attracting top talent? How did we go about building one of the best company cultures out there (if we don't say so ourselves)? In this episode, Megan sits down with Chris to talk about all of these things and more in the first-ever episode dedicated to answering questions about the origins of Refine Labs.

Dec 24, 2021 • 22min
228 - How to Make Your Marketing Strategy Reflect Customer Wants | Growth Trends Interview Series
Investing in a marketing strategy that reflects what customers actually want from your marketing team is playing the long game. Too many marketing teams are incentivized to play the short game by quickly capturing contact information from people who aren't ready to buy. Instead, you need to put a plan in place to incentivize your team to help you build a long-term demand engine, willingly. In this episode, Chris talks about marketing strategy, how he built a culture that rewards employees for doing demand gen, and the future of B2B marketing.

Dec 22, 2021 • 1h 8min
227 - LinkedIn Not Working? Time For a Strategy Shift | Demand Gen Live S2 x62
If you’re looking at your year-end ad effectiveness right now and coming to the conclusion that LinkedIn isn’t right for you, consider this. There are two reasons why it doesn't work. 1) You are witnessing the attribution mirage. If you are seeing LinkedIn engagement grow, people are sharing, commenting, showing up to events, etc. LinkedIn is working. The problem isn't the platform, it's that attribution software doesn't track its effectiveness unless someone clicks a link to come to your homepage from the feed (which is a losing strategy). The second reason is that it doesn't work is the strategy is all wrong. In this episode, Chris talks about how to run proper demand gen through LinkedIn and drive real results.