A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity Disorder

Send us a textDrew & Garden System have an important conversation with Dr. Jamie+ Marich about her upcoming memoir, You Lied to Me About God. You can pre-order a copy now anywhere books are sold! They discuss the impact of religious trauma and spiritual abuse and how it can contribute to dissociation. They each share personal stories about their journeys of coming out as people with dissociative systems and being part of the LGBTQIA+ community. Also discussed is the impact of purity culture and sexual abuse. Please take care of your selves while listening!Dr. Jamie Marich (she/they/we) is the author of the popular Dissociation Made Simple: A Stigma-Free Guide to Embracing Your Dissociative Mind and Navigating Life (2023), now available as both a book and a clinical flipchart. She is the author of over 10 other books and manuals in the field of trauma, addiction recovery, and the expressive arts. They are an EMDR Therapy trainer and founder of The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest training organizations in North America that works to create an inclusive space for plural trainees and others with dissociative responses. In 2019, the EMDR International Association awarded Jamie with their Advocacy Award for her work in destigmatizing dissociative disorders and other mental health concerns. Personally, Jamie+ is known as the Unicorn System and is a long-time presenter at Healing Together. In October of 2024, her first full memoir comes out called You Lied to Me About God, focusing on her experiences with spiritual abuse and religious trauma. They are based in Akron, Ohio on Erie Nation Land.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community, Hearts Multiplied, for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 2015 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

Join Drew and the Garden System as they share their journey of nurturing trust among their multiple selves. They discuss the dynamics of leadership within their dissociative system and the fascinating origins of their fictive identities inspired by a beloved book series. The hosts unravel the complexities of internal cooperation and safety planning, particularly emphasizing the needs of their littles. Their personal stories highlight the significance of compassionate communication and creative strategies for fostering healing and collaboration.

Send us a textDrew & Garden System get real with Annie Goldsmith, sharing personal stories and uncovering the root causes of eating disorder behaviors and how they might show up in those living with dissociative identity disorder.Annie Goldsmith, RD, LDN holds an undergraduate degree from the University of Rochester in Brain and Cognitive Sciences and attended Winthrop University for her graduate coursework in human nutrition. Her educational and professional trajectory has always been guided by a strong curiosity about the ways our biology and psychology interact to inform our human experience. Annie worked in neuroscience research labs at New York University and Davidson College before pursuing a career in nutrition. She has experience treating eating disorders at the PHP, IOP, and outpatient levels of care. She opened her outpatient group practice, Second Breakfast Nutrition, in 2015.Annie’s practice is rooted in a foundational belief in the inherent worthiness of all bodies. She centers weight inclusive, social justice oriented, and trauma informed frameworks in her approach to eating disorder care and recovery. Annie became interested in somatically and polyvagal-informed approaches to nutrition therapy in 2018 when she began training with the Embodied Recovery Institute, where she now provides training as part of the faculty. Annie has presented on the intersection of eating disorders and dissociation at the ISSTD World Conference, as well as the Healing Together conference. Annie is passionate about working with clients from a “bottom up” approach, centering and supporting the wisdom of the body and its innate capacity for healing.You can visit Annie's website here at Second Breakfast Nutrition.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 2015 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Thank you to our bronze sponsor, Alix Amar LCSW, who offers weekly Creative Art classes including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. For more information check out her website at alixamar.com Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

Send us a textDrew & Garden System have a lively discussion with Ocean about the use of Internal Family Systems, particularly with Dissociative Identity Disorder. Come learn all about the special considerations clinicians need to keep in mind and implement when they choose to use IFS as an intervention with their DID clients.Ocean is a highly educated and Certified Internal Family Systems (IFS) licensed therapist, having completed all three levels of IFS training. With over thirty years of experience in the mental health field, she began her career in a psychiatric trauma and inpatient unit. Ocean specializes in working with individuals who have Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD), Dissociative Disorders (DD), and eating disorders.As a program assistant in IFS Level One training, she has presented on using IFS with individuals with dissociative disorders during break-out sessions. Her diverse academic background includes degrees in Educational Leadership and Clinical Teaching in Special Education, which, combined with her compassion, enable her to share valuable experience and knowledge with other therapists in the field of treating Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) clients using the IFS model. Ocean firmly believes in the IFS principle that all parts are welcome.Her integrative approach blends mind-body techniques and meditation with IFS, inspiring her journey to become a yoga teacher. She strives to foster a deeper connection with parts work while incorporating holistic practices within IFS. Currently, she is furthering her studies in Ayurveda. In her spare time, Ocean enjoys connecting with nature, swimming, living the van life, spending quality time with her human and furry family members, and meditating by the ocean.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 20 15 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

Send us a textDrew & Garden System interview Katie Keech, MFT on the intersections of neurodivergence with DID, autism, and ADHD.Katie Keech, MFT, whose pronouns are They/Them, has over twenty years of professional experience in both community mental health and private practice. They have managed emerging adult community mental health programs and forensic programs.In the late 1990’s they were diagnosed with DDNOS then later DID. After much clinical and personal work, they identify as part of a plural system. In private practice they currently specialize in severe dissociative disorders, plurality and complex PTSD as well as autism and adhd from a neurodiversity affirmative framework.Katie is also the co founder of The Refractory, a recently started think tank for clinicians with lived experience DID/OSDD/Plurality, which aims to transform the mental health landscape.Katie is also a Fully Professed Member of The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, Inc., a 45-year-old global order of queer nuns.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our community for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 20 15 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

Send us a textDrew & Garden System talk about listening (ironic we know!) instead of just trying to talk to parts. Remember that it’s not just “talking” you’re listening for, because not all parts communicate with words or by talking. Sometimes communication is thoughts we notice or pictures we see internally. Being quiet can feel uncomfortable because one often becomes aware of memories and feelings that parts were keeping tucked away. Validating and accepting parts’ feelings and letting your selves express emotions is discussed. Also discussed is parts that still may be stuck in trauma time. We give several personal examples of how to get these parts up to speed on daily life and the present. We also touch on navigating parts in a system having different partner preferences, different and opposing sexual orientations, and different gender identities.  Having a system of parts becomes one giant balancing act when you start listening and incorporating everyone’s needs, wants and wishes.Visit acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list and to find out all about our private, paid community called Hearts Multiplied for people with dissociative disorders, their supporters, and therapists treating DID!We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 2015 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Thank you to our bronze sponsor, Alix Amar LCSW, who offers weekly Creative Art classes including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. For more information check out her website at alixamar.com, or her Facebook page "Dissociative Creative Explorations". Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

Send us a textDrew & Garden System have a playful conversation about the benefits of sand tray therapy for those living with dissociative disorders with Dr. Elisa Niles Thorne (Dr, E). Topics include how sand tray can enhance internal communication between dissociative selves, how it can help nonverbal selves communicate, and how it can be used to process complex experiences. Whether you are a therapist or a client living with a dissociative disorder, you can learn so much from Dr. E's knowledge about the sand tray.Visit acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list.Thank you to our Gold Plus Sponsor: The Institute for Creative MindfulnessDr. E is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor in the State of Florida. She is a Board Certified Counselor and a qualified supervisor for mental health interns and marriage and family therapist interns. Dr. E is a recipient of the National Board of Certified Counselor- Minority Fellowship Program (2016). She completed her education at the University of the Virgin Islands 2002, 2005 and Argosy University in 2009. She completed her Ph.D. in Counselor Education and Supervision at Walden University. Her dissertation examined the Impact of Trauma on Re-occurring Homelessness in the U. S. Virgin Islands.Her Specializations include: Christian Counseling; Clinical Supervision; Dissociative Disorders; Play Therapy; Trauma/Complex Trauma; and Women IssuesShe has presented at local, state, and national conferences. She is now a published contributing author in the textbook: Fazio-Griffith, L. J., & Marino, R. (Eds.). (2021). Techniques and Interventions for Play Therapy and Clinical Supervision. IGI Global. http://doi:10.4018/978-1-7998-4628-4 Dr. E currently works as an associate professor at Hodges University in Fort Myers, Florida. She is the Founder and Owner of SoundMind Counseling and Consulting Services, LLC.Dr. E hails from the Caribbean Island of St. Thomas, United States Virgin Islands, and has also lived in Jamaica and Antigua.Sand Tray Training Resources:Florida Sandplay Therapy AssociationSouthern Sandtray InstituteFree Online Sand Tray by Dr. Karen FriedFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

Send us a textDrew & Garden System welcome Alicia Leigh Hann to discuss the healing power of dance & movement when one is a multiple!Alicia is a dance educator, performer, and choreographer based out of Columbus Ohio. She fell in love with dance because of its endless possibilities for creative physical expression. Movement has been an integral part of her personal recovery from a trauma induced eating disorder. Alicia has taught dance technique and facilitated movement experiences in therapeutic, classroom and community settings, as well as performed and set work nationally. She aims to foster an appreciation of dance as a physical, emotional, intellectual, and spiritual pursuit.  Alicia serves as the director of operations for the Institute for Creative Mindfulness where she gets to combine her administrative skills with her passion for helping people find healing through self-expression with programs like Dancing Mindfulness and mental health advocacy. She takes pride in being the supportive role which allows ICM’s faculty of mental health clinicians to create and train curriculum to providers, leading to therapeutic healing for their clients. Please visit our website at acoupleofmultiples.com to join our mailing list and learn all about our private, paid community called Hearts Multiplied for people with dissociative disorders, their supporters, and mental health professionals treating DID.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 20 15 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

Send us a textDrew & Garden System kick off Season 2 by sharing all the first signs of internal communication that happened within their systems. Listen to their comical, personal stories of how their selves made themselves known. This episode includes topics of suicidal ideation, self-harm, and eating disorders.Visit acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list and to find out all about our private, paid community called Hearts Multiplied for people with dissociative disorders, their supporters, and therapists treating DID!We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 20 15 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!

Send us a textIn this legendary season one finale episode, Drew & Garden System discuss boundaries with friends, family, and within the therapeutic relationship.  They talk about how they created a chosen community of friends and family and what is like to unmask through disclosure, including the thought processes around deciding if and when to disclose a diagnosis of Dissociative Identity Disorder.References:Drew & Garden System discussed the use of therapeutic touch in therapy with clients that have a history of sexual trauma and a diagnosis of Dissociative Identity Disorder. Here is an article discussed: https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/touch-in-therapy-helpful-or-harmful-one-therapists-perspective-0629175The short film, Petals of a Rose is a great way to teach friends and family about DID. You can watch the 15 minute film here:  https://www.dylancrumpler.com/petals-of-a-roseFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!