

Getting Smart Podcast
Getting Smart
This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership.
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May 21, 2025 • 30min
What is Human Work in the Age of Smart Machines? | Jamie Merisotis
Join Jamie Merisotis, CEO of the Lumina Foundation, as he explores the future of work amidst the rise of AI. He discusses the need for new educational goals beyond traditional degrees, focusing on valuable credentials that meet workforce demands. Jamie emphasizes the importance of empathy and human skills in an increasingly automated world, and shares Lumina's ambitious vision for 75% of the U.S. workforce to have meaningful credentials by 2040. His insights on entrepreneurship and the redesign of education are key takeaways for anyone interested in the changing landscape of work.

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May 14, 2025 • 34min
Is Deeper Learning the Answer Uncertainty in the Age of AI? | Michael Fullan
Michael Fullan, an acclaimed advocate for deeper learning and educational reform, joins the discussion with insights on navigating AI's impact on education. He highlights 'systemness' as vital for transformative change, urging a shift from isolated initiatives. The conversation dives into the successes in Anaheim, the need for bottom-up educational reform, and the importance of democratizing power in learning. Fullan warns against unchecked AI integration, emphasizing the necessity for a strong cultural foundation and the 'spirit work' that fosters collaboration in schools.

May 9, 2025 • 53min
Catching Up! | Curation, Vibe Coding and New Priorities for Education
Dive into a vibrant discussion on vibe coding and curiosity as cornerstones of modern education. Explore the shifting landscape of computer science in the AI era, and how experience-based learning is becoming essential. From 'Italian brain rot' to the impact of AI on storytelling, the topics are thought-provoking. The importance of curation, both digital and physical, and the challenges in expanding Career and Technical Education programs in rural areas are also highlighted. Join the hosts for fresh insights on fostering creativity and collaboration in learning.

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May 7, 2025 • 33min
What Does Rethinking Assessment Look Like? | One Stone
In a thought-provoking discussion, Celeste Bolin, Executive Director of One Stone, shares how the unique high school prioritizes student agency and real-world skills. Students Raya Naymik, a conscious living advocate, and Sophie Gunther, a passionate athlete, delve into the school's 'fail forward' mindset that encourages growth through setbacks. They explore the balance of academics and athletics, highlighting the transformative role of teachers as coaches and the importance of community support in fostering resilience and authentic learning experiences.

May 2, 2025 • 59min
Getting Smart and Carlos Moreno: Live from SXSW
Carlos Moreno, co-director of Big Picture Learning and founder of Leadership Journeys, discusses the transformative power of love, care, and vulnerability in education. He shares heartfelt stories on the importance of emotional intelligence and mentorship, advocating for a human-centered approach in leadership. The conversation highlights building trust and the significance of authentic relationships between educators and students. Moreno emphasizes the need for community-focused leadership to redefine success and create supportive learning environments.

Apr 30, 2025 • 25min
What are The Key Competencies of a Modern Day Leader? | Laura Hilger, Carmen Coleman and Estrada
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Rebecca Midles delves into the essential competencies of modern-day leadership with Laura Hilger, Senior Director of Teaching and Learning at KnowledgeWorks. Joined by Carmen Coleman and Estrada, the conversation explores the development and impact of the Lead for Learners Network and the Portrait of a Leader. These initiatives aim to guide educational leaders towards sustainable change through personalized, competency-based learning. Discover how collaborative processes and strategic leadership development can drive transformation in educational systems, ensuring leaders are equipped to foster equitable, learner-centered environments. Tune in to learn about upcoming opportunities and insights into building robust leadership pipelines. Outline (00:00) Introduction to the Getting Smart Podcast (02:36) Overview of the Lead for Learners Network (04:46) Development of the Portrait of a Leader (07:49) Collaborative Process Behind the Portrait (10:58) Impact and Implementation in Local Contexts (14:23) Sustainable Change and Leadership Development (20:37) Reflective Practice and Professional Learning (22:07) Upcoming Events and Opportunities Links Watch the full video here Read the full blog here Laura Hilger LinkedIn KnowledgeWorks Laura Hilger X KnowledgeWorks Youtube Lead for Learners Portrait of a Leader Aurora Institute

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Apr 25, 2025 • 49min
Catching Up! | Shifting Enrollment, Dead Malls, and Community Hubs
Mason and Nate discuss the innovative transformation of dead malls into community hubs, highlighting the importance of connection in a tech-driven world. They explore the evolving role of media literacy amid information overload and the implications of a new executive order on AI in education. The decline of public school enrollment sparks a conversation about repurposing school facilities. They also share cultural insights from Ireland, emphasizing the significance of poetry and music in fostering community. Challenges in early education are addressed with a call for collaborative solutions.

Apr 23, 2025 • 34min
Who needs college anymore? | Kathleen DeLaski
Kathleen DeLaski, author of 'Who Needs College Anymore?', dives into the shifting landscape of higher education. She challenges the necessity of a traditional college degree, advocating for alternatives like apprenticeships and dual enrollment. DeLaski highlights the impact of the Great Recession and AI on educational values and job readiness. The conversation explores how practical experience is becoming the key to career advancement, suggesting that four-year degrees may not be the only path to success in today's world.

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Apr 18, 2025 • 37min
How Should we Confront Complexity in Uncertain Times?
Will Richardson, co-founder of The Big Questions Institute, dives into the evolving role of education amidst global challenges. He emphasizes the urgent need to repair human and ecological relationships. Discussion includes preparing students emotionally and spiritually for uncertainty and fostering a mindset of curiosity. Richardson critiques traditional education models, advocating for a shift towards community engagement and collective responsibility. This conversation invites educators to reimagine learning as a means of resilience and hope in chaotic times.

Apr 16, 2025 • 32min
How Important is Research and Development for Education? | Sara Schapiro
Sara Schapiro, the Director of the Alliance for Learning Innovation, dives into the need for increased research and development in education. She discusses the stark underfunding compared to healthcare and the role of federal and state support in fostering innovation. Schapiro highlights the importance of interoperable data systems and evidence-based practices. With insights on venture capital's impact on EdTech, she urges collaboration among educators, policymakers, and parents to advocate for stronger R&D, ensuring every student thrives in a rapidly evolving educational landscape.