Getting Smart Podcast
Getting Smart
This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership.
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Oct 3, 2025 • 50min
Catching Up: Ambient AI, Alpha School, and The Educator of the Future
Dive into the future of education as two hosts discuss revolutionary concepts like Alpha School’s innovative two-hour AI-driven learning. Discover the nuanced role of ambient AI in everyday life and its implications for assessment. They explore how relational intelligence can enrich learning experiences and ponder the balance between structured education and real-world exploration. With insights on personalized education and gamification, this conversation offers a captivating glimpse into the evolving landscape of teaching and learning.
Oct 1, 2025 • 37min
How Can We Transform Education Through Competency-Based Learning and Collaboration? | FullScale
Join education leaders Virgel Hammonds and Beth Rabbitt as they explore the transformative potential of competency-based learning. Hammonds, co-leader at Full Scale, focuses on aligning educational practices for systemic change, while Rabbitt champions personalized learning with a goal to scale impact. They discuss the benefits of a Co-CEO model for distributing leadership and fostering collaboration. Don't miss their insights on navigating disagreements through 'rumbles' and their ambitious vision for the upcoming Full Scale Symposium!
Sep 26, 2025 • 37min
How Can Domestic Exchange Programs Bridge Divides and Foster Empathy? | David McCullough III
David McCullough III, co-founder and CEO of the American Exchange Project, dives into the transformative impact of domestic high school exchange programs. He shares how his 7,100-mile road trip reshaped his perspective and fueled his passion for empathy. McCullough discusses the program's innovative structure, which combines cultural immersion and community service, aiming to connect over 1,500 students from diverse backgrounds. He emphasizes overcoming fear with curiosity and envisions a future where travel fosters civic cohesion across America.
Sep 24, 2025 • 30min
How Can Cross-State Collaboration and Real-World Learning Transform Education? | Bill Nicely
Dr. Bill Nicely, Educator in Residence at the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation, shares insights into transforming education through cross-state collaboration in Kansas City. He discusses how the pandemic catalyzed partnerships among diverse districts to promote market value assets for all students. Bill highlights the critical role of business collaborations and the importance of focusing on quality before scaling initiatives. Tune in for a glimpse into the future of profession-based learning and the impact of AI on education.
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Sep 17, 2025 • 32min
How Can AI Reshape and Reshuffle The Creation of Value? | Sangeet Paul Choudary
In this enlightening discussion, Sangeet Paul Choudary, author of Reshuffle and platform strategist, delves into the reshaping of markets through AI. He highlights how curiosity, curation, and judgment are becoming more valuable as knowledge becomes commoditized. The conversation contrasts using AI merely as a tool versus leveraging it as an engine to redesign business models and learning systems, illustrated with examples like Figma and TikTok. Sangeet also examines AI's unique role in coordinating fragmented systems, offering a roadmap for navigating the future.
Sep 10, 2025 • 46min
How Can AI and Media Literacy Revolutionize Personalized Learning? | Hayley Spira-Bauer
Hayley Spira-Bauer, Chief Academic Officer at Fullmind and host of Learning Can't Wait, discusses how AI can ease teacher workloads and enrich student engagement. The conversation emphasizes the vital role of media literacy in today's digital age, helping students critically assess information. Spira-Bauer also shares insights on fostering personalized learning and the importance of human connections in education. Moreover, she explores the transition to self-directed learning, encouraging competencies that prepare students for real-world challenges.
Sep 5, 2025 • 46min
Catching Up! | School Start Dates, Teacher Shortages, and Identity in Education
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia explore key topics shaping education today, from the varying start dates of schools across the U.S. to the global progress on Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). They dive into data on teacher shortages, discussing challenges with retention and exploring innovative solutions like rethinking educator models. The conversation also touches on the neuroscience of adolescent identity formation, emphasizing the importance of creating opportunities for healthy risk-taking and personal growth in schools. Tune in to hear insights on how schools can address current challenges while fostering connection, curiosity, and purpose among learners. Outline (00:00) Introduction and Agenda (04:02) Global Goals and School Meals Progress (07:40) Public School Perception Survey Results (12:48) Teacher Shortage Data and Analysis (17:36) Rethinking Teacher Models (27:28) Identity Formation and Adolescent Development (37:23) Human Expression and Connection (42:47) What's That Song? Links Watch the full video here Read the full blog here When Do Kids Go Back to School? Exclusive Poll: As Support for Schools Plummets, Americans Resist Closing Education Department Reading for Fun: Student Experiences How an Indiana District Puts a Premium on Teacher Autonomy Overview of Teacher Shortages How Can We Keep Teachers Teaching? State of the American Teacher Survey The Teaching Model That's Keeping Educators in Schools The Great Simplification Podcast: Taylor Guthrie Sand Talk: Indigenous Thinking in a World That's Lost Its Way Mile-Long Table in Denver Seats Thousands of Strangers to Eat and Celebrate Community Introducing Kestrel and Other Songs
Sep 3, 2025 • 29min
How is Michigan Leading State-Wide Transformation and Innovation? | Dr. Dave Richards
Dr. Dave Richards, Executive Director of the Future Learning Council and former Michigan superintendent, discusses Michigan's innovative educational transformation. He highlights the shift to personalized, competency-based learning and the collaboration among school districts to enhance student outcomes. Richards shares insights on micro-schools and their role in education reform, as well as the importance of professional development for educators. The conversation emphasizes community empowerment and the future of learning in providing equitable opportunities for all students.
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Aug 27, 2025 • 39min
How Are Fab Labs Transforming Education and Career Pathways? | Michael Stone & Kristen Burrus
Michael Stone, VP of Innovative Learning at Public Education Foundation, and Kristen Burrus, a passionate program manager at the first K-14 digital fabrication center, dive into transformative education through fab labs. They discuss Chattanooga's journey in project-based learning and the Volkswagen eLab Network. With a focus on bridging education and workforce readiness, they explore credentialing and essential skills, showcasing how innovative technologies like the Fabfolio app elevate student engagement and real-world problem-solving.
Aug 21, 2025 • 34min
How Do Words, Place, and Creativity Shape Who We Become? | Mason Pashia
Explore the fascinating intersection of poetry, art, and identity on this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast featuring Mason Pashia. Mason discusses his debut book, Kestrel and Other Songs, and dives deep into the creative process, the power of words, and the ways poetry invites us to see the world differently. From his inspirations like Robert Macfarlane to the influence of place and personal experiences, Mason shares insights that connect creativity with education, identity, and community. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that celebrates storytelling, imagination, and the transformative role of art in shaping how we view and engage with the world. Get your copy now! Outline (00:00) Introduction to Kestrel (02:32) The Art of Poetry (12:00) Writing from a Place (15:20) Art and Education (21:45) Futures Thinking and Abundance (25:44) Closing Thoughts and Reflections Links Watch the full video here Read the full blog here Into Wind Buy Kestrel Landmarks by Robert Macfarlane


