Getting Smart Podcast

How Can We Transform Education Through Competency-Based Learning and Collaboration? | FullScale

Oct 1, 2025
Join education leaders Virgel Hammonds and Beth Rabbitt as they explore the transformative potential of competency-based learning. Hammonds, co-leader at Full Scale, focuses on aligning educational practices for systemic change, while Rabbitt champions personalized learning with a goal to scale impact. They discuss the benefits of a Co-CEO model for distributing leadership and fostering collaboration. Don't miss their insights on navigating disagreements through 'rumbles' and their ambitious vision for the upcoming Full Scale Symposium!
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ANECDOTE

Leaders' Grounded Hobbies

  • Virgel loves mowing lawns with decorative lines as a way to see immediate results and relax.
  • Beth is rewilding her lawn with clover and volunteers as a ski patroller, showing different personal rhythms.
ANECDOTE

From Ski Patrolling To Leadership

  • Beth began her career as a ski patroller and keeps wilderness medicine skills current as a volunteer.
  • She recently renewed her wilderness first responder certificate and plans to return to ski patrolling.
INSIGHT

Merger Fueled By Scale Needs

  • Beth saw the merger as necessary because practice change alone wasn't enough to scale competency-based learning.
  • She believed combining practice, policy, people, and progress would better change system conditions.
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